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RichardX

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Anyone who enjoys nonfiction might give this one a try. It's by Timothy Egan. A very readable account of the incredible "dust bowl" storms in the Midwest during the 1930's. Almost biblical in size and destructive force. Static electricity could knock people to the ground when they touched. Livestock would choke to death on the dust. The greatest natural disaster in the history of the US. One such storm churned up more dirt in a single afternoon than the entire Panama Canal project which lasted years. It would swallow people and towns.
 

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Anyone who enjoys nonfiction might give this one a try. It's by Timothy Egan. A very readable account of the incredible "dust bowl" storms in the Midwest during the 1930's. Almost biblical in size and destructive force. Static electricity could knock people to the ground when they touched. Livestock would choke to death on the dust. The greatest natural disaster in the history of the US. One such storm churned up more dirt in a single afternoon than the entire Panama Canal project which lasted years. It would swallow people and towns.
It sounds terrifying!
 

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Anyone who enjoys nonfiction might give this one a try. It's by Timothy Egan. A very readable account of the incredible "dust bowl" storms in the Midwest during the 1930's. Almost biblical in size and destructive force. Static electricity could knock people to the ground when they touched. Livestock would choke to death on the dust. The greatest natural disaster in the history of the US. One such storm churned up more dirt in a single afternoon than the entire Panama Canal project which lasted years. It would swallow people and towns.
And yet, the Joads survived.
 

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Anyone who enjoys nonfiction might give this one a try. It's by Timothy Egan. A very readable account of the incredible "dust bowl" storms in the Midwest during the 1930's. Almost biblical in size and destructive force. Static electricity could knock people to the ground when they touched. Livestock would choke to death on the dust. The greatest natural disaster in the history of the US. One such storm churned up more dirt in a single afternoon than the entire Panama Canal project which lasted years. It would swallow people and towns.
That sounds like a very good book. There was a series on The History Channel I watched last year called "Black Blizzard" if I remember correctly. Excellent series about those storms. On another tv show type note, did you ever watch "Carnivale"? It was on HBO, only lasted 2 seasons but took place during the dust bowl era and was an excellent blend of mysticism. religion, sorcery, overall good vs. evil type plot. Clancy Brown, Nick Stahl, excellent show.
 

Walter Oobleck

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How bad was it, really? I mean I've seen some film footage and have heard various reports...but it's not easy to get a handle on it. This was an event that transpired over a summer? Longer? Was it predicted? Mind-boggling...and you mean it wasn't biblical? I'm reminded of the places in the Bible where it says one should leave the ground fallow...or whatever you say...every seven years, to leave the ground alone. Give it a break. We don't do that now and I don't believe they did it then...other than maybe rotate crops...but that's not leaving the ground alone. I don't do it in my backyard garden. Should I? I think about those wind things...what are they called? wind... not mills. something else. wind vanes. I got nothing. weather vanes? No... cattle skull with horns attached...
 

kingricefan

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How bad was it, really? I mean I've seen some film footage and have heard various reports...but it's not easy to get a handle on it. This was an event that transpired over a summer? Longer? Was it predicted? Mind-boggling...and you mean it wasn't biblical? I'm reminded of the places in the Bible where it says one should leave the ground fallow...or whatever you say...every seven years, to leave the ground alone. Give it a break. We don't do that now and I don't believe they did it then...other than maybe rotate crops...but that's not leaving the ground alone. I don't do it in my backyard garden. Should I? I think about those wind things...what are they called? wind... not mills. something else. wind vanes. I got nothing. weather vanes? No... cattle skull with horns attached...
It was a horrible, horrible situation, Walter. Lots of people and livestock died. Especially livestock. Imagine watching your little child die a slow death with lungs filled with grit. Imagine said grit finding its way into your home in every nook and cranny. Imagine a never ending wind carrying that grit everywhere. The wind sometimes went on for days. Imagine said home covered with, not snow drifts, but drifts of grit. There was a show on PBS about this, I think it may have been done by Ken Burns, and I watched it. It was just mind numbing that something like that could happen in this country in such a short span, all because of a drought one year, which went on into the next. Day would turn into night within minutes. People could see the dark clouds of grit coming from miles away (the plains are pretty flat) and there was nothing they could do except watch it blowing in. Nothing. The government tried to help, but you can't fight Mother Nature. If the family was lucky enough to have some money to leave, they were faced with discrimination where ever they went and had to accept work with almost non-living wages. Alot of them had to shop at the 'company store' on the farm where they worked/lived and paid high prices for their goods. It was a no-win situation. Not one of our best times in our countries history.
 

