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Dana Jean

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I just got back from the theater where I saw mother!

Wow. That was something. A little bit of everything in there including the kitchen sink.

Obviously a story about God and man, about the environment, about an artist and his fans -- lots of things to pull from this. It really does have this Rosemary's Baby feel to it, heaven, hell, God, Satan, life, death.

I would like to say, this was not only a visual movie in the sense that so much is going on to keep your eyes on, but it is heightened with audio sounds. NOT sound effects. If you see the movie, maybe you'll understand what I mean by that.

Movies of today have sound obviously. Scores, sound effects, the typical stuff-- but it was like these sounds were a character unto themselves. A scrapping bucket, a fizz of some powder in a cup, the turning on of a light. It was like every single sound was enhanced and heightened, but not in a sound effects way. They had their own merit. I know this is probably not making a lick of sense, but if you go see the movie, pay attention to the sound of the movie. I've always said that the settings and scenery are like another character to me besides the human ones. In this movie, the sounds are very much their own character.

The ending credits and the list of parts is very interesting, as is the pen scratching that relates to the movie itself.

This is a tough one to recommend. I liked it. I wish I had seen it with a group of people I could discuss it with and get their feelings for what they just saw and heard. But, there is a segment of people who will not like it for its religious overtones -- a lot of people want to be entertained, they don't want to have to think too much nor do they want to have to analyze what they just saw.

And, it will be very disturbing to many for one particular scene. Read if you want, but it is a spoiler.

Jennifer Lawrence (Mother) gives birth. Javier (Him) wants to show a crowd of people who have taken over his home, they want to see the baby. He presents it to the crowd and the crowd takes the baby and passes it overhead from hand to hand where its neck gets snapped. It ends up on an altar and the crowd eats it.

Again, my admiration for the sound man. I don't often say that about a movie, but this movie had it's own sound. And I'm not talking musical score.
 
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This is a tough one to recommend. I liked it. I wish I had seen it with a group of people I could discuss it with and get their feelings for what they just saw and heard. But, there is a segment of people who will not like it for its religious overtones -- a lot of people want to be entertained, they don't want to have to think too much nor do they want to have to analyze what they just saw.

I don't actually like going to the theater to see movies. (SK movies are always an exception.)

Is this one worth going to or should I just wait for the home release?
 

Dana Jean

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I don't actually like going to the theater to see movies. (SK movies are always an exception.)

Is this one worth going to or should I just wait for the home release?
I don't know you. So I can't say. All I can do is tell you to read what I said. I liked it. But, I like analyzing movies. I like films with layers of meaning. And it can be different meanings for everyone who sees it. No real right and wrong as it speaks to each person through their life filters. Their experiences. Their belief system. It is definitely unique and obviously a very choreographed piece that took great skill to pull off.
 

kingricefan

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I just got back from the theater where I saw mother!

Wow. That was something. A little bit of everything in there including the kitchen sink.

Obviously a story about God and man, about the environment, about an artist and his fans -- lots of things to pull from this. It really does have this Rosemary's Baby feel to it, heaven, hell, God, Satan, life, death.

I would like to say, this was not only a visual movie in the sense that so much is going on to keep your eyes on, but it is heightened with audio sounds. NOT sound effects. If you see the movie, maybe you'll understand what I mean by that.

Movies of today have sound obviously. Scores, sound effects, the typical stuff-- but it was like these sounds were a character unto themselves. A scrapping bucket, a fizz of some powder in a cup, the turning on of a light. It was like every single sound was enhanced and heightened, but not in a sound effects way. They had their own merit. I know this is probably not making a lick of sense, but if you go see the movie, pay attention to the sound of the movie. I've always said that the settings and scenery are like another character to me besides the human ones. In this movie, the sounds are very much their own character.

The ending credits and the list of parts is very interesting, as is the pen scratching that relates to the movie itself.

This is a tough one to recommend. I liked it. I wish I had seen it with a group of people I could discuss it with and get their feelings for what they just saw and heard. But, there is a segment of people who will not like it for its religious overtones -- a lot of people want to be entertained, they don't want to have to think too much nor do they want to have to analyze what they just saw.

And, it will be very disturbing to many for one particular scene. Read if you want, but it is a spoiler.

Jennifer Lawrence (Mother) gives birth. Javier (Him) wants to show a crowd of people who have taken over his home, they want to see the baby. He presents it to the crowd and the crowd takes the baby and passes it overhead from hand to hand where it's neck gets snapped. It ends up on an altar and the crowd eats it.

