Remembering D-Day.

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DiO'Bolic

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Also remember the 3,000 French civilians who were killed in the first 24 hours of the operation. And I think it should be noted that many non-nazi German soldiers were forced to fight or suffer the penalty of death. My father had great respect for many of them who were taken back to the US as POW’s. So many were happy to be out of the war, and didn’t want any part of it to begin with.
 

DiO'Bolic

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Charles Durning, who starred in Desperation (the 2006 TV movie -- Stephen King wrote the novel and teleplay) landed at Omaha Beach in the D-Day invasion. Later he was wounded in an ambush during the Battle of the Bulge. He was captured, escaped, and narrowly missed assassination at the Malmedy Massacre. He won three Purple Hearts and the Silver Star in WWII.

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Charles Durning, who starred in Desperation (the 2006 TV movie -- Stephen King wrote the novel and teleplay) landed at Omaha Beach in the D-Day invasion. Later he was wounded in an ambush during the Battle of the Bulge. He was captured, escaped, and narrowly missed assassination at the Malmedy Massacre. He won three Purple Hearts and the Silver Star in WWII.

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Loved him in "Tootsie" - he is a great character actor :smile:
 

ghost19

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A different generation of Americans fought in that war. You can see it when you talk to them, and hear it when they tell their stories. To all forces who fought in that monumental event in history, there are no words to express our thanks and gratitude. A virtual toast to the survivors and the fallen at the beaches of Omaha, Utah, Sword, Juno, and Gold. You are not forgotten.
 

ghost19

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My dad was in the navy during D Day. He did not go in on the first day, but the second day. His job was to pick up the bodies. He said there were snipers still shooting at them while they tried to retrieve their soldiers.
I wish I could have been there to counter that sniper fire. Your father is part of the bravest generation of soldiers and sailors there ever was, are, or ever will be.
 

Dana Jean

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I wish I could have been there to counter that sniper fire. Your father is part of the bravest generation of soldiers and sailors there ever was, are, or ever will be.
When I see pictures of his friends in their little goofy uniforms ( and yes, sorry, but those old navy uniforms were goofy!), I just see such young guys. Such young faces. Everything they went through -- I can't even begin to imagine. My dad didn't talk much about the war. He would tell the funny stories, but pretty well avoided the darker aspects.
 

ghost19

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When I see pictures of his friends in their little goofy uniforms ( and yes, sorry, but those old navy uniforms were goofy!), I just see such young guys. Such young faces. Everything they went through -- I can't even begin to imagine. My dad didn't talk much about the war. He would tell the funny stories, but pretty well avoided the darker aspects.
Yeah, those old uniforms were a bit strange and quirky looking. My grandfather was a .50 cal gunner on a destroyer in the Pacific campaign. His ship was blown in half by a kamikaze pilot whose plane hit the destroyer amidships right below the water line during the Battle of Okinawa. My grandfather had several pieces of shrapnel lodged in his back for the rest of his life. His way of self medicating was to down a six pack before lunch time but his stories were amazing. I was the only grandkid who was interested in history so he'd drink, and talk, and drink, and talk as long as I would sit there and listen to him. He enlisted in the navy about a year before Pearl Harbor so he saw a lot of action.
 

Dana Jean

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Yeah, those old uniforms were a bit strange and quirky looking. My grandfather was a .50 cal gunner on a destroyer in the Pacific campaign. His ship was blown in half by a kamikaze pilot whose plane hit the destroyer amidships right below the water line during the Battle of Okinawa. My grandfather had several pieces of shrapnel lodged in his back for the rest of his life. His way of self medicating was to down a six pack before lunch time but his stories were amazing. I was the only grandkid who was interested in history so he'd drink, and talk, and drink, and talk as long as I would sit there and listen to him. He enlisted in the navy about a year before Pearl Harbor so he saw a lot of action.
I think I had an uncle on the ground in Okinawa, in the pacific somewhere anyway. He was in a foxhole or behind a hill of sand or something with 2 of his buddies and both of them got blown up in front of him and sprayed him with their body parts. He needed intense psychiatric help after that. He was a normal guy, but you didn't talk about the war with him.
 

kingzeppelin

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Also remember the 3,000 French civilians who were killed in the first 24 hours of the operation. And I think it should be noted that many non-nazi German soldiers were forced to fight or suffer the penalty of death. My father had great respect for many of them who were taken back to the US as POW’s. So many were happy to be out of the war, and didn’t want any part of it to begin with.

This German soldier's story emphasises your point;

BBC News - The German soldier 'liberated' by D-Day
 

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My family has pretty much missed out on war. My grandfather was never in - I think he would've been on the old side for WWI. My dad was too young for WWII, but he enlisted in the brand-new U.S. Air Force after that war, and his enlistment was extended when Korea started up. He spent his war time at a base in Japan. I sweated out my draft number, got lucky with a high number, and then joined the Marines anyway, just after Vietnam. Our son was in the Marines, but between Gulf Wars, and did some bivouac time being part of the tripwire in Kuwait if Saddam had decided to get ugly again.

I remember an "Uncle Charlie," but I don't think he was actually related. I didn't see him much. He had been a Marine in the 1st Marine Division and had been on Guadalcanal and Okinawa, both very tough fights, and came back after he took a round in the shoulder on Okinawa. He had some interesting stories, but an "interesting story" out of war usually means someone's son is getting killed.

