10 Year Old Boy Charged As Adult In 90 Year Old Womans Beating Death.

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RandallFlagg19

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I’m glad this kid was charged as an adult. I’m tired of kids getting away with crimes because people say “oh they’re kids, they don’t know what they’re doing” of course they know what they’re doing, and they know it’s wrong.

In high school I would hear teenagers planning to assault, steal from, or vandalize other students property, and when someone would say “what if we get caught and arrested” the response would be “ we are minors, they’re not going to put us in jail, and our record would be expunged when we turn 18”

I was struck by the quote for the boy saying “I was only trying to hurt her”: as if it’s ok to plan on physically assaulting someone as long as you don’t intend to kill the person.
 

staropeace

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If there's enough evidence to suggest negligence or an unwillingness to address this kid's anger issues, then the parents ought to be tried as well for accessory to murder. Yeah, I know it will never happen.

That was my WTF Moment of the Day.
It is not always the parent's fault. Some serial killers have come from normal families and their siblings have been model citizens. This kid is probably a sociopath. Our ancestors would probably call him a "bad seed" and our ancestors are right. This child has more than anger issues.
 

Liselle

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I suspect that there is more to this story since we have not been given any background story of the child in question which could answer a lot of questions. Whilst I agree it is not always the parents fault, but there is usually pointers that the parents choose to ignore because they do not want to admit there is anything wrong with their child.
 

staropeace

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I suspect that there is more to this story since we have not been given any background story of the child in question which could answer a lot of questions. Whilst I agree it is not always the parents fault, but there is usually pointers that the parents choose to ignore because they do not want to admit there is anything wrong with their child.
I worked with child welfare and for Youth Assessment and Receiving Homes before I started to work with the street people. I felt much safer with the streetpeople. This kid very likely had seen a school councellor before. I know of cases where the parent's have been terrified of their own child and terrified for the safety of his or her siblings.
 

hipmamajen

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It's encouraging that the mom turned him in. It's no guarantee, but hopefully it means he's been raised well and just has a twist in the system.

So many times the parents try to cover for their kids no matter how awful the crime is. When that happens you can usually figure out pretty quickly how the kid learned not to fear authority.
 

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I’m glad this kid was charged as an adult. I’m tired of kids getting away with crimes because people say “oh they’re kids, they don’t know what they’re doing” of course they know what they’re doing, and they know it’s wrong.

In high school I would hear teenagers planning to assault, steal from, or vandalize other students property, and when someone would say “what if we get caught and arrested” the response would be “ we are minors, they’re not going to put us in jail, and our record would be expunged when we turn 18”

I was struck by the quote for the boy saying “I was only trying to hurt her”: as if it’s ok to plan on physically assaulting someone as long as you don’t intend to kill the person.
Thank you. To me if a person is aware that what they are doing is wrong, thats adult enough for me. Especially when they are aware they probably won't be charged adults. I understand there already juvenile facilities and they would most likely not benefit from an adult prison, but the punishment has to fit the crime.
 

AnnaMarie

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I don't agree with charging as an adult.

I don't think the average ten year old thinks like an adult. It doesn't sound like he planned and plotted this. He had a temper tantrum.

Obviously he needs either therapy or punishment...or a combination.

Of course, I don't think the name of a minor should be released until he has been convicted as an adult. I'm starting to think the prosecutors charge as an adult, release the info, then allow a plea down. But of course, you can't pull that info back in once it's out.
 

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Of course, I don't think the name of a minor should be released until he has been convicted as an adult. I'm starting to think the prosecutors charge as an adult, release the info, then allow a plea down. But of course, you can't pull that info back in once it's out.

Thank you! I was wondering about that. Why was the boys name and photo released? Most reputable papers/news stations will not release this information even if they know it. Usually it's policy. IDK?

Peace.
 

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I don't agree with charging as an adult.

I don't think the average ten year old thinks like an adult. It doesn't sound like he planned and plotted this. He had a temper tantrum.

Obviously he needs either therapy or punishment...or a combination.

Of course, I don't think the name of a minor should be released until he has been convicted as an adult. I'm starting to think the prosecutors charge as an adult, release the info, then allow a plea down. But of course, you can't pull that info back in once it's out.

I know it's an awful crime and all but I'm not on board with charging a 10 year old as an adult either.
 

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We just had two 16 year olds, one female and one male that are boyfriend/girlfriend, that have been arrested for shooting the girl's Uncle to death. She says she was sleeping in the other room, heard a loud bang, then another louder bang and then the boyfriend came into the room and said he had just shot her Uncle. He says that he was asleep in the other room and heard a two loud bangs, ran into the other room and found the Uncle dead. I say they both watched an episode of Law And Order where this exact same thing happened and both of the teenagers were able to get away with the murder. This world is crumbling around us........
 

AnnaMarie

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Thank you! I was wondering about that. Why was the boys name and photo released? Most reputable papers/news stations will not release this information even if they know it. Usually it's policy. IDK?

Peace.

In Canada I think they are not allowed to release name and photo until convicted as an adult. But in the US it seems they release that info when charged as an adult.

This kid should be charged as an adult. He should serve his time in a secure psychiatric facility were he can hopefully get the mental help he needs.

You believe at 10 years old he acted as an adult? With the comprehension of an adult?

I agree a psych facility might be more appropriate than a jail-like setting. Plus, a psych facility doesn't have an automatic release date. (Though he could be released sooner rather than later.)
 

swiftdog2.0

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In Canada I think they are not allowed to release name and photo until convicted as an adult. But in the US it seems they release that info when charged as an adult.



You believe at 10 years old he acted as an adult? With the comprehension of an adult?

I agree a psych facility might be more appropriate than a jail-like setting. Plus, a psych facility doesn't have an automatic release date. (Though he could be released sooner rather than later.)

I believe at 10 years old you certainly know right from wrong. The vast majority of 10 year olds know that murdering someone is definitely wrong. He certainly knows what he did was wrong based on his "I only meant to hurt her" statement. Now having said that, if turns out he has no remorse or doesn't care that what he did was wrong he's a sociopath and should never, ever be let of prison or mental facility.