I miss that one, I have to admit.
The Walking Dead ***please use SPOILER tags***
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Y'all get the tomatoes, rotten vegetables and rocks ready to chuck at me.
Yes. Yes it was a very exciting episode. I understand it's fiction and made up and yadda yadda yadda. I think what's messing me up is the show used to be written in a believable way (as much as a zombie show could be believable). Good or bad it was believable IMO.
Again, it was a Yay! episode but....
Rick would never allow Father Gabrielle to take Judith. Unbelievable. (I know they did that so we would all be anxious about Judith and not see Carl's injury coming up.)
It was a GREAT show for everyone, including Eugene and Fr. Gabe, to get out there chopping down walkers with half-mad Rick. Unbelievable. Michone would have gone out and got stricken horrified Rick back inside. (Yes, I know it brings everyone together and makes them more ready to fight.-Fight Negan. If Daryll hadn't set the lake on fire they would have been, literally up against the wall and walkers would have killed them all. So much for injured Carl and baby Judith.)
Glenn is AGAIN about to die by walkers but since there isn't a dumpsterSasha and Abraham come in the nick of time. All head shots without hitting Glenn. Deus ex machina much?
I liked the episode. I did. But if the emperor isn't wearing clothes....
Let the rock throwing commence!
No rocks from me. I agree.
Yeah. I'm bad.
Somehow, I heard this from Zoey instead of Denise.
So, did Negan really...
... die, or was that just one of his gang, and Negan was actually in the mysterious car in the background?
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That was his gang. He will be back.
Also, I read an article that said there is going to be a time jump this season. I would think it's going to happen now or very soon so that Carl can heal and they can rebuild the community (if they are rebuilding Alexandria but it looks that way to me)
Also, I read an article that said there is going to be a time jump this season. I would think it's going to happen now or very soon so that Carl can heal and they can rebuild the community (if they are rebuilding Alexandria but it looks that way to me)
If there is a time jump, it will help Judith look more her age. Only a couple of days have passed since episode 1, but she looks like she aged a year or more. 
I think that we will be seeing a very different Carl. (Not Carl, because I don't think he will see it 
I think that we will be seeing a very different Carl. (Not Carl, because I don't think he will see it
I haven't read the graphic novels (and now I want to but at the same time I don't want to either because I want the show to surprise me) so I'm not sure where the story goes in the novels, but I don't think that another eye patch is a coincidence.
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Check out Chandler Riggs' recent twitter posts (Major spoiler if you haven't seen the latest episode)
THAT WAS AN ABSOLUTELY AWESOME HOUR!!!!
Not
Negan. He won't show up until the end of the season.
Working with kids SUCKS. Adults stay the same for years, but those little suckers INSIST on growing and changing (lol)That was his gang. He will be back.
Also, I read an article that said there is going to be a time jump this season. I would think it's going to happen now or very soon so that Carl can heal and they can rebuild the community (if they are rebuilding Alexandria but it looks that way to me)
If there is a time jump, it will help Judith look more her age. Only a couple of days have passed since episode 1, but she looks like she aged a year or more.
There are enough differences that it's worth both reading and watching.
Spoilers ahead.
Dear Walking Dead scriptwriters:
Next time you give Rick a girlfriend, make sure she sticks around for more than one season.
I imagined the
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Dear Walking Dead scriptwriters:
Next time you give Rick a girlfriend, make sure she sticks around for more than one season.
I imagined the
bazooka exploding scene long before it happened.
Will we now call Daryl Dixon
Will we now call Daryl Dixon
"Bazooka Daryl"?
Rick's baby was
obviously frightened. No doubt the parents gave their consent, but it was harrowing there for a while
I, um,
bled for her
Thank you for finally giving Eugene and the Reverend some
spine
Can a Wolf redeem himself or herself?
Apparently he or she can
Thanks for
the return of the "fire" zombies
. And
thanks also for a very
thanks also for a very
intense
episode.
I'm a bit behind because I only caught the ep last night. (Gf had wanted to watch The X Files instead, then sat there taking the mick and criticizing what I thought was a good ep with strong X Files DNA, but there you go).
But what can I say about that post? Spot on. Personally I like most of the eps where the characters get to breathe and let us know who they are. Just lately it's been like a lot of them are defined only by an event or circumstance, and that's not the same thing as character. It might provide a little indication, but with nothing else to go on you're never allowed to know whether it's in or out of their normal "jes' folks" persona.
Re: Jessie and the kids - I have to say I was a bit miffed. That really seemed like something that could/should have happened at the end of the mid-season finale. And just what was that montage sequence about when Jessie got liberally nibbled? As you said, we didn't know enough about her to really care. For that reason, and to see how she'd react to the death of her kid(s), I'd have kept her in...at least for a little while. That said, IMDB tells me she was in it for 14 eps. 14! And we knew sod all about her! Compare that to Morgan (21 eps) and Dale (20 eps, apparently) and it's clear that the ball is being dropped somewhere as far as good characterisation/storytelling goes.
For the rest of the ep:
It seemed like a bit of a mini-cull, almost as if someone had realized it was getting written into a bag in too many areas. I'm not entirely convinced that the first RPG wouldn't have blown the gas truck to bits as well as the bikers (leaving one bike surprisingly intact, which a weapon designed to take out armour...well, it just wouldn't), nor am I convinced about the second one detonating on contact with water. The bank, oh hell yes, of course. But not water. And why did Mr D use an RPG to do a plain old Zippo's job? "Budget? Aw, to hell with the budget, man.")