Again, my admiration for the sound man. I don't often say that about a movie, but this movie had it's own sound.
But how is Jennifer Lawrence's acting? I'm just asking because it's a horror movie and she's not known for that.
 

Dana Jean

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I don't actually like going to the theater to see movies. (SK movies are always an exception.)

Is this one worth going to or should I just wait for the home release?

Personally? I'm glad I went and saw it in the theater because of the sound. I know I''m not explaining that well, and I don't think I would have even given it a thought had I watched it on my TV at home. But in the theater, with enhanced speaker capabilities -- I'm sure it's just me. I was just giddy about how the sound of the movie was as important as the acting and scenery.

And something I found so interesting and important may end up being irritating to someone else, or they might not hear what I do and think nothing of it.
 

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I just got back from the theater where I saw mother!

Wow. That was something. A little bit of everything in there including the kitchen sink.

Obviously a story about God and man, about the environment, about an artist and his fans -- lots of things to pull from this. It really does have this Rosemary's Baby feel to it, heaven, hell, God, Satan, life, death.

I would like to say, this was not only a visual movie in the sense that so much is going on to keep your eyes on, but it is heightened with audio sounds. NOT sound effects. If you see the movie, maybe you'll understand what I mean by that.

Movies of today have sound obviously. Scores, sound effects, the typical stuff-- but it was like these sounds were a character unto themselves. A scrapping bucket, a fizz of some powder in a cup, the turning on of a light. It was like every single sound was enhanced and heightened, but not in a sound effects way. They had their own merit. I know this is probably not making a lick of sense, but if you go see the movie, pay attention to the sound of the movie. I've always said that the settings and scenery are like another character to me besides the human ones. In this movie, the sounds are very much their own character.

The ending credits and the list of parts is very interesting, as is the pen scratching that relates to the movie itself.

This is a tough one to recommend. I liked it. I wish I had seen it with a group of people I could discuss it with and get their feelings for what they just saw and heard. But, there is a segment of people who will not like it for its religious overtones -- a lot of people want to be entertained, they don't want to have to think too much nor do they want to have to analyze what they just saw.

And, it will be very disturbing to many for one particular scene. Read if you want, but it is a spoiler.

Jennifer Lawrence (Mother) gives birth. Javier (Him) wants to show a crowd of people who have taken over his home, they want to see the baby. He presents it to the crowd and the crowd takes the baby and passes it overhead from hand to hand where it's neck gets snapped. It ends up on an altar and the crowd eats it.

Again, my admiration for the sound man. I don't often say that about a movie, but this movie had it's own sound. And I'm not talking musical score.

Hey cool, thanks. I will check this out in cinema. Aronofsky always does some weird stuff, but his are movies entertaining.
 

kingricefan

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Personally? I'm glad I went and saw it in the theater because of the sound. I know I''m not explaining that well, and I don't think I would have even given it a thought had I watched it on my TV at home. But in the theater, with enhanced speaker capabilities -- I'm sure it's just me. I was just giddy about how the sound of the movie was as important as the acting and scenery.

And something I found so interesting and important may end up being irritating to someone else, or they might not hear what I do and think nothing of it.
How are you about David Lynch movies? Sound is amazingly important to him when he makes his films. Sound really is a separate character to him.
 

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I just got back from the theater where I saw mother!

Wow. That was something. A little bit of everything in there including the kitchen sink.

Obviously a story about God and man, about the environment, about an artist and his fans -- lots of things to pull from this. It really does have this Rosemary's Baby feel to it, heaven, hell, God, Satan, life, death.

I would like to say, this was not only a visual movie in the sense that so much is going on to keep your eyes on, but it is heightened with audio sounds. NOT sound effects. If you see the movie, maybe you'll understand what I mean by that.

Movies of today have sound obviously. Scores, sound effects, the typical stuff-- but it was like these sounds were a character unto themselves. A scrapping bucket, a fizz of some powder in a cup, the turning on of a light. It was like every single sound was enhanced and heightened, but not in a sound effects way. They had their own merit. I know this is probably not making a lick of sense, but if you go see the movie, pay attention to the sound of the movie. I've always said that the settings and scenery are like another character to me besides the human ones. In this movie, the sounds are very much their own character.

The ending credits and the list of parts is very interesting, as is the pen scratching that relates to the movie itself.

This is a tough one to recommend. I liked it. I wish I had seen it with a group of people I could discuss it with and get their feelings for what they just saw and heard. But, there is a segment of people who will not like it for its religious overtones -- a lot of people want to be entertained, they don't want to have to think too much nor do they want to have to analyze what they just saw.

