Who here DOES NOT smoke pot?

HollyGolightly said:

Oh gosh - wasn't that liver transplant/kidney removal episode too funny? Just when I think they've reached their limit of crazy, here they come with more.

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We need a Shameless thread. I live in the US and had never heard of it until the US version started. I've only seen one or two episodes of the US version but the UK version showed up on Netflix and I've been watching it. I'm up to season 8 and have thoroughly enjoyed this show. I've also learned a ton of new slang. Gobshite may be my new favorite word. Sorry, no one respond to this and get back on topic.

fljoe0 said:

We need a Shameless thread. I live in the US and had never heard of it until the US version started. I've only seen one or two episodes of the US version but the UK version showed up on Netflix and I've been watching it. I'm up to season 8 and have thoroughly enjoyed this show. I've also learned a ton of new slang. Gobshite may be my new favorite word. Sorry, no one respond to this and get back on topic.

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I had no idea there was UK version! I'm going to check that out. I love British humor !

Moderator said:

...Am in the camp of legalizing it for both medicinal and recreational use... Also believe people should be allowed to grow a certain amount for their own personal use rather than having to buy it, just like they can do with alcohol.

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I have a profound personal history with pot. Note that I was born in 1952, making me 17 in 1969. Can you imagine? My high school buds and I shunned drug use as for losers and that attitude lasted not very long. For most of us pot was what we started with (not me, being the eternal rebel; I started with speed, but simply because it was available that [fateful] day). I loved smoking pot, hash, whatever derivatives one can ignite, though it caused me to isolate myself socially. I can attest to the fact that pot does have anti-anxiety benefits. I can also attest that it can have the opposite. Pot was my first experience with my own addictive personality. Today, I consider myself a recovering marijuana addict. I realize that not everyone is an addictive personality, and that some people can smoke pot in moderation. I don't like the idea of denying anything within reason to people at large just because a small percentage has a problem with it. So after years of considering where to stand on pot's legalization, and learning to overlook my personal biases, I've concluded that the right thing to do is to legalize it. I grow very weary of stories about someone getting busted for possession of a small amount of it. Don't we as a society have much bigger fish to fry, c'mon? The cons to legalization as I see them include what appear to be negative side effects for at least some individuals. I guess my feeling is, like Grandpa suggested, let's see what happens. Also, I agree with the idea of allowing people to grow their own, though I imagine certain regulations will have to apply, perhaps including inspections, as well as limits of amounts.

In the day I believe pot was for sure a gateway drug, but it's influence in that regard may've mellowed. America thinks differently now than it used to about all kinds of things. We've learned much about the detrimental effects we used to be ignorant of of harder drugs, for instance.

As for my recovery, recently, for a reason which probably amounts simply to temptation, the idea of getting high again appealed to me enough to ask my neighbor, whom I noticed smoking it in his backyard, for a hit. I think it might be a blessing in disguise, but whatever he had is not the same thing I used to smoke. The effects are entirely different, and in my case anyway, very bad. Some people whom I've asked about this claim that what I smoked was "medical marijuana", but I don't think it is, unless for me medical marijuana is supposed to paralyze me, cause nausea and sometimes vomiting, and near blindness. My neighbor's is not the only stuff I've tried recently, and while most of it hasn't nearly killed me, none of it is anything like what it used to be. This is why I say I think my recent experience might be a blessing in disguise; perhaps God's way of saying let's not go there again.

HollyGolightly said:

I had no idea there was UK version! I'm going to check that out. I love British humor !

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Put your subtitles on. I've been watching it long enough that I can go without subtitles now. The subtitles were helpful with all of the slang terms that I was not familiar with. Being able to see them in print helped them to sink in.

So, I mentioned gobshite earlier. I kept hearing this word and couldn't figure it out. In the intro to the show, the characters are introduced and I would hear, "Lip (short for Philip) is a bit of a gobshite, that's why we call him Lip." Finally, I googled gobshite and came up with a definition of a person who talks a lot but doesn't have anything important to say like ****e coming out of their gob.

After high school I spent a year experimenting with different drugs and getting high every day. (Got high with friends every afternoon and watched "Leave It to Beaver" reruns! Got high other times of the day as well.) I completely submerged myself in the drug culture. Looking back, though, I believe it was more of a sociological thing-- almost like I wanted to be worldly and experience many things in life and that lifestyle happened to be one of them. After several months, I suddenly got very bored with it all. Increasingly, my fellow potheads seemed like pathetic losers who were going nowhere. They were stagnating and, more importantly, I was stagnating. One day I just stopped it all and started a whole new life. I've never used any drugs or alcohol since.

Just a couple things in the thread.

Any drug, including alcohol, is a gateway drug. When a person is immersed in drug use, there has to be a first drug, by definition. I knew a guy who was a crack addict. A sad story. But crack was his gateway drug.

Marijuana can most definitely be addictive. You bring someone into a clinic for an inpatient procedure and tell them they can't bring in their weed or tobacco. Oh, my, the protests, the rage. Yeah. It's addictive.