But, the cull-of-sorts. I think we all knew that Sam was gone, one way or the other. I don't buy Jessie just standing there like a bit of limp lettuce, but whatever. The Wolf was better characterized than she was, in the end, and his little moment of redemption and ultimate sacrifice was well done on the whole, as was the moment when Morgan found him and got to be the one to finally put him down. Maybe that's another little lesson learning for him (though I was convinced Morgan was a goner, too).
Carl's dead! Well, he isn't, but he should be if that 9mm round really went through his eye dead-on. Nothing to stop it, nice hole where the back of his head used to be. Even if it was a glancing effort, it would have done damage to the side of his head. The only other possibility I can think of is that the bullet missed and it was the tip of Michonne's sword that did the damage. It wasn't overly clear. Either way, stick him on the wall or in a tower. He can keep an eye out.
I suppose all of this was done to clear the decks in preparation for Negan, but if so at least one of the bikers should have escaped or been sent back by the leader to pass on the news. As it is, the people Negan sends out to look for the Idiot Crew aren't going to find anything to tell them who did what, so how is he meant to know about Alexandria (since there's been no mention of previous contact, unless the Wolves are really a part of his group)? And even if he does know, there's no way of knowing that they were the ones who killed his people, so what then? I predict fairly dire things in store for Daryl if Negan does find out, though.
Oh, and Glenn needs to stop with the last minute escapes already. The whole 'unusual dumpster' thing was bad enough - most of them I've seen only have a few inches of clearance at best, nowhere near enough room for an adult male to crawl under (or even an infant, come to that); in the thing, fine, if you must. Under...nope, because it's one thing to kill the zeds around the head end, but nothing was stopping them from making a meal of his feet and shins. Either way, that whole dumpster thing was dumb, dumb, dumb, and the 'suspense' about as genuine and thrilling as the S.2 "Hey yo, what's in that barn you keep showing while going on about zeds and the kid?" BS - but what do you know? Glenn's off being dumb again, but up pops Sasha and Abraham to save his daft arse at the last minute. (If that wasn't a cavalry (or unit derived from cavalry) uniform Abraham was wearing, it should have been. Only thing missing was a bugler sounding the charge.)
None of that is really intended as a moan. It was a stronger ep than pretty much any or all of the first half of the season. But it's for that reason, along with a general lack of characterisation and an ongoing rush through storylines - usually as box-checking against the comic books, it seems - that I think it's starting to feel the pull of the drain. Next season it might well start circling it in earnest.
But, the cull-of-sorts. I think we all knew that Sam was gone, one way or the other. I don't buy Jessie just standing there like a bit of limp lettuce, but whatever. The Wolf was better characterized than she was, in the end, and his little moment of redemption and ultimate sacrifice was well done on the whole, as was the moment when Morgan found him and got to be the one to finally put him down. Maybe that's another little lesson learning for him (though I was convinced Morgan was a goner, too).
Carl's dead! Well, he isn't, but he should be if that 9mm round really went through his eye dead-on. Nothing to stop it, nice hole where the back of his head used to be. Even if it was a glancing effort, it would have done damage to the side of his head. The only other possibility I can think of is that the bullet missed and it was the tip of Michonne's sword that did the damage. It wasn't overly clear. Either way, stick him on the wall or in a tower. He can keep an eye out.
I suppose all of this was done to clear the decks in preparation for Negan, but if so at least one of the bikers should have escaped or been sent back by the leader to pass on the news. As it is, the people Negan sends out to look for the Idiot Crew aren't going to find anything to tell them who did what, so how is he meant to know about Alexandria (since there's been no mention of previous contact, unless the Wolves are really a part of his group)? And even if he does know, there's no way of knowing that they were the ones who killed his people, so what then? I predict fairly dire things in store for Daryl if Negan does find out, though.
Oh, and Glenn needs to stop with the last minute escapes already. The whole 'unusual dumpster' thing was bad enough - most of them I've seen only have a few inches of clearance at best, nowhere near enough room for an adult male to crawl under (or even an infant, come to that); in the thing, fine, if you must. Under...nope, because it's one thing to kill the zeds around the head end, but nothing was stopping them from making a meal of his feet and shins. Either way, that whole dumpster thing was dumb, dumb, dumb, and the 'suspense' about as genuine and thrilling as the S.2 "Hey yo, what's in that barn you keep showing while going on about zeds and the kid?" BS - but what do you know? Glenn's off being dumb again, but up pops Sasha and Abraham to save his daft arse at the last minute. (If that wasn't a cavalry (or unit derived from cavalry) uniform Abraham was wearing, it should have been. Only thing missing was a bugler sounding the charge.)
None of that is really intended as a moan. It was a stronger ep than pretty much any or all of the first half of the season. But it's for that reason, along with a general lack of characterisation and an ongoing rush through storylines - usually as box-checking against the comic books, it seems - that I think it's starting to feel the pull of the drain. Next season it might well start circling it in earnest.
I'm convinced that bit was filmed for the mid season and they decided to keep it back for suspense sake. Dumb.
Yup. The cast is too big, especially when they add new characters later this season. I think more are going down soon.
This has an explanation. If you watch the scene again, way in the background there is a car that slowly pulls across the road right after the blast. SOMEONE was watching what happened. Maybe Negan himself, likely a henchman.
Completely agree. One, maybe two more seasons. Just like Kirkman and Darabont originally planned. They're not stupid men. AMC might try to pound the expired equine for another season past that, but it would be a shame.[/QUOTE]
There has been some stuff posted on the internet that they think it might have been Negan in the car. or could have been a filming mistake.
Must admit that I didn't spot the car in the background. My eyes are dim, my knees are knackered, etc etc (or however it actually goes). 