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Dana Jean

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Dana Jean

I just looked it up and the real guy was sentenced to 3 years, served 1, released due to humanitarian reasons. His age, most likely. He was a WWII vet and he passed away in 2016.
Thank you for that quick run down. So you personally, were you sympathetic to him or not. Were you on Clint's side of the matter?
 

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Thank you for that quick run down. So you personally, were you sympathetic to him or not. Were you on Clint's side of the matter?
I don't know. I think in the movie version, at least for his first few runs, he suspected what he was doing. As the loads and his pay increases, he peeked once. Then he knew. Less sympathy for him then. By then he had bought back his house from the bank who was foreclosing on him. But he kept doing it. But I suppose one does not just walk away from a drug cartel. I was sympathetic at first and then scared for him.

I went back and read through the page again, about the real guy. He did this for 10 years! That was definitely not portrayed in the movie that it had been that long.
 

Dana Jean

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I don't know. I think in the movie version, at least for his first few runs, he suspected what he was doing. As the loads and his pay increases, he peeked once. Then he knew. Less sympathy for him then. By then he had bought back his house from the bank who was foreclosing on him. But he kept doing it. But I suppose one does not just walk away from a drug cartel. I was sympathetic at first and then scared for him.

I went back and read through the page again, about the real guy. He did this for 10 years! That was definitely not portrayed in the movie that it had been that long.
Wow. That is a long time to be a
stone cold thug. I can see sympathy for an elderly veteran, no money, on the verge of homelessness doing what he has to do. But then you think about the illegality of it and how many children died because of his mule-ing drugs? On one hand, it makes me very sad for his plight and the decisions he was forced to make, and then I see the other side of that coin. And yes, once you get involved, they may not let you just walk away. You made your deal with the devil and you're gonna pay him.
 

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Wow. That is a long time to be a
stone cold thug. I can see sympathy for an elderly veteran, no money, on the verge of homelessness doing what he has to do. But then you think about the illegality of it and how many children died because of his mule-ing drugs? On one hand, it makes me very sad for his plight and the decisions he was forced to make, and then I see the other side of that coin. And yes, once you get involved, they may not let you just walk away. You made your deal with the devil and you're gonna pay him.
Yes. I think if I had known before watching it that it was based on a true story it would have dampened my enjoyment of the movie.
 

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Yes. I think if I had known before watching it that it was based on a true story it would have dampened my enjoyment of the movie.
It makes you wonder

how do you retire from a career as a drug mule?

"Excuse me sir, insert your own name for executive drug king pin here, I would like to put in my 2 weeks notice."
 

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It makes you wonder

how do you retire from a career as a drug mule?

"Excuse me sir, insert your own name for executive drug king pin here, I would like to put in my 2 weeks notice."
Yep! And in the movie, there were 2 bosses. The first admired Clint's character and was nice to him. Schmoozed him. But first boss was murdered by an underling who wanted power and the new boss just wanted his product to move. Now. That guy would never have let him walk away.
 

Wayoftheredpanda

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Pet Sematary (2019), it was better than I expected overall, but still very mediocre. It was at least a enjoyable to be one of the only people in the near-empty theatre. I thought the zombie makeup for the human characters was done terribly which was disappointing because Church looked awesome.

Out of the changes I liked, I think they did alright with changing it so Ellie would be the one who got hit by the truck. I thought Church baiting her into the road was a really good idea. The acting was subpar in some scenes but it was overall alright. I’m a little disappointed in how only the back of the wendigo was seen as opposed to the cackling face thingy. I’m also disappointed we didn’t get full on flashback scenes to Jud’s dog and Baterman, those would’ve been awesome. I think Church dying and coming back wasn’t done well at all, and that Rachel and the kids being away while it happened would makes a lot more sense. I also thought that scene right after Ellie came back was really unnecessary and it just came off as dumb. The ending was also not great, Louis burying Rachel and ending like the book did the tone much more well than that fight scene in the cemetery followed by them approaching Gage in the car. Like I said the makeup didn’t do much for me in way of the human zombies, if they were slightly more disfigured instead of just being blue and having their veins pop out.

Also no Smucky the Cat :mad::mad::mad:, I mean c’mon, that’s the only reason I went.

