When IT isn't hunting...

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KittensScareMe

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This is a really silly question but..

What do you think IT does when it isnt hunting? Does It just sit idley watching and wating for prey to come along or would it have a small nap? I think IT kinda observes everyone and absorb information that it could use to make catching prey easier. Kinda like a baby watches the world and gains information from it.

And a unrelated question. Pennywise threatened Ritchie to turn his tongue into pus, this was with adult ritchie and the paul statue do you think he can actually do that was was he talking crap?
 
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This is a really silly question but..

What do you think IT does when it isnt hunting? Does It just sit idley watching and wating for prey to come along or would it have a small nap? I think IT kinda observes everyone and absorb information that it could use to make catching prey easier. Kinda like a baby watches the world and gains information from it.

And a unrelated question. Pennywise threatened Ritchie to turn his tongue into pus, this was with adult ritchie and the paul statue do you think he can actually do that was was he talking crap?
....he probably watched Dr. Phil......
 

KittensScareMe

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Robert Gray

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This is a really silly question but..

What do you think IT does when it isnt hunting? Does It just sit idley watching and wating for prey to come along or would it have a small nap? I think IT kinda observes everyone and absorb information that it could use to make catching prey easier. Kinda like a baby watches the world and gains information from it.

I suppose this is possible, but unlikely. We are largely ants to It; and out of sight is normally out of mind. It is an eternal being; a year is nothing to it. I expect it doesn't even notice the time between hunts. Something tasty wanders across one of its favorite places and it strikes. It can pull all the information it needs from the mind of the person it decides to torment and consume. I suppose if it had to work to find its meals, it might spend a minimal amount of time on it, but it doesn't. :)

And a unrelated question. Pennywise threatened Ritchie to turn his tongue into pus, this was with adult ritchie and the paul statue do you think he can actually do that was was he talking crap?

I expect it could, yes. Without a doubt it could make Richie feel and experience those sensations. I suspect it could also make its mark more personal and lasting. The monster claims to have killed the librarian Ben loved as a child; she died of sickness/disease. But to some degree, I also think it was talking crap too. I think the creature is just impeded enough by our reality that it must work within certain constraints. To be physical it must take a form and all the weaknesses of that form. It is a package deal. To do things to people it must interact with them, often physically. The monster can do all sorts of things to people, but doesn't MOST of the time for two simple reasons:

1. It can't be bothered. We are ants and out of sight and mind unless it is eating or entertaining itself.
2. It cultivates its personal game preserve. No point in driving away the meals.

Can the monster give the Losers great wealth, long lives, etc.? Yes. Can it cause disease, blight, and other things that one would normally attribute to a malicious spiritual entity? Yes. Is there a cost for doing such things to the monster? I submit that it is quite costly. There are rules and constraints that the creature must abide (however angrily) to enter our reality. When it takes physical form, it takes on the weaknesses of said form. This is clearly a cost, not a choice. It can easily kill, whether by curse or agent (when it rides a dogsbody) but it doesn't do this often. Why? Cost. Everything the monster does indicates that it is lazy or thrifty. It can do amazing, terrible things. Why doesn't it do them all the time? It certainly isn't held back by any moral or ethical constraints. The only conclusion is that taking physical form comes at a cost of some kind. That is why it doesn't chase children too far, which allows some to get away. Why does it go back to the Clown shape (one of many favorites) when it isn't pulling a form from a victims's mind? Again, it has practiced this form and it requires less effort. Why isn't it riding dogsbodies all the time? Again, it comes back to effort and desire (it doesn't always notice us and cares less). While we may never understand the cost or be able to count it, there clearly is a method to this madness. I went off on a tangent here, but I think the answer to you question is yes I think It can do all that it threatened and far more, but I also think it was talking crap in that it had no intention of doing something so costly, when it had other methods of getting what it wanted (and soon) without near so much effort or expense.
 
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KittensScareMe

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I suppose this is possible, but unlikely. We are largely ants to It; and out of sight is normally out of mind. It is an eternal being; a year is nothing to it. I expect it doesn't even notice the time between hunts. Something tasty wanders across one of its favorite places and it strikes. It can pull all the information it needs from the mind of the person it decides to torment and consume. I suppose if it had to work to find its meals, it might spend a minimal amount of time on it, but it doesn't. :)



I expect it could, yes. Without a doubt it could make Richie feel and experience those sensations. I suspect it could also make its mark more personal and lasting. The monster claims to have killed the librarian Ben loved as a child; she died of sickness/disease. But to some degree, I also think it was talking crap too. I think the creature is just impeded enough by our reality that it must work within certain constraints. To be physical it must take a form and all the weaknesses of that form. It is a package deal. To do things to people it must interact with them, often physically. The monster can do all sorts of things to people, but doesn't MOST of the time for two simple reasons:

1. It can't be bothered. We are ants and out of sight and mind unless it is eating or entertaining itself.
2. It cultivates its personal game preserve. No point in driving away the meals.