I have nothing but complete respect for those who gave so much of themselves, including their lives, to bring meaning from words of the last verse of the Star Spangled Banner:

"O thus be it ever when free men shall stand
Between their loved home and the war's desolation."
 

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Charles Durning, who starred in Desperation (the 2006 TV movie -- Stephen King wrote the novel and teleplay) landed at Omaha Beach in the D-Day invasion. Later he was wounded in an ambush during the Battle of the Bulge. He was captured, escaped, and narrowly missed assassination at the Malmedy Massacre. He won three Purple Hearts and the Silver Star in WWII.

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Man. I know It is 70 years ago today re: d-day but please spare a thought for all those brave men and women who died for our freedom for freedom from tyranny the french resistance and The members of the SOE(special Operations executive which was set up by Churchill and i quote "to set Europe ablaze") The codebreakers at blethchely park. The soe was the forerunner to mi5 or Mi6 will someone tell me in baby english which is whcih. The Lrdg -(long range Desert Group - not quite the SAS(set up early in the war) who went behind enemy lines to disrupt the Germans. The commandos who if caught by the Wehermacht were shot. In the Geneva conventation, when there is a war no warring country should don the other country uniform. The americans had the OSS set up by 'Wild Bill Donovan' and is now known today as the CIA. To all these and anybody i omitted, Thank you.

P.S. There is a film made in the 50's or so Starring Virginia Mckenna as a polish SOE agent. She was caught doing what she believe in and was Machine gunned to death. Her husband was in the army and died. The Daughter of the agent Received a medal form the King at Buckinham Palance. The film is called 'Carve her name with Pride'. I have yet to read the book.
 

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Gives you a whole different perspective, doesn't it?
yes, it does. this chap was probably Wehermach. An ordinary german who was consciprted. There is a difference between the Wehermach(sorry spelling ) and The Gestapo and The SS. The Subliminal Creatures were sadistic and mudering B******. Rommer - brillant Strateigst had a little war with montogomery very interesting. Rommel was prussian - i.e loved his country and did the honourable thing. in 44/45 he was give a choice to take poison and have a warrior's funeral or be shot as a traitor. he chose the honourable way out for his family. His Crime: Being part of a conspiracy to kill The deranged, mass murderer Hitler.

I heard a story relation to the liberation of the jews in Germany, British troops (hardened battle toucgh) were Crying at the pitiful skeltons barely alive. two things happened. First the soldiers gave the Prisoners there rations and the prisoners - not eating for so long - died. 2 a british sergeant Warned a young troop 'Not to do it again' when the solider saw what the Gestapo/ss did to them. He shot a guard who came up to surrender in cold blood. There was such raw emotion for prisoneers and for the soldiers liberatng them. I would like to think, if i was around then i would have done exactly the same thing as that trooper.

I did the inter-rail 20 years agos, 4/5 years after the fall of the Berlin Wall, we went to muich and we Visited Dachau Concentration Camp. I was in a good mood before i went in, when i went through the gate, i swore i felt like i was walking on the grave of dead campmates. I seen the 4 bunks- 2 to a bed, i was in the Gas chamber with my friend and i said 50 years ago people was gassed here. It was surreal and very emotional. anybody who wasn't moved is hard hearted and has no emotion. I do not want to visit any concentration camp again, but is necessary for future generation to prevent this genocide happening on such a scale again.
 

Kurben

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know what you mean about the feeling. It is a strange thing that falls over you as you visit a camp. Haven't been to Dachau but i've been to Auschwitz. Very strange feeling. Seeing these bags, those heaps of goldteeth, All the rest. I've went on a vacation to Krakow in Poland. Very beautiful city. It wasn't bombed during the war for some reason. Not Like Warsaw. Auschwitz is just a bit outside the city. A daytrip.. And that sign, as you enter the camp, Arbeit macht frei (about "Work will make you free). But i'm afraid many youths today are starting to forget. And this is something that we can't allow us to forget!. I live in Sweden. We haven't been to war for 200 years. Sometimes i'm proud of it and sometimes a little ashamed, at least when it comes to the second world war.
 

booklover72

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Hi Kurben

It is a very very weird feeling going into a camp, maybe it was my imagination, but i felt like the whispers of the prisoners as i walked through. no feeling can express what i felt. If i remeber they built Ghettos in either Warsaw or Krakow. Hey The irish stayed neutral during WWII Churchill asked for help, DeValera was 'promised' by Hitler we would have a united ireland. When a man who Makes Jews wear yellow stars etc 'Kristallnacht' does that to people, he will certainly not be bothered for breaking a promise. I am proud of my grandfather(RIP Dick) who joined the RAF, he was good enough to be a spitfire(brillant plane, won the battle of britain') pilot but he met my grandmother, so he guided the spitfire pilots in. 100,000 irishman fought in that war, and only just recently have they been honoured by our so called government for their bravery and their moral courage. I am sick of the stupid violence in this country. The youth of today, forget about d-day, they don't know who Alfred Hitchcock or stan or ollie is. There is only an handful of surviour from WWII left, when they meet their maker, who will remember their bravery. the generation of the 70;s are shallow, getting drunk, earning morning, cheap sex(rather then making love to her)
Sometimes i feel like i a from a different planet with my ideals.