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Anyone who enjoys nonfiction might give this one a try. It's by Timothy Egan. A very readable account of the incredible "dust bowl" storms in the Midwest during the 1930's. Almost biblical in size and destructive force. Static electricity could knock people to the ground when they touched. Livestock would choke to death on the dust. The greatest natural disaster in the history of the US. One such storm churned up more dirt in a single afternoon than the entire Panama Canal project which lasted years. It would swallow people and towns.

It was a horrible, horrible situation, Walter. Lots of people and livestock died. Especially livestock. Imagine watching your little child die a slow death with lungs filled with grit. Imagine said grit finding its way into your home in every nook and cranny. Imagine a never ending wind carrying that grit everywhere. The wind sometimes went on for days. Imagine said home covered with, not snow drifts, but drifts of grit. There was a show on PBS about this, I think it may have been done by Ken Burns, and I watched it. It was just mind numbing that something like that could happen in this country in such a short span, all because of a drought one year, which went on into the next. Day would turn into night within minutes. People could see the dark clouds of grit coming from miles away (the plains are pretty flat) and there was nothing they could do except watch it blowing in. Nothing. The government tried to help, but you can't fight Mother Nature. If the family was lucky enough to have some money to leave, they were faced with discrimination where ever they went and had to accept work with almost non-living wages. Alot of them had to shop at the 'company store' on the farm where they worked/lived and paid high prices for their goods. It was a no-win situation. Not one of our best times in our countries history.

Hey thanks for this Richard X.

KingRiceFan AKA: My Baby's Daddy, you sold me on this one . . .good post.
 

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It was a horrible, horrible situation, Walter. Lots of people and livestock died. Especially livestock. Imagine watching your little child die a slow death with lungs filled with grit. Imagine said grit finding its way into your home in every nook and cranny. Imagine a never ending wind carrying that grit everywhere. The wind sometimes went on for days. Imagine said home covered with, not snow drifts, but drifts of grit. There was a show on PBS about this, I think it may have been done by Ken Burns, and I watched it. It was just mind numbing that something like that could happen in this country in such a short span, all because of a drought one year, which went on into the next. Day would turn into night within minutes. People could see the dark clouds of grit coming from miles away (the plains are pretty flat) and there was nothing they could do except watch it blowing in. Nothing. The government tried to help, but you can't fight Mother Nature. If the family was lucky enough to have some money to leave, they were faced with discrimination where ever they went and had to accept work with almost non-living wages. Alot of them had to shop at the 'company store' on the farm where they worked/lived and paid high prices for their goods. It was a no-win situation. Not one of our best times in our countries history.

I saw that Ken Burns documentary, too. The dust bowl situation was not totally because of the drought, though. Things wouldn't have been as bad if it hadn't been for the farming practices at the time because they didn't know better. The Plains grasses have a real purpose and once they destroyed that by overfarming, it set things up for the erosion of the soil that added significantly to the misery of the drought.
 

kingricefan

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I saw that Ken Burns documentary, too. The dust bowl situation was not totally because of the drought, though. Things wouldn't have been as bad if it hadn't been for the farming practices at the time because they didn't know better. The Plains grasses have a real purpose and once they destroyed that by overfarming, it set things up for the erosion of the soil that added significantly to the misery of the drought.
You are so right. It was a combination of alot of different factors that created that hell on earth. Watching the documentary was very sobering. Shows just how powerful Mom Nature can be when she wants. What I don't remember being explored in the docu was how our drought affected the rest of the world such as food supply, etc. That would be interesting to know.
 

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You are so right. It was a combination of alot of different factors that created that hell on earth. Watching the documentary was very sobering. Shows just how powerful Mom Nature can be when she wants. What I don't remember being explored in the docu was how our drought affected the rest of the world such as food supply, etc. That would be interesting to know.

I've never heard anything official but I've always noticed that there was a lot of severe weather in the 30s. For instance, Florida was hit with more hurricanes in the 30s than at any other time. It seems that whenever records are broken, they seem to break records that were set in the 30s. I wonder if all of that dust altered US weather some.
 

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I've never heard anything official but I've always noticed that there was a lot of severe weather in the 30s. For instance, Florida was hit with more hurricanes in the 30s than at any other time. It seems that whenever records are broken, they seem to break records that were set in the 30s. I wonder if all of that dust altered US weather some.

The Great Hurricane of 1938 is generally considered to be the worst one ever to hit New England
 

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Sadly, we haven't learned much from the experience. The current practices of agribusiness are draining the Ogallala Aquifer with some reports saying it is being drained at 8 times faster than nature's ability to refill it. At the current rate, this aquifer which supplies about 30% of the nation's irrigation water will be completely dry within a century if something isn't done to stop it.