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SK said Rose Madder was a "formula" book to his regret, just read it

Discussion in 'Rose Madder' started by Lindzilla, Feb 3, 2015.

  1. Neesy

    Neesy #1 fan (Annie Wilkes cousin) 1st cousin Mom's side

    I am happy to report that to me this was not a "formula" book at all - it kept my attention and I loved it! (but maybe I am a bit strange or weird) :):umm:
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  2. kingricefan

    kingricefan All-being, keeper of Space, Time & Dimension.

    I didn't care for the supernatural elements of the story at all. I thought that Steve could have written a very fine story about spousal abuse without inserting any kind of otherworldly element into the story. This could have been a powerful and topical story. 'Nearly Normal Norman' was the only monster this tale needed.
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  3. staropeace

    staropeace Richard Bachman's love child

    I did not like the Greek myth part of it. I loved the "other stuff", though. It was riveting.
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  4. not_nadine

    not_nadine Comfortably Roont

    Being shallow, I wanted her long braid.
    When I left, I changed everything. Even my hair color. I understood that.
    But it is not that easy, wish it were.

    I might have said this in this thread already, or somewhere else. It is not that easy to

    catch a bus, hook up with a kind stranger who shows you to a wonderful place with friends and a job

    This is the only thing that bugged me about the novel.

    On the second read, I just loved it. He captured what it is like.
    Last edited: Jul 9, 2015
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  5. Doc Creed

    Doc Creed Well-Known Member

    There are three books by King that I felt were soft balls that barely made it over the plate. Rose Madder, From A Buick 8, and The Girl Who Loved Tom Gordon. I agree with King's assessment of this book. To me, it felt forced and you can almost feel King searching for the next word. As a reader, I felt lost and bewildered. Many say they didn't like the supernatural element of this book, but to me that's the only thing that saved it. It felt formulaic (Abused Woman pursued by Predator) and the odd and whimsical world Rosie enters redeemed the story, I feel. Slightly elevates it. The reader knows what will happen (more or less) when she buys the painting, and is just waiting for it to happen. Luckily for us, King's worst day at the ballgame is still extraordinary.
    I will eventually read it again. Maybe, the second go round will make a difference as some of you have noted. Don't stone me.
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  6. Mia_Rose

    Mia_Rose Member

    I agree. It was as if SK stepped inside the psyche of an abused spouse and channeled text from that place, describing her familiar home, the strangeness of the bus station, the benefactor at the women's home, etc. To the last detail, it was profound.
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  7. Moderator

    Moderator Ms. Mod Administrator

    He spoke with the director at one of the local women's shelters when doing research for the book but I don't recall if he spoke to any of the domestic violence victims as well. One of his gifts, though, is being able to get inside a character's head and portray them authentically.
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  8. RichardX

    RichardX Well-Known Member

    Not among King's best but not a bad book. Most effective with the domestic violence theme. There was also one very similar plot element with Mr. Mercedes regarding how the bad guy infiltrates a public event. I won't "spoil" it but I happened to be re-reading RM about the same time MrM was released and that's the only reason I noticed it.
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  9. Maddie

    Maddie Even a stopped clock is right twice a day.

    Rose Madder is still to this day my very favorite of all Stephen's books. I need to read it again. It was like he had honestly stepped inside the mind of a pschopathic killer , it had you thinking about he could even actually be one, and get away with it! The brilliance of the gift he has is beyond words. . I'm a slow reader but I read that book in 3 days, I really couldn't put it down even to sleep. A few people have asked me if I was ever abused in some way to feel as strongly for the book as I do, but I never have been. It was realistically magical and realistically terrifying, edge of your seat terrifying, and to me, is his greatest Masterpiece. I am still waiting for the movie and on the other hand, it might not be possible to capture all that's in those pages to film, with as much impact, as the book has.
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  10. Ebdim9th

    Ebdim9th A Man's Chord and Author/bringer of Bad Dolls

    I have no complaints about the book at all. Again, we see Steve doing one of the things he's best at, taking familiar tropes and turning them inside-out until they're nearly unrecognizable as cliches ... (re: 'Salem's Lot as a prime example. Even at this time in the Seventies, the vampire genre seemed the stuff of satire, worn out and drying up.)
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  11. mal

    mal Well-Known Member

    I loved this book. Norman was very scary. As well as his good research and ability to get inside a characters head, I always wondered if he experienced or saw any of these things in his early youth.
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  12. ginapenn

    ginapenn Well-Known Member

    This is one of my favorites. I have it on audio and just started it again today (which brought me to this thread after a long hiatus). Still an incredible read.
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  13. FlakeNoir

    FlakeNoir Beta Tester Moderator

    Welcome back. :smile:
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  14. Steffen

    Steffen Well-Known Member

    I enjoyed that book very much.
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  15. Paddy C

    Paddy C All Hail The KING...

    I started reading Rose Madder a long time ago but never got through it but intend to fix that someday soon.
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  16. Cameraman

    Cameraman Member

    I just found this in a charity shop the other day. I'd no idea what it was about but it was a SK book and selling for 50p so.... So it's about domestic violence, well I may not enjoy it then because some of the scenes I read in IT that deal with DV really made me wince!
  17. Neesy

    Neesy #1 fan (Annie Wilkes cousin) 1st cousin Mom's side

    I liked Rose Madder quite a bit, as did many members on here - there is a little bit of fantasy in there but overall I thought it was a very good story that I would definitely read again!

  18. VampireLily

    VampireLily Vampire Goddess & Consumer of men's souls.

    i have to admit, RM was not one of my faves. I liked the concept of it (even though i have a family full of police officers and state troopers) but i guess in the end, it felt muddled to me and dragged in some places.
  19. Neesy

    Neesy #1 fan (Annie Wilkes cousin) 1st cousin Mom's side

    Doc's Lowest Rungs On The Ladder | Page 3 | The StephenKing.com Message Board

    I thought this was funny: (It's from GoodReads)

    Posted by "Colleen Hoover"

    My book club read this book last month. This is how book club went basically:

    Joy: Colleen, what was your favorite part of this book?

    Me: Well, Joy, I'll get to that in a few, but would anyone like some chocolate? (Passes around a bowl of chocolate until they are all staring at me expectantly. Reluctantly continues.) You know, Joy, Stephen King never disappoints. Every time I turned the page, there were more words that formed sentences. The kind of sentences that make up all of Stephen King's books. Long ones, short ones, incomplete ones. But that's the beauty of this book, right? The sentences tell a story in a way that only sentences could. And THAT is why this book was so brilliant.

    Joy: You're a f*cking idiot. Why are you even in book club if you never actually read the books?

    Me: Five stars!

    [​IMG] This girl has a sense of humour - but with that last name, do you suppose she likes to vacuum?
  20. Doc Creed

    Doc Creed Well-Known Member

    Two years later and this review still grates on my nerves. Enough with the baseball metaphors. :facepalm_smiley:
    I do think it's an interesting slant to another book, Sleeping With The Enemy, but I will need to read again before and if I change my mind.
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