Autumn Gust said:

After high school I spent a year experimenting with different drugs and getting high every day. (Got high with friends every afternoon and watched "Leave It to Beaver" reruns! Got high other times of the day as well.) I completely submerged myself in the drug culture. Looking back, though, I believe it was more of a sociological thing-- almost like I wanted to be worldly and experience many things in life and that lifestyle happened to be one of them. After several months, I suddenly got very bored with it all. Increasingly, my fellow potheads seemed like pathetic losers who were going nowhere. They were stagnating and, more importantly, I was stagnating. One day I just stopped it all and started a whole new life. I've never used any drugs or alcohol since.

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This is an example of a person who is not an addict, at least not to marijuana or alcohol.

blunthead said:

This is an example of a person who is not an addict, at least not to marijuana or alcohol.

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You're right, self-discipline in these areas comes easy to me. My addiction is the cultivation of my neuroses.

Autumn Gust said:

You're right, self-discipline in these areas comes easy to me. My addiction is the cultivation of my neuroses.

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You're mistaking addiction for hobby.

I had one joint, once, eons ago. Made me so paranoid. I have an addictive personality, I guess the "drugs don't work" thing worked for me. I struggle enough with alcohol. I've got a firm rein on that one. At last. My husband used to smoke a lot (all before I met him). Then he moved onto speed, big time. Got himself off it, by himself, for himself. He would say pot is a gateway, through and through. But each to their own.

I used to and then one day I guess I just got..bored of it? Sounds extremely strange that you can get bored of a mood elevating substance, but I did. Just not my thing anymore. When I get older I might hop back on that train with edibles, but for now just doesn't do much for me anymore.

Good post Blunt..the word is that marijuana today has been refined or otherwise changed so that it is not your father's pot..there are many strains that are very strong,and create adverse reactions.My personal feeling is that it should be studied and dispensed in a manner that is responsible,and I do mean legalized.It is a drug just like any other,with effects,but the milder ones,I have no problem with as long as the person imbibing understands that driving under it's influence is not to be done.I saw a recent news program,with a toddler that has a terrible condition,and her only positive response was to a certain strain,sold in Colorado..not smoked but otherwise used,and it really helped her,I think we need to study and use the compounds if they help ill people..and no real concerns from me if people want to blaze up in their own homes.

mjs9153 said:

Good post Blunt..the word is that marijuana today has been refined or otherwise changed so that it is not your father's pot..there are many strains that are very strong,and create adverse reactions.My personal feeling is that it should be studied and dispensed in a manner that is responsible,and I do mean legalized.It is a drug just like any other,with effects,but the milder ones,I have no problem with as long as the person imbibing understands that driving under it's influence is not to be done.I saw a recent news program,with a toddler that has a terrible condition,and her only positive response was to a certain strain,sold in Colorado..not smoked but otherwise used,and it really helped her,I think we need to study and use the compounds if they help ill people..and no real concerns from me if people want to blaze up in their own homes.

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Thanx, mjs. For a long time I've been for lots of research into marijuana in order to understand it most accurately, to isolate the good things, to determine any bad things (I heard once that smoking it causes cancer more routinely than tobacco does, and is otherwise more harsh to lung tissue; we hear that it tends to encourage anti-social behavior, and even to lower IQ). I just think as a society we should not be afraid of it, just wary of possible side effects.

Senor Mexico will be really angry if MJ is legalized in the States.

Stock up and freeze a pallet of tortillas now.

Shortage incoming.

HollyGolightly said:

I had no idea there was UK version! I'm going to check that out. I love British humor !

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Yep, as per usual, we make a show, America decimates it. I actually cant stand it though.

The Nameless said:

Yep, as per usual, we make a show, America decimates it. I actually cant stand it though.

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I've seen trailers of Shameless, and couldn't think of anything more miserable to watch. The Royle family though.... Now that I LOVED.

mustangclaire said:

I've seen trailers of Shameless, and couldn't think of anything more miserable to watch. The Royle family though.... Now that I LOVED.

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Me too, I always watch them on GOLD. I didn't think many people from down South liked it that much to be honest.

It doesn't mix well with my job (see screen name) or my asthmatic lungs. Plus, I'm really cheap; I can't see just burning my money up.

The Nameless said:

Yep, as per usual, we make a show, America decimates it. I actually cant stand it though.

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Don't feel singled out. We remake our own stuff all the time too. We are remake happy here. Anything that made money years ago gets the remake treatment. Halloween, Carrie, Planet of The Apes. You name it and we have a remake of it. I think there is even a remake of Casablanca. WTH?

mustangclaire said:

I had one joint, once, eons ago. Made me so paranoid. I have an addictive personality, I guess the "drugs don't work" thing worked for me. I struggle enough with alcohol. I've got a firm rein on that one. At last. My husband used to smoke a lot (all before I met him). Then he moved onto speed, big time. Got himself off it, by himself, for himself. He would say pot is a gateway, through and through. But each to their own.

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Let's never smoke one together then. We'd just have to go on down to the jailhouse and turn ourselves in. Happy to hear your man is all sorted out.