The Walking Dead ***please use SPOILER tags***

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skimom2

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Ya know, I find it quite funny that people find it so difficult to suspend a little disbelief in a show about a freakin' zombie apocalypse...because that scenario is extremely realistic and factual based. :biggrin2: Anyway, personally I've found the last two episodes have been extremely well written, and I like the direction the show has taken. It's a nice change of pace to see that this group of people aren't always fighting imminent danger from other survivors/walkuhs, but that merely surviving every day and searching for food/water/shelter is a constant threat that could very easily kill them if they don't succeed in acquiring those basic things we all take for granted.

Sure we can all nitpick about why Maggie didn't try the car, etc etc, but I took away a deeper message from that scenario. Maggie is grieving for her sister, she is in shock and angry at a world/disease that has taken away all of her blood family. When she opened the trunk of the car and found the walkuh its resemblance to Beth was eerie...they were of a similar build/frame/dressed alike/hair colour, etc...she had to re-open the trunk not only to retain her humanity by putting the poor creature out of it's misery, but it was cathartic, like she was laying the "ghost" of Beth to rest. Yes her sister is dead, but at least she knows Beth will never become a walkuh and suffer like that girl in the trunk, who at one time was also somebody's daughter/sister/niece etc. What's the point in fighting to survive if you can't retain your humanity?

And also, whoopdedoo, the barn they were sleeping in wasn't swept away a~la~wizard of oz...for me that scenario depicted the strength they possess when they all stick together and face things head on as a team. There are people in the group who consider themselves weaker, and fear they may not be built for survival, but when it really matters they all play a part in keeping danger at bay for as long as possible...even if it simply comes down to them ALL applying their collective weight/strength against some barn doors to keep the bad gunky outside.

I could actually discuss these last two episodes in depth, because there is a lot that has happened when you look/think beneath what you see on the surface. Yet I guess this is just further proof we all take different things away from the same experience. Where some people are bored and nitpick/want action, I've seen the emotional aspect and have found the last two episodes to be truly heart-rendering and have cried real tears... but each to their own. :smile2:

I liked them, too. This show is really walking a fine line, as far as TV is concerned: action and violence on one side (and what many people are looking for), and a study of people and what makes them tick on the other, and that's a harder sell. Personally, I like the inner directed episodes. Zombies are interesting, in the abstract, but people fascinate me.

Maggie is in such a desperate condition right now, and I didn't find her actions at all out of the scope of possibility. She's in shock, pure and simple, and deep, deep grief. I thought the writers had her explain it well to Glenn. It's all catching up to them, now, and that doesn't seem wrong to me, either. This is the first time in a very long time that they haven't been on the run toward or away from something or someone. Now they have the time to feel the miles, feel the hunger and thirst, the loss and loneliness. They're shambling toward Bethlehem, to borrow a phrase, and at the ragged edge of humanity. What hit me hard was Glenn--he's been the hopeful little sparrow for so long, and now he's ready to throw in the towel. Really, Rick is the next logical person to take up the torch off faith: he has to believe that there is a future, because he's got kids. He's had his freak out, remember. Now every ounce of his strength and will and heart is for Carl and Judith.

The barn scene, though a little hokey with Daryl, Maggie, and Sasha, the ones with the least hope, being the first ones to hold back the Zs, was effective at what it was trying to do: a somewhat clumsy symbolic scene (and definitely worty of a comic) of them pulling together against huge odds. Maggie and Sasha even commented on the miracle of them surviving the storm. I think it was Sasha who said, "We shouldn't be alive." (or something like that).

Screw being jaded. I like hopefulness and I love a underdog never giving up. As song as the story isn't completely outlandish or the actions completely out of character, I'll follow them right along. Kirkman can have every bit of my crusty little heart (with a marshmallow center).
 

Mr Nobody

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Actually I didn't dismiss anything, yet merely stated what I felt personally. :smile2: As I said there is a lot more I could say about this show, and would like to, but looking through the thread last night I realised this just isn't the place for me to actively participate in future discussions.

Hold yer hosses, madam! It's a free forum, right? If you've got things you'd like to say or discuss, say them. They're just as valid (and possibly more so) than other comments (mine included...or perhaps mine especially! ;)).
If folks disagree from time to time...well so what? It shouldn't be a big deal. It certainly isn't when there's agreement. (And I was once a member of a forum where dissent was dismissed to the point of not being allowed. Once everyone was in broad agreement and it just became an 'Oh whistle, and I'll nod along with you, my lad' club, the community very quickly fell apart. Groups need differing, and strong, opinions. Plus civility.)
Of course I can't make you post anything, nor would I even if I could. 'Sup to you. But I wish you would and hope you will.
 

skimom2

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I think it would be interesting to see how Carl's actions/behavior might be different if his mom was around. Do you think he'd be less mature? Would he have even survived?

I think he would surely still be alive, but likely less mature. Easier to stay young with two adults looking out for you and your little sister--now he has a lot of responsibility. He's not really a kid anymore, and hasn't been for a while.
 

Lepplady

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I think that everyone is free to discuss...It is okay to disagree or agree with what people say. Everyone's discussion is valued in my opinion.
Mine too. I hope everybody hangs around.
Am I understanding this correctly? It’s now Season 5, and they’ve been walking and driving in their trek since the beginning. They started out in Georgia and are on their way to DC, and have yet to get out of Georgia?
They spent a season living in a jail. But, yeah. They're pretty much wandering around. Getting nowhere.
 

arista

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Am I understanding this correctly? It’s now Season 5, and they’ve been walking and driving in their trek since the beginning. They started out in Georgia and are on their way to DC, and have yet to get out of Georgia?
Well, they spent a season at the farm and then another couple of seasons in the prison.
 

DiO'Bolic

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Well, they spent a season at the farm and then another couple of seasons in the prison.
True, but they’ve also been driving numerous times over the seasons. I’ve been to Georgia many a time and it’s no black hole that doesn’t allow you to escape. At this rate it will be Season 12 before they get to the
Alexandria Safe-Zone
:)
 

arista

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True, but they’ve also been driving numerous times over the seasons. I’ve been to Georgia many a time and it’s no black hole that doesn’t allow you to escape. At this rate it will be Season 12 before they get to the
Alexandria Safe-Zone
:)
It is during a ZA LOL!!!