Can the monster give the Losers great wealth, long lives, etc.? Yes. Can it cause disease, blight, and other things that one would normally attribute to a malicious spiritual entity? Yes. Is there a cost for doing such things to the monster? I submit that it is quite costly. There are rules and constraints that the creature must abide (however angrily) to enter our reality. When it takes physical form, it takes on the weaknesses of said form. This is clearly a cost, not a choice. It can easily kill, whether by curse or agent (when it rides a dogsbody) but it doesn't do this often. Why? Cost. Everything the monster does indicates that it is lazy or thrifty. It can do amazing, terrible things. Why doesn't it do them all the time? It certainly isn't held back by any moral or ethical constraints. The only conclusion is that taking physical form comes at a cost of some kind. That is why it doesn't chase children too far, which allows some to get away. Why does it go back to the Clown shape (one of many favorites) when it isn't pulling a form from a victims's mind? Again, it has practiced this form and it requires less effort. Why isn't it riding dogsbodies all the time? Again, it comes back to effort and desire (it doesn't always notice us and cares less). While we may never understand the cost or be able to count it, there clearly is a method to this madness. I went off on a tangent here, but I think the answer to you question is yes I think It can do all that it threatened and far more, but I also think it was talking crap in that it had no intention of doing something so costly, when it had other methods of getting what it wanted (and soon) without near so much effort or expense.
So it just does nothing in its spare time? If it wandered around derry it might miss a meal if someone went to its favorite spots.
 

Robert Gray

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So it just does nothing in its spare time? If it wandered around derry it might miss a meal if someone went to its favorite spots.

Let me try to explain it with an example regarding subjective time. An adult and a child both sit in a room with the television off on a late afternoon. There is a beautiful view through the window of an Autumn orchard outside. It is quiet. It is peaceful. The adult is enjoying the moment which seems to pass too quickly. The child feels like it has been imprisoned forever as precious time slips away. The child wants to be outside in the orchard.

The monster the Losers called It (or Pennywise) is a cosmic being of unimaginable age. It doesn't understand time the way we do. A day, a week, a month, a year, a decade, a century.... all of these things are fleeting moments to a creature that marks time in eternities. We are "short timers" to use King's jargon from Insomnia. Time is precious to us and therefore we notice and lament every lost minute. :) The key thing is we notice time. We notice periods of emptiness or lack of activity. We are the child in my example above.

Time is subjective. The incredibly brief periods of time between hunts would seem like nothing to It. It might be doing nothing. It could be doing a million other things besides. The point is that its gaze and activity seem to be elsewhere. Only when the Losers actually hurt it and truly draw its attention does the Monster start to plan and plot. That is the exception, not the rule. Another poster described it as digesting its meal like a snake having eaten a big mouse. That is as good a metaphor as we are going to get. What seems like a lot of time for the creature to fill (by our standards) is nothing more than fleeting moments it doesn't even notice. It doesn't have to fill that time.
 

KittensScareMe

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Let me try to explain it with an example regarding subjective time. And adult and a child both sit in a room with the television off on a late afternoon. There is a beautiful view through the window of an Autumn orchard outside. It is quiet. It is peaceful. The adult is enjoying the moment which seems to pass too quickly. The child feels like it has been imprisoned forever as precious time slips away. The child wants to be outside in the orchard.

The monster the Losers called It (or Pennywise) is a cosmic being of unimaginable age. It doesn't understand time the way we do. A day, a week, a month, a year, a decade, a century.... all of these things are fleeting moments to a creature that marks time in eternities. We are "short timers" to use King's jargon from Insomnia. Time is precious to us and therefore we notice and lament every lost minute. :) The key thing is we notice time. We notice periods of emptiness or lack of activity. We are the child in my example above.

Time is subjective. The incredibly brief periods of time between hunts would seem like nothing to It. It might be doing nothing. It could be doing a million other things besides. The point is that its gaze and activity seem to be elsewhere. Only when the Losers actually hurt it and truly draw its attention does the Monster start to plan and plot. That is the exception, not the rule. Another poster described it as digesting its meal like a snake having eaten a big mouse. That is as good a metaphor as we are going to get. What seems like a lot of time for the creature to fill (by our standards) is nothing more than fleeting moments it doesn't even notice. It doesn't have to fill that time.
So after the creature has had its meal and there is nothing else for it to do, it would most likely just sit back and chill like the adult in your example? So it would just be doing nothing until something get its attention? Seems like a good idea for it to conserve energy to put in the energy to get its food and lay eggs. Im sorry for over analyzing but this creature is so damn interesting I cant get enough of it!
 

Robert Gray

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So after the creature has had its meal and there is nothing else for it to do, it would most likely just sit back and chill like the adult in your example? So it would just be doing nothing until something get its attention? Seems like a good idea for it to conserve energy to put in the energy to get its food and lay eggs. Im sorry for over analyzing but this creature is so damn interesting I cant get enough of it!

Nothing in our understanding, no. The danger in thinking about It as a natural creature is that it causes us to think about it in evolutionary terms. It isn't natural. It doesn't do the things it does for any reason we truly understand. It comes from outside of everything. There are lots of interesting questions which have to do with the coming of its spawn, not the least of which is whether or not this entity bred with people/creatures in our reality. I don't know how familiar you are with Tolkien's Middle Earth, but there was a cosmic entity which took spider shape within it called Ungoliant. This creature is referred to as if it is female as well. It started as spiritual matter and chose the form of a giant spider on Middle Earth, giving up the metaphysical for the physical. It only had one desire to eat and eat and eat. It also gave birth to spawn, birthing an entire race of giant spiders. These creatures were never as big as her, nor were they spiritual creatures. They were entirely nightmare children of Middle Earth. I bring up Ungoliant because of the interesting parallels.

Ungoliant mated with twisted creatures in our world to create her brood. Did the monster known as It do likewise? Or did it reproduce asexually, just using thousands upon thousands of years to make truly independent offshoots of itself to go forth?