Flight MH370

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Winter

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I'm glad there was a thread on this. I have just been reading todays articles on it and its just awful, its nice to see others that are concerned for them too...and isnt it all a bit strange? Cell phones still ringing? Stolen passports? A transponder possibly just turned off? Pilot suicide? Those poor poor families, I cant bear to think about the terror for those passengers, whatever happened. :(
 

Spideyman

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My heart goes out to those who were on that flight/ and their families. It makes one think about travel in foreign countries and their degree of technology to "search and rescue". One would think, with satellite imagery something would have been seen.
@kingricefan -- agree it does bring back memories of Lost.

Here is another link -- also makes one think about safety.
Woman says she flew in the cockpit with the missing pilot - CNN.com
 

Winter

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My heart goes out to those who were on that flight/ and their families. It makes one think about travel in foreign countries and their degree of technology to "search and rescue". One would think, with satellite imagery something would have been seen.
@kingricefan -- agree it does bring back memories of Lost.

Here is another link -- also makes one think about safety.
Woman says she flew in the cockpit with the missing pilot - CNN.com
Once I flew to Bali and I am an extremely nervous passenger. I am prescribed medication to fly, without which I wouldnt be able to get myself on the plane..anywho-I was on a flight to Bali and the hostess obviously noted my white face or iron grip n the seat and she came and asked me if I would feel better to come and sit in the cockpit. They were friendly and funny but not at all unprofessional or lacking in respect for safety. I saw Australia come up and over the horizon which actually is up there as one of the most amazing things I have seen. Anyway while it was banned in that airline, across the board its relatively common - as for a long time was smoking. Its a shame it gets flung about by the media as if to vaguely say "oh well he entertained two women by showing off at his job - perhaps he had something to do with it all"....and maybe he did but its not the height of irresponsibility the media make it out to be.
 

Spideyman

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Once I flew to Bali and I am an extremely nervous passenger. I am prescribed medication to fly, without which I wouldnt be able to get myself on the plane..anywho-I was on a flight to Bali and the hostess obviously noted my white face or iron grip n the seat and she came and asked me if I would feel better to come and sit in the cockpit. They were friendly and funny but not at all unprofessional or lacking in respect for safety. I saw Australia come up and over the horizon which actually is up there as one of the most amazing things I have seen. Anyway while it was banned in that airline, across the board its relatively common - as for a long time was smoking. Its a shame it gets flung about by the media as if to vaguely say "oh well he entertained two women by showing off at his job - perhaps he had something to do with it all"....and maybe he did but its not the height of irresponsibility the media make it out to be.


My concern was more in line with safety. No one knows as this point what the pilot or co pilot may have done or not done on this flight. No blame on anyone at this point in time. Only concerns for those lost. I guess having seen 9/11 and the changes that were put in place, it seemed strange that a pilot of an international flight would allow someone in the cockpit. Sometimes one forgets what is common, or had been common in another country, is so different in the USA. The article did say that happened several years ago.

I can only imagine the beauty of the sights you were able to see during that flight. It is a shame the world has moved on.
 
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mjs9153

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My heart goes out to those who were on that flight/ and their families. It makes one think about travel in foreign countries and their degree of technology to "search and rescue". One would think, with satellite imagery something would have been seen.
@kingricefan -- agree it does bring back memories of Lost.

Here is another link -- also makes one think about safety.
Woman says she flew in the cockpit with the missing pilot - CNN.com
I think it is a bad idea all around to allow passengers into the cockpit.Creates distractions for the crew and you never know how the passenger is going to respond..they may react in some kind of totally unforeseen manner,due to undisclosed problems or just reaction to the stress of flying..can't believe they still allow that to happen.I also can't understand why they are automatically ruling out the two guys with stolen passports,who were they then,just some poor innocent babe in the woods?Hope they take a long look at everyone aboard,of course as has been stated,the investigation starts with the plane,or wreckage,recovery..
 

Walter Oobleck

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I wonder how much truth there is in the idea that turning the transponders off takes some doing. Having been a radar operator, I've a miniscule knowledge of what they do...but I've always assumed that a simple turn of the knob turns it off and on...a simple turn of the knob squawks a hijacking, squawks (radar-speak from years ago) a lack of communications. It is a bit disturbing that judging by the news accounts, the Malaysian government knew more about what had happened than they let on initially, that much manpower and time was expended searching in an area where the Malaysian government knew the plane had left. But with the transponder off (navy ships had them and still do I assume) the only thing the radar operator would see is a blip on the screen...with the transponder on the plane is identified...so how likely is it that a triple-7 could fly undetected...to some other part of the world....and why?...without being detected, questioned (some military's jets checking it out). There was all that to-do about "weapons of mass destruction" there or not in Iraq...but I wonder how many planes were on the various tarmacs? And where this one went, lacking any debris field?
 

Out of Order

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Good to see you, Walter.
Well, the mystery certainly deepens with each passing hour. You have to wonder why the Malaysian government held onto such information. A little "hey you guys are looking in the wrong place" type of thing would have been nice. Unless they MIGHT be hiding something, it is a hard one to explain.
 

skimom2

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Eastern gov'ts tend to be very reticent to release information, so it's not that unusual. The longer this goes on, the more I expect some sort of terror strike in China--lots of Chinese citizens onboard to make a point. If so, the pilot would have to be in collusion or under extreme duress--those monsters can't be flown by just anyone. Pilots qualified to fly the 777 (and there aren't many) have to go to a special school at Boeing.

There is precedent for planes going down and leaving little surface debris, though. If the passenger doors were off (I think I read that), it could take on water very quickly, sink fast, and leave little on the surface. The Pacific is a BIG ocean, and the depths vary widely in that region.
 

skimom2

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Why wouldn't they release any helpful info on a commercial airliner occupied by a group of international passengers? One that is being looked for by 10 or more countries. They waited, what, 3 days before saying they had the plane tracked to a different area?

Hmmmmm?

They lose face because their commercial system lost track of the plane in the first place. I'd be cautious of what they've said about military tracking, too, unless they can produce the records. Again, it makes them look better to say, "Look! We have info after all!"
 

Out of Order

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They lose face because their commercial system lost track of the plane in the first place. I'd be cautious of what they've said about military tracking, too, unless they can produce the records. Again, it makes them look better to say, "Look! We have info after all!"

Without the transponder on I can see how it could be lost. Not so sure anyone is looking better at this point, but I see what you are saying.

You think China could be ripe for a terrorist attack from this mystery? Wouldn't that be something........awful.