Verdict: 4.5/10, no Ramones in the soundtrack outside of the credits either
 

Wayoftheredpanda

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Pet Sematary (2019), it was better than I expected overall, but still very mediocre. It was at least a enjoyable to be one of the only people in the near-empty theatre. I thought the zombie makeup for the human characters was done terribly which was disappointing because Church looked awesome.

Out of the changes I liked, I think they did alright with changing it so Ellie would be the one who got hit by the truck. I thought Church baiting her into the road was a really good idea. The acting was subpar in some scenes but it was overall alright. I’m a little disappointed in how only the back of the wendigo was seen as opposed to the cackling face thingy. I’m also disappointed we didn’t get full on flashback scenes to Jud’s dog and Baterman, those would’ve been awesome. I think Church dying and coming back wasn’t done well at all, and that Rachel and the kids being away while it happened would makes a lot more sense. I also thought that scene right after Ellie came back was really unnecessary and it just came off as dumb. The ending was also not great, Louis burying Rachel and ending like the book did the tone much more well than that fight scene in the cemetery followed by them approaching Gage in the car. Like I said the makeup didn’t do much for me in way of the human zombies, if they were slightly more disfigured instead of just being blue and having their veins pop out.

Also no Smucky the Cat :mad::mad::mad:, I mean c’mon, that’s the only reason I went.

Verdict: 4.5/10, no Ramones in the soundtrack outside of the credits either
Also honestly halfway through the movie (after Pascow and Rachel’s Zelda PTSD) a woman passed meheading for the exit with a girl who looked to be 6-7. Ah yes, taking a 7 year old to see “Pet Sematary: based on the novel by Stephen King” the movie about how there’s no good afterlife and where cats and little kids get hit by trucks.
 

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Watched two last night: audio commentary of The Thing (1982) with John Carpenter and Kurt Russell (I like how they were debating whether the 'MacReady' character was an alien at the end. Someone posted on here a while ago how they thought MacReady didn't turn into a 'copy' because he was drinking alcohol and maybe the alien couldn't convert alcohol or something) and The Trial of the Incredible Hulk.
 

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Also honestly halfway through the movie (after Pascow and Rachel’s Zelda PTSD) a woman passed meheading for the exit with a girl who looked to be 6-7. Ah yes, taking a 7 year old to see “Pet Sematary: based on the novel by Stephen King” the movie about how there’s no good afterlife and where cats and little kids get hit by trucks.
I think kids are subjected to worse stuff than Pet Sematary just by browsing on the internet. I remember when mobile phones came out first at schools and kids would be showing each other scenes from the movie 'The Exorcist' etc.
 
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Wayoftheredpanda

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True. I don't get why you would take a kid to a movie like that and then decide to leave after ten minutes or so. Seems strange.
I can understand a child accidentally seeing a scary movie on TV or something spooky on the internet but that’s blatantly going to buy tickets, the movie theatre employee advising that the movie is rated R and “are you sure you want to let her see this” going into the movie, watching all the previews, and only 30 minutes in does it cross your mind that this isn’t really a good movie for a seven year old
 

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Also no Smucky the Cat :mad::mad::mad:, I mean c’mon, that’s the only reason I went.
Really?? And in the interview I mentioned earlier, he confirms that Smucky was an actual cat that belonged to his daughter. She made the "He was Obedient" sign and was the one who said "God can get his own cat!" about Smucky! Poor, left out Smucky!!
Also honestly halfway through the movie (after Pascow and Rachel’s Zelda PTSD) a woman passed meheading for the exit with a girl who looked to be 6-7. Ah yes, taking a 7 year old to see “Pet Sematary: based on the novel by Stephen King” the movie about how there’s no good afterlife and where cats and little kids get hit by trucks.
:facepalm_smiley:
 

swiftdog2.0

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Also honestly halfway through the movie (after Pascow and Rachel’s Zelda PTSD) a woman passed meheading for the exit with a girl who looked to be 6-7. Ah yes, taking a 7 year old to see “Pet Sematary: based on the novel by Stephen King” the movie about how there’s no good afterlife and where cats and little kids get hit by trucks.
When I saw the South Park movie in the theater I swear there were at least 4 or 5 kids 10 and under in the audience. Just what the world needed in 1999 was 10 year olds singing "shut your f***ing face, Uncle f***er!"
 
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