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Gerald

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True. I suppose you could wipe down everything you touch if you want to minimize your exposure even further but shopping cart handles are the things we can pretty much guarantee someone else has been handling.

I've run out of food and have to go get it today. I'm putting on mittens.

There's only one reported case in my town - one of about 20 in The Netherlands. The person is at home and not allowed to go out - his/her family members are allowed to go out though for necessary things - so it can spread through them. I don't know why they don't put infected in total quarantine, but I suppose they see that as inhuman or something.

Anyway, I'm not directly in the risk group I think. I'm not a smoker and not that old. I also have quite strongly OCD and always wash my hands about 40-50 times anyway each day, I would guess.
 

GNTLGNT

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.....the whole idea of washing hands, sanitizing things that you can etc are what I mean about standard precautions.....no difference with this virus than any other....and those that are snapping up masks are wasting their money and endangering their health AND mine.....what I mean is, there are now shortages or downright zero stockpiles for those of us in health care because people are panic buying....good god people!.....and those that are wiping out(pun intended)TP supplies?....REALLY????......it's not a virus that makes you poop uncontrollably!!!......
 

DiO'Bolic

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.....the whole idea of washing hands, sanitizing things that you can etc are what I mean about standard precautions.....no difference with this virus than any other....and those that are snapping up masks are wasting their money and endangering their health AND mine.....what I mean is, there are now shortages or downright zero stockpiles for those of us in health care because people are panic buying....good god people!.....and those that are wiping out(pun intended)TP supplies?....REALLY????......it's not a virus that makes you poop uncontrollably!!!......
Panic buying and hoarding with the littlest of scares, taking valuable tools healthcare people needs to do their jobs, is why the human race is doomed. Face it... when push comes to shove it is survival of the fittest and every man/woman for themselves.
 

fljoe0

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Panic buying and hoarding with the littlest of scares, taking valuable tools healthcare people needs to do their jobs, is why the human race is doomed. Face it... when push comes to shove it is survival of the fittest and every man/woman for themselves.


I have a hoarding story from our 2004 hurricanes. We got dead centered by two hurricanes in 3 weeks. When the first storm was coming in, batteries disappeared off the shelves (understandably). After the first storm, we were without power for about 2 weeks. We got power back for a couple of days and then got word we were about to be hit again. My battery supply was low because of the first storm and I didn't think I was going to be able to find any because there was barely any time for deliveries after the first storm. Not only did we not have power but it was really difficult to even drive in here. I went to a store and there were loads of batteries available. So, I got some batteries and went to pay for them. I commented to the cashier about how I wasn't expecting there to be any batteries because of the second storm coming. She told me that they had so many because people had returned them after the first storm. So I guess all of those people had enough batteries for two storms, two weeks without power plus enough extra batteries they could return to fill up a store with batteries. :)
 

DiO'Bolic

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I have a hoarding story from our 2004 hurricanes. We got dead centered by two hurricanes in 3 weeks. When the first storm was coming in, batteries disappeared off the shelves (understandably). After the first storm, we were without power for about 2 weeks. We got power back for a couple of days and then got word we were about to be hit again. My battery supply was low because of the first storm and I didn't think I was going to be able to find any because there was barely any time for deliveries after the first storm. Not only did we not have power but it was really difficult to even drive in here. I went to a store and there were loads of batteries available. So, I got some batteries and went to pay for them. I commented to the cashier about how I wasn't expecting there to be any batteries because of the second storm coming. She told me that they had so many because people had returned them after the first storm. So I guess all of those people had enough batteries for two storms, two weeks without power plus enough extra batteries they could return to fill up a store with batteries. :)
At the home improvement center when we have a bad snowstorm or ice storm forecast we sell out of generators and snowblowers. Then a week or two later we get back a bunch of returns for them. It’s not so bad if the product is unused but people use them for the storm and then return them. We then can’t sell them as new and have to discount them. So if anyone is ever looking for a good price on generators or snowblowers come go to the stores a week or two after a bad storm.
 

fljoe0

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At the home improvement center when we have a bad snowstorm or ice storm forecast we sell out of generators and snowblowers. Then a week or two later we get back a bunch of returns for them. It’s not so bad if the product is unused but people use them for the storm and then return them. We then can’t sell them as new and have to discount them. So if anyone is ever looking for a good price on generators or snowblowers come go to the stores a week or two after a bad storm.


I can never figure out the run on plywood here when a storm is approaching. I understand it if there hasn't been a storm in many years but we have been going through the preparation stage two or three times a year since 2004. Every house built around here since at least 2000 has shutters (a law) or impact windows and most of the older ones do too. So, if you have a house without shutters and you need to cover the windows with plywood, you go buy the plywood cut it to size and install it. When the storm is over, you take the plywood down and put it in the garage for next time. It seems like as many times as we go through this drill that people wouldn't need so much plywood. But everytime there is the threat of a storm, it's the same scene. Where is all the plywood that was purchased the last time?
 

Kurben

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I know I had heard that as well. It was interesting the pharmacist was shaking his head no. He was either telling her they didn't have any or that they aren't recommended anyway.
It does not protect you if you are healthy since you can be infected in other ways than through mouth and nose. Like skin, eyes and so on. But a facemask, if you are sick, can protect others from you. It makes the risk that you are spreading the infection lessen drastically. So if you are ill and have to go out it might be a good idea. At least that what they are saying here.
 

Kurben

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60 new cases in the Stockholm area today. Very few seriously ill but they must keep themselves isolated for two weeks at least. havent seen any updated numbers for the whole country today but at a guess 350 total and 250 in stockholm.
 

Kurben

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It really boils down to common sense and personal hygiene. Stay home if you're sick.
If you show up sick to my salon, I'll spray you down with Lysol, and call it hairspray.
I'm thinking of those people that must go out for food or other stuff, that don't have anybody to do it for them. When they do they might spread the disease even if they dont want too. And the numbers we're given are probably not all. Everybody dont stay home from work and lose money, some dont realise they are infected. Since the symptoms arent clearcut, it could just as easily be a cold if you get a light version. Schools, childrens afterschools activities, gym, Sport events and other crowds are a possible danger. Now when playoffs in different sports are soon beginning. Is That wise? The arenas are so big today that its difficult to test everyone in time. To think that if there is a big audience that noone is infected is, i think, to fool oneself. But, on the other hand, if the arenas are closed for audience there will be a big economic fallout.
 

DiO'Bolic

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You must have an iron immune system with all the people that go to get their hair done when they are sick.
It’s those special concoctions they brew up in that back room at the salon. You know... Fillet of a fenny snake, In the cauldron boil and bake; Eye of newt and toe of frog, Wool of bat and tongue of dog, Adder's fork and blind-worm's sting, Lizard's leg and owlet's wing, For a charm of powerful trouble, Like a hell-broth boil and bubble. :)
 

fljoe0

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It’s those special concoctions they brew up in that back room at the salon. You know... Fillet of a fenny snake, In the cauldron boil and bake; Eye of newt and toe of frog, Wool of bat and tongue of dog, Adder's fork and blind-worm's sting, Lizard's leg and owlet's wing, For a charm of powerful trouble, Like a hell-broth boil and bubble. :)

Stirred with a sharp stick
 

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It’s those special concoctions they brew up in that back room at the salon. You know... Fillet of a fenny snake, In the cauldron boil and bake; Eye of newt and toe of frog, Wool of bat and tongue of dog, Adder's fork and blind-worm's sting, Lizard's leg and owlet's wing, For a charm of powerful trouble, Like a hell-broth boil and bubble. :)
Thank you William Shakespeare.....
 
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