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Room 237

Discussion in 'The Shining (1980)' started by Mr. Crandall, Feb 28, 2014.

  1. Mr. Crandall

    Mr. Crandall Member

    Did anyone here see the doc room 237? I watched it last night. It's a view into some of the more batshit crazy interpretations of Kubrick's take on the shining. Fake moon landing confessions, holocaust analogies, and other themes are explored. It made me realize what an SOB Kubrick is based on some key images and placements in the movie that seem to be directed specifically at King. Specifically, the semi that has crushed the red volkswagon (the color of the protagonist's car in the book) as seen by the yellow VW (the color of the protagonist's car in the movie) whilst driving up the snowy road. Apparently this was Kubrick marking his territory or some such. An interesting movie, though. People can pick on the most minute details and run with them.
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  2. Dana Jean

    Dana Jean Dirty Pirate Hooker Moderator

    This has been talked about in the Documentary thread. I thought it was pretty interesting.
  3. Autumnlyn

    Autumnlyn BOOYA!

    I liked it. Didn't agree with everything going on in there...but really enjoyed them pointing out details of the movie that I didn't register. Like the art on the walls, certain inconsistencies (ie: chair in one shot, missing in the next) stuff like that.
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  4. Sundrop

    Sundrop Sunny the Great & Wonderful

    I did not like it, nor do I think there is much validity to the theories presented in the documentary. They took 9 different people, all with widely differing perspectives, and made the film from those interviews. Not once, did I hear or see a clip of Kubrick or his family or staff saying.....oh yes, this is what we wanted to convey. I also did not like the clip they used of SK as Jordy Verrill when they were saying that the changes drove him crazy.....I thought the whole thing was done in extremely poor taste.
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  5. doowopgirl

    doowopgirl very avid fan

    I have to wholeheartedly agree with you. It just felt that it was reaching WAAY to hard for obscure references and meanings. Complete twaddle.
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  6. luciusfunk

    luciusfunk Well-Known Member

    I loved it. Don't know what the lady talking about the minotaur was on, though.
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  7. OKKingFan

    OKKingFan Well-Known Member

    I'm with most of you. Some of it was kind of interesting, but most of it seemed like people with way too much time on their hands.
    At one point, I can't remember who was talking but he or she was pointing out these coincidences, and I thought 'so what? what's your point?'
    I did re-watch the movie after watching the documentary, but you almost don't need to because the documentary goes into such detail about everything.
    Still a creepy movie, and Kubrick was a piece of work for sure, but those people on Room 237 need to get a life.
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  8. blunthead

    blunthead Well-Known Member

    Ineffable twaddle, as Dr Watson would say to Holmes. =D
  9. 80sFan

    80sFan Just one more chapter...

    I'm a huge fan of Kubrick's "the Shining" even though it was lacking a couple of my favorite scenes from the book, but I recently watched the "237" doc and felt it was a waste of time.
  10. Mr. Cranky

    Mr. Cranky B.O. Man

    I've never seen- or don't think I have- Room 237, I'll have to check it out. Is that the documentary when they're talking about a scene in The Shining where Jack is being interviewed in the office and the pens on the desk are at different angles when the camera view switches from Jack's face to Ullman's.
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  11. Bev Vincent

    Bev Vincent Well-Known Member

    That's part of it. The bigger part has to do with "interpretations" of the movie's meaning as relates to the holocaust or the plight of the native Americans or the falsification of the lunar landing.
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  12. Mr. Cranky

    Mr. Cranky B.O. Man

    I think I might have seen it. The thing about the native Americans rings a bell. But I'll still re-watch it.
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  13. Tery

    Tery Dreaming in Middletown Moderator

    Thanks for reminding me about this! I have to find it now... had totally forgotten!
  14. icarus

    icarus Well-Known Member

    Yeah Ive seen this documentary and there is one part where they discuss Danny Jumper in the film which has a "Space Shuttle with Apollo 11" on the jumper....and the documentary states that Kubrik created the so called "fake apollo 11 moon landing" because his movie 2001 A Space Oddessy was so good and was so realistic that Kubrik was asked to create to fake apollo 11 moon landing....and he put that scene with Dannys jumper as a message to say that he did create the fake apollo 11 moon landing.....but this has never been verified to be correct....
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  15. Bev Vincent

    Bev Vincent Well-Known Member

    As I wrote in my essay The Genius Fallacy: The Shining’s ‘Hidden’ Meanings (published in The Shining: Studies in the Horror Film), "the sweater was produced by the film’s costume designer without any input from Kubrick, according to Leon Vitali, the director’s personal assistant."
  16. icarus

    icarus Well-Known Member

    Cheers Bev, thats interesting.....I didnt know that the sweater was made by the Directors personal assistant and that Kubrick had no knowledge of it...that clears that up...thanks
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  17. Arbitrary Refrain

    Arbitrary Refrain Active Member

    I quite liked it even though the perceived hidden meanings were a bit desperate. It was entertaining enough, and Kubrick definitely made some deliberately bizarre choices to make things seem off kilter in that film.
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  18. Waylander

    Waylander Well-Known Member

    I've actually just finished watching this "documentary". That's 2 hours of my life wasted that I can never get back. What a load of rubbish. The only good thing about it was that I laughed at all of the theories throughout. I've not laughed so much for quite some time.

    Total twaddle.
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    GNTLGNT The idiot is IN

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  20. muskrat

    muskrat Dis-Member

    Saw some of this about a month ago. I dunno, seems like they read a lot of stuff into the movie--just so many goofy theories and hidden meanings, without any evidence to back any of it up. Stuff like, Scatman Cruthers' bow legs represent the warped and misshapen relationship between King and Kubrick. Waste of time, yeah.

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