And, it will be very disturbing to many for one particular scene. Read if you want, but it is a spoiler.

Jennifer Lawrence (Mother) gives birth. Javier (Him) wants to show a crowd of people who have taken over his home, they want to see the baby. He presents it to the crowd and the crowd takes the baby and passes it overhead from hand to hand where it's neck gets snapped. It ends up on an altar and the crowd eats it.

Again, my admiration for the sound man. I don't often say that about a movie, but this movie had it's own sound. And I'm not talking musical score.

I'm in! I was intrigued by the trailer but after your review, I'm all in! I was thinking I need to bathe the dog and vacuum tomorrow, but this is a much better idea. I like all the players and I've been wondering what pulled Michelle Pfeiffer back onto the screen (or have I missed a movie?).

And I did NOT read the spoiler, but did you know - because I didn't until just now- if there's a spoiler in a post and you quote it - you can see the spoiler? But I'm not looking - I just saw it's open. I'm not going to blow it. I love surprises in movies. I think I was the only person in the group I was with that hadn't heard The Sixth Sense spoiler. I was appropriately shocked.

I'll be back to discuss soon.

Edit: you can only see the spoiler as you type your reply.
 

Dana Jean

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I'm in! I was intrigued by the trailer but after your review, I'm all in! I was thinking I need to bathe the dog and vacuum tomorrow, but this is a much better idea. I like all the players and I've been wondering what pulled Michelle Pfeiffer back onto the screen (or have I missed a movie?).

And I did NOT read the spoiler, but did you know - because I didn't until just now- if there's a spoiler in a post and you quote it - you can see the spoiler? But I'm not looking - I just saw it's open. I'm not going to blow it. I love surprises in movies. I think I was the only person in the group I was with that hadn't heard The Sixth Sense spoiler. I was appropriately shocked.

I'll be back to discuss soon.

It's a tough scene friend, so just know that. From the minute the scene starts, it's hard to watch because you know it is going to end badly. Can't wait to hear what you have to say. Hopefully kingricefan and Steffen will both go see it too. Then we can get a real discussion going.

And others too, of course.
 

HollyGolightly

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It's a tough scene friend, so just know that. From the minute the scene starts, it's hard to watch because you know it is going to end badly. Can't wait to hear what you have to say. Hopefully kingricefan and Steffen will both go see it too. Then we can get a real discussion going.
I wish I had it in me to put on my bra and go now. It's showing in 15 mins at the theatre 2 mins from my house. But I need to be more awake. I thought it had sort of a Rosemary's Baby vibe to it. Is it horror?
 

Dana Jean

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I wish I had it in me to put on my bra and go now. It's showing in 15 mins at the theatre 2 mins from my house. But I need to be more awake. I thought it had sort of a Rosemary's Baby vibe to it. Is it horror?
It could be labeled many things. Horror, thriller, allegory, fable, fantasy -- I think it depends on who sees it. What feelings they get from it.
 

Steffen

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It's a tough scene friend, so just know that. From the minute the scene starts, it's hard to watch because you know it is going to end badly. Can't wait to hear what you have to say. Hopefully kingricefan and Steffen will both go see it too. Then we can get a real discussion going.

And others too, of course.

Just checked the "coming soon" section of my local cineplex's website but not seeing it yet. Will definitely keep my eyes open for this one.
 

Dana Jean

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Dana Jean, you have me convinced. My next movie going excursion will be to see this in the theater.
It's a bit surreal, artsy -- I don't know. I appreciated the creativity.

Again, we watch Jennifer move through the environment and react and we watch the environment act UPON her. I am definitely hoping more of you guys will see it so I can take in your viewpoints.

Listening to everyone's ideas will give me a much fuller experience.
 

Dana Jean

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Well, it is very artistic. If you don't appreciate that, you won't like it.

I'm curious who and where they polled for that rating.

I am sure, very intelligent people could go and loathe it, but my guess is not so intelligent people didn't get it. Didn't want to try to get it. If you are an intelligent person and you see this movie and hate it, then you are not in the category of the not so intelligent. Just heading things off right now in that regard.

Like I said above, most movie goers want to be entertained, they don't want to turn a night at the movies into a philosophical discussion. So, I can see it flopping.

I stand by my feelings. I liked it. I thought it was interesting and I know there are layers and layers to this thing just waiting for the right person to add their thoughts and reveal something new.

And marketed wrong, no. Maybe it was just me, but I got a real good feel about the movie in the preview. I knew what road we were going down with it and I thought it was obvious.
 
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