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danie

I am whatever you say I am.
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Shasta

On his shell he holds the earth.
So, since a lot of people are talking about recycling and I happen to work in the plastics industry, I thought I'd shed a little insight.

A lot of things have the little recycle logo on them. This does NOT mean they can be recycled.

The Numbers on Plastic Bottles: What do Plastic Recycling Symbols Mean? | NationofChange

It really just depends on what your city/town/state can provide.

Also, a little known thing about recycling - often if something is treated, coated, or decorated in some way, it can't be recycled. For example, there is a company that makes shiny metalized plastic utensils. They have the recycling logo. Well, the plastic underneath can be recycled but once it has the treatment on it (called vacuum metalization), it can't be. And when plastics are mixed they can't be recycled, such as the very popular plastic, ABS/SAN. It's a mixture of two plastics. Once they are mixed they can't be un-mixed to recycle. Think oil and water.

So the moral of the story is this - stay away from plastic as much as you can. Even if it says it's recyclable.
 

Mr Nobody

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I'm thinking if garbage pickup ever gets too expensive, a lot more people will be more careful about what they throw out. Unfortunately a lot more people will dump stuff illegally.

This.
We're not charged for collections (not directly, anyway; we have a thing called Council Tax, which is collected by the local authority and goes towards paying for the police, fire service, and civic stuff), but most councils, in their wisdom, decided to only collect rubbish on a fortnightly basis - without making sure there was adequate infrastructure to replace the 'lost' service. (Recycling was already a requisite, but for most parts of the country, it was limited - paper and glass only for the most part, and even then it could be a case of 'No "shiny" paper or coloured glass'.)
Needless to say it didn't go well. Fly-tipping was and is a scourge in many a town, and the countryside...it's not uncommon to see bags of rubbish and even old armchairs or discarded sofas in lay-bys.
What it needed was a proper, well-considered plan of action to provide the necessary facilities and ease of access and then the implementation of new methods. What we got instead was much more of a 'grab-ass' way of going about it, authoritarian BS coming down because of the need to meet arbitrary targets by whenever, which in every case have ultimately been missed by the proverbial country mile.
Of course, the 'ordinary people' get to carry the can for 'not doing enough'. But tell me, how can anyone do more when the means are lacking?
It's a case of the Seven Ps, but the people who really matter couldn't organise a [soiree] in a brewery.

Grandpa - Thanks for that. I laughed 'til I cried, yet had a moment of feeling unutterably sad at the same time.
 

Mr Nobody

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It's nice and all, but...

1) Where's the field come from?
2) Where have the people come from?
3) What are they living on?
4) Are they really people?
5) The human race would still be on Earth (the thing floating above the field), so...
6) For all we know, the Earth is only a few feet in diameter, according to the perspective of something else.
7) For all we know, our Universe is only a few feet in diameter, according to the perspective of an outside observer (meaning our universe is a small object inside a larger universe - like a space hopper in a back garden).
 

Sundrop

Sunny the Great & Wonderful
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It's nice and all, but...

1) Where's the field come from?
2) Where have the people come from?
3) What are they living on?
4) Are they really people?
5) The human race would still be on Earth (the thing floating above the field), so...
6) For all we know, the Earth is only a few feet in diameter, according to the perspective of something else.
7) For all we know, our Universe is only a few feet in diameter, according to the perspective of an outside observer (meaning our universe is a small object inside a larger universe - like a space hopper in a back garden).
I prefer my version, thank you :cool:
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