Oswald didn't shoot JFK

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Do you think Oswald shot JFK?


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kay brown

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well thanks for explaining it to me. It might shock you to find out I can read, hence my love of SK. He is very wordy after all... :)

I mentioned McVeigh. The reason being he also stated things in his writ of Mandamus that seemed to indicate he didn't realize he was the patsy.

Or they are both liars that just committed a heinous crime.

I'll step out now as I probably know as much or more than you about this specific conspiracy theory and chased this rabbit down too many holes. The blue lines on the sprocket holes in the Zapruder film, the 34 point match of a print in the shooter's corner being identified as belonging to Malcolm Wallace, the memo Hoover sent to the office of the CIA director about being visited on the day of the assassination by a later unable to be identified agent "George Bush" and all the other greatest hits.

There aren't answers except the ones in your mind is what I found out.
George Bush was seen in Dealey Plaza that morning it's reported, though he denies he was there.
 
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champ1966

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Any constant reader would know SK writes a lot about alternate universes, as in this book. The book is about time travel, and the butterfly effect. The shooting of JFK was just used to show what the effect could be if you travelled back in time and saved someone's life. Time travel isn't possible, and there's isn't a city called Derry in the USA.
 

Walter Oobleck

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Any constant reader would know SK writes a lot about alternate universes, as in this book. The book is about time travel, and the butterfly effect. The shooting of JFK was just used to show what the effect could be if you travelled back in time and saved someone's life. Time travel isn't possible, and there's isn't a city called Derry in the USA.
:too_sad: you big meanie! is too! is too!

Didn't Oswald shoot that law enforcement officer, Tippett? Why would he do that? Or there was some sort of confrontation, anyway. And seems like it has been established that Oswald brought what is believed to be the gun to work that day, had it wrapped in blankets or a curtain, something. For what it's worth, I like the manner in which King used the catchphrase The Dallas Police in Tommyknockers. Took a break the other day about two, Friday, sitting in the truck drinking a cup turn on the radio, Sirius radio, tuned to CNN. They're covering that happening at the airport in Dallas, stellar journalism at work, like usual. We're sitting in the truck listening to something about a shooting...they play the tape a couple times...they tell the listening audience everything except who or what the gunman is/was. I've about given up on the "news" other than listening to the radio, scan the headlines of the paper, but I looked some to learn what had happened. I think it was the Dallas Police who were the only shooters at the airport and that the target was a guy who wanted to commit suicide by cop. You'd think someone on the scene would have known that two minutes after arriving, on scene, (and breathless) but no...turned the radio off and went back to work, clueless. Good thing I wasn't traveling that day.
 

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Any constant reader would know SK writes a lot about alternate universes, as in this book. The book is about time travel, and the butterfly effect. The shooting of JFK was just used to show what the effect could be if you travelled back in time and saved someone's life. Time travel isn't possible, and there's isn't a city called Derry in the USA.
:icon_eek: Blasphemy!!!!
 

kay brown

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What do you think the point was?
I think Stephen King is multi-faceted in his construction of books..the point of 11/22/63 is probably too...and that could be to earn another $40 million..to explore the idea of worm holes between times..to promote his belief that Oswald killed JFK ..to make people think saving JFK would make a better world and then show them it didnt..a love story ... I feel the bones of the story is that Oswald probably did kill JFK ..and everything else was the meat and potatoes.
 

kay brown

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kay brown I understand you are trying to show us the conspiracy thing and I/we appreciate your efforts but in the end...

We're just playing.
Oh all is well..no one said anything that was malicious...I am enjoying the book and just ignoring the elephant in the room..so to speak

I do hope you like the book. (I loved it.)
 

CoriSCapnSkip

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Conspiracy theories about assassinations seem harmless nonsense next to these nuts who believe the July 7 attacks in Britain, the Sandy Hook school shootings, the Orlando nightclub shooting, and other such scenes of mass carnage are put-ons by actors paid to undermine gun ownership rights or any such absolute garbage. No doubt even lunatic opinions are protected by freedom of speech but perhaps this sort of statement if made seriously should be declared a crime, as is holocaust denial in Germany. You can't just claim anything--there are such things as slander and libel.

That being said, I believe at the very least such a mass of mistakes and screwups occurred during and after John F. Kennedy's assassination as to make it look like a coverup, either of a conspiracy or of people trying to downplay their own blunders. I voted yes that Oswald shot Kennedy, as I believe he owned the gun, brought it to the building, fled the building immediately afterwards having somehow left his finger and palm prints all over the gun, was the only employee found to be missing when a head count was made right after the shooting, and he did kill the police officer with another weapon and resisted arrest. It's been demonstrated that the shooting could have been accomplished by a really expert marksman using Oswald's rifle, and why conspiracists would recruit a nut like Oswald (other than as the perfect fall guy) or equip him with one of the crappiest weapons available to accomplish such a major goal are great questions.

It's been said that JFK and his brother RFK's shootings were connected--that Bobby was going to get to the bottom of who was behind Jack's death and so was killed. Recently it's been said that Aristotle Onassis had hated Bobby for at least 15 years and put up the money to have him killed, that Onassis's own daughter knew the money could be traced to him but wanted to believe it went for something else, and when she died the whole investigation was dropped. RFK's shooting was by more than one gunman whether or not it was a conspiracy or simply more than one armed person in the room out to get him. (It's believed Sirhan went to get him but did not fire the fatal bullet, and a security guard who hated Kennedy took advantage of the situation. Many people in the room were filming or taking stills and some of the images have mysteriously disappeared.) The only person shot in the head who appeared dead at scene was a man named Paul Schrade (despite the movie Bobby, it wasn't Elijah Wood). Paul Schrade is in fact still alive and it's been well demonstrated that the person who shot him cannot also have shot Robert Kennedy--Sirhan Sirhan never got far out of the same position and the shots were fired from completely different positions. Also I believe they found more bullets than that gun held, and Sirhan never reloaded.
 

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harmless nonsense next to these nuts who believe the July 7 attacks in Britain, the Sandy Hook school shootings, the Orlando nightclub shooting, and other such scenes of mass carnage are put-ons by actors paid to undermine gun ownership rights or any such absolute garbage.
They call them "false flags" and, yeah, it's insane. I did an article on this stuff after the Oregon shooting last October. I had to take a very hot shower afterward. It's insane!

Oregon Shooting Already Being Called ‘False Flag’: This Rabbit Hole Is Deep And Scary

They began calling this latest shooting a "false flag" that very afternoon. Which should bring the argument against letting mentally unstable people have guns. These guys are really gone.
 

kay brown

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You are entitled to your opinion..but you are pretty much wrong on every point you made...we don't have to agree...I stated what I believe ..you yours
Conspiracy theories about assassinations seem harmless nonsense next to these nuts who believe the July 7 attacks in Britain, the Sandy Hook school shootings, the Orlando nightclub shooting, and other such scenes of mass carnage are put-ons by actors paid to undermine gun ownership rights or any such absolute garbage. No doubt even lunatic opinