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some questions about the book ... unexplainable?

Discussion in ''Salem's Lot' started by bellatrix_l, Aug 18, 2017.

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  1. prufrock21

    prufrock21 Well-Known Member

    Welcome. I asked Mr. King the same questions, and he's not telling.
     
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  2. king family fan

    king family fan Prolific member

  3. Rockym

    Rockym Well-Known Member

    Actually, I believe it was stated in the book that it was Danny Glick that bit little Randy McDougal not Barlow. And I'm not sure if coffins are normally locked or not when buried, but it seems like they might be locked to prevent grave robbing.
     
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  4. ThomasWinter

    ThomasWinter Member

    I just finished the book for the first time, and I also wondered about the invitation. The McDougal baby being bitten didn't cross my mind, but Barlow entering the Petrie household did.

    I just took it as Type One vampires not needing an invitation in order to enter, but the McDougal situation now raises questions for me. I'm sure it was just an oversight. Still a great story, imo.
     
  5. Aloysius Nell

    Aloysius Nell Well-Known Member

    Question 3 --- And with the caveat that I haven't read it in years and don't remember the baptism part.....

    Mark was young, and if he wasn't Catholic, he likely was not baptized yet. In most Protestant churches, baptism is more like New Testament baptism than in the Catholic faith - i.e., it is a choice made by someone who has heard the message, believed it, repented of his/her sin, confessed that Jesus is God's son, and THEN been baptized. So it's more than just having a ceremony for a baby who can't do any of that. Why the ceremony means more to a vampire, I couldn't BEGIN to guess!

    Not trying to ruffle anyone's feathers, just trying to head off having to reply umpteen times to explain what I'm saying.
     
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  6. Aloysius Nell

    Aloysius Nell Well-Known Member

    I sometimes remind myself that just because we do not "see" every event in the story, they still happen. Sometimes an author is juggling three or four scenes that are occurring simultaneously; well, there are hundreds of other scenes also occurring that we never know about. So just because we don't know when/how a vampire was invited in, does not mean it didn't happen.
     
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  7. VampireLily

    VampireLily Vampire Goddess & Consumer of men's souls.

    The old 'Vampires can't enter a house without an invite' thing always annoyed me.

    I don't need an invite to enter your crib....as a matter of fact, i'll walk right in and eat your sammich too.
     
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  8. Aloysius Nell

    Aloysius Nell Well-Known Member

    You appear to be an atypical vampire....

    You're posting during the day, and you take a pretty darn good picture!
     
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  9. Kurben

    Kurben The Fool on the Hill

    Thats our VampireLily.... Going straight for the jugular but please keep your teeth away from my bacon sandwich!!
     
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  10. VampireLily

    VampireLily Vampire Goddess & Consumer of men's souls.

    i'm a day walker...thanks for noticing! :bashful:
     
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  11. VampireLily

    VampireLily Vampire Goddess & Consumer of men's souls.

    (wrestles Kurben for bacon sammich) ::P
     
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  12. GNTLGNT

    GNTLGNT The idiot is IN

    ....*feels all tingly*....
     
  13. GNTLGNT

    GNTLGNT The idiot is IN

    ...especially if it's a blood sausage sammich.....
     
  14. Doc Creed

    Doc Creed Well-Known Member

    Hmmm, never thought of that, Coyo-T. I guess this would help explain what constitutes a home from any other dwelling such as a barn, pub, school, or any other place a vampire can waltz into uninvited. Food for thought. (I'm not saying King subscribes to this logic in his universe, per se).
     
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  15. kingricefan

    kingricefan All-being, keeper of Space, Time & Dimension.

    TWSS! ;;D
     
  16. skimom2

    skimom2 Just moseyin' through...

    'Salem's Lot is maybe my favorite King book of all, so I love questions like these! Here goes:
    1) It was Danny Glick who entered the McDougall home. His invitation could have been as simple as the baby seeing a face at the window and smiling/waving, indicating welcome. Barlow was able to overcome that stricture when he entered the Petrie home because of his great strength and age.

    2) Mike may have been surprised that it was locked, but that doesn't mean that it didn't happen occasionally. In this case, the family chose the lock when other families may not have. No big deal. If it had said he was shocked, that would have been a different thing altogether.

    3) Many supernatural stories, both written and on film, juxtapose evil against the Catholic church more than any other. When something potentially supernatural happens in most movies/books, do they waltz down and get the closest Baptist minister or Momon bishop? Heck no! It's always a priest. Even Barlow taunts Father Callahan with the fact that he was 'old when your people (Catholics) were hiding in sewers and painting fish on themselves" (or something along those lines--I'm too lazy to go get the book for the exact quote--lol). The book tells us that Mark's parents were casual Christians (Methodist, maybe? Can't remember for sure, but Mr. King tends to fall back on what he knows when it comes to religion), so it's possible that he was already baptized. However, the Catholic Church recognizes baptism from most Christian denominations (he wouldn't have to be rebaptized), so I suspect he was not baptized prior to his time in Mexico. Staro is right--there is more to joining the Catholic Church when you're older than a baby than just holy water--there is catechism (knowing the basics of the faith and proving you know them) and anointing with oil as well. Maybe it is the fact of the religion being so old and the rites being nearly as old that makes that particular faith seem stronger against evil than other Christian religions, all of which grew from this religious root? Something to think about, anyway :)

    Welcome!
     
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  17. VampireLily

    VampireLily Vampire Goddess & Consumer of men's souls.


    i prefer bacon! :yes_pig:
     
  18. Steve in WI

    Steve in WI Active Member

    I'm not sure it's ever explicitly said in the book that the Petrie family is particularly religious. In fact, given how much attention is paid to his father's rigid sense of rationality and inability to conceive of supernatural evil, it seems reasonable to guess that the family isn't especially religious. (They probably identified as Christian, though, and Mark could have been baptized as an infant even if his family wasn't super-active in the church, but I think it's at least plausible that he wasn't).
     

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