Demon Possession?

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  1. staropeace

    staropeace Richard Bachman's love child

  2. Lina

    Lina Committed member

    I don't know if I truly believe in demon possession... I guess I do, especially after this movie, The Rite. I think it transfers the most important idea - if you don't believe in anything supernatural, that's alright. But, for example, if you believe in God, it means you believe in demons and devil, as neither could exist without the other. We can't believe only in the good (we can believe it wins, that's for sure), but still, if there is the good, there is the bad.
    In my favorite Master and Margarita by Mikhail Bulgakov there also was a great phrase: “But would you kindly ponder this question: What would your good do if
    evil didn't exist, and what would the earth look like if all the shadows
    disappeared? After all, shadows are cast by things and people. Here is the
    shadow of my sword. But shadows also come from trees and living beings.
    Do you want to strip the earth of all trees and living things just because
    of your fantasy of enjoying naked light?”
     
  3. WesleyGman

    WesleyGman Active Member

    If I were a person who believed in possession, it would be a rare occurrence. It would be something that can only happen to certain people who are weak perhaps mentally or emotionally for some reason or vice that hinders their lives. I'm definitely what you would call a religious person though I do not always reflect as such. But if possession were a real thing, then it would have to be so under the radar that few people could believe in it. I think that maybe there are people who are able to fight away such things - - if it were real. I also believe that you have to believe in it on some level for it to take effect. Not saying I'm 100% buying into anything like The Exorcist, but not selling demon possession yet. I can certainly see why someone would dismiss the idea.
     
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  4. Walter Oobleck

    Walter Oobleck keeps coming back...or going, and going, and going

    Saw a brief discussion on teevee last night. The kid walking up the wall backwards? Strange. There were at least two or maybe it was three who saw this happen. Possession? I dunno. Something strange. I think there are people in the world who embrace evil. I know that virtue is persecuted by the wicked more than it is loved by the good, true in Cervantes' day, true in our day. I believe there are people in power now as there has been in the past, people who are truly evil. I think those who embrace evil are embraced by evil.
     
  5. GNTLGNT

    GNTLGNT Why Chew Through The Restraints?

    ...I lean toward belief in the paranormal...and in this case, the law enforcement officer that fled after hearing voices, and then one came across his car radio???...that isn't power of suggestion, that's just uber-creepy...
     
  6. ZombieDrama

    ZombieDrama Well-Known Member

    "There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy" As a paranormal investigator, I just have dealt with too many weird things for there not to be some kind of mystery/paranormal going on. =)
    The strongest case for possession in my personal opinion was the 'Exorcist' case. That case that Blatty turned into a movie, brought * a lot* of folks back to the church once they saw it. Which fuels the theory that folks can be swayed by a movie or events. Deeper research led me to personally believe it was a true case of demonic possession. *clicks link* oh heck that's in Indiana? O.O
     
  7. staropeace

    staropeace Richard Bachman's love child

    See, Lina, I do not believe that if you believe in a Superior Being that you have to believe in demons. Faith is a subjective thing. It differs from one person to another. I know Catholic priests who have a hard time believing in devils.
    I think the belief in Possession is a dangerous belief that should be left back in the Middle ages. Nowadays we have mental health professionals who can help and explain atypical behaviour.
    I think suggestion can work on more than one or two people at any given time. If you want to see a certain behaviour, you will see it and interpret things in that mindframe. JMP
     
  8. ghost19

    ghost19 "Front sight focus."

    Anything I watch on TV I'm critical of as far as demonic possession. So called "documentaries" can be doctored, altered, enhanced or otherwise made to look like something they are not. I do have quite a bit of experience witnessing paranoid schizophrenia and I'll say this, that is the scariest thing I've ever witnessed in my life. Waking up from a restless sleep to see a loved one standing over your bed staring at you with no recognition in their eyes of who you are is terrifying. Having that same person tell you to your face they are going to kill you the next time you go to sleep because they think you are injecting them with heroin is even more disheartening. Scariest thing that has ever happened in my life. It literally seemed like the person was someone else. Bad deal.
     
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  9. ZombieDrama

    ZombieDrama Well-Known Member

    I forgot to like the post I can't believe it lol I wanted to read the link first then forgot to click like after. o_O I noticed because I came back to say I thought it was a cool story, it happened in the state I was born and raised in, so I thought I would Tweet it to my whopping 74 Twitter followers. xD Used a couple hashtags, someone saw it, an author, turned around and retweeted it to her approx 8000 followers. O.O
     
  10. Liselle

    Liselle Well-Known Member

    I read about that in our paper and it was very strange since the house has been sold and no more weirdness which seems to point to the fact that it was the girls who were attracting the activity. The fact that at least three people saw the girl walking up the wall backwards seems to make it more believable. Can't explain how she managed to do that but then some things in life are unexplainable.
     
  11. Christine62

    Christine62 Well-Known Member

    I do not believe in demon possession or evil from a being that is equal to God. All Good comes from God and all bad comes from us. Evil is a choice we humans make or a result of illness or lack of education etc. No one is born evil. God created us noble beings and also gave us free will and is hoping we choose wisely. It is because of our wrong choices individually and collectively that evil exists in the world. IE we spend a billion dollars on the super bowl every year instead of finding a cure for mental illness. We choose to allow guns in the hands of everyone and then are stunned when some mentally imbalanced ostracized soul kills 24 small children in a Elementary school because we as a nation were so busy with the superbowl or spending a gazillion dollars on political campaigns instead of channeling our resources to find out what will prevent mental illness or cure alzhiemers. Yes there is an enemy and he or she is US.
     
  12. Christine62

    Christine62 Well-Known Member

    I hear you, friend. The human brain does so freaky deaky things--no drugs required. I know from the inside out. But I fought my way out of that other world my mind created and am happy to say I am med free and I have learned strategies that have allowed me never to go back there.
     
  13. doowopgirl

    doowopgirl very avid fan

    I believe that some cases of 'possesion' or haunting are the result of suggestion. I do agree with what a lot of you have said here. Beleif in a higher being suggest an opposite. I do think a closed mind is the worst thing you can have.
     
  14. Christine62

    Christine62 Well-Known Member

    We can't know God--God is the UNKNOWABLE ESSENCE. The only way we can know God is through His Messengers most of which came before writing was invented but a few have left records, Moses, Zoroaster, Jesus, Muhammad, Krishna, Buddha etc. Now if you look at what they said as absolute truth then yeah I guess there is a boogyman but if you look at it as Relative Truth based on who they were teaching--very simple minded people. You can explain the science of thunder to a child with graphs and charts and math to go with it but you will get a deer in headlights--so you say "God is mad." or "Satan is screaming" or "It's a monster." We have science (which is a gift from God--all knowledge is) to explain things that used to be explained by Satan. And yes suggestion is a very very powerful thing--we just eat that **** up.
     
  15. Chuggs

    Chuggs Well-Known Member

    Suggestion is very powerful, as is the brain. God created all of us, whether or not he created good and evil or if they just are, as God just is, I don't know. To be good there must be evil. I think that there is probably such a thing as demon possession, and perhaps other things that can possess, both good and evil things. But I don't think that just anyone gets possessed. I think that most who get possessed open themselves up to it in one way or another. I don't worry about such things for me and my family because I am a believer in God and Jesus Christ. They protect us from such things. I pray that everyone receives such protection.
     
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  16. prufrock21

    prufrock21 Well-Known Member

    It happened to me after I read The Shining. Kept seeing that ghost lady in the bathtub.
     
  17. staropeace

    staropeace Richard Bachman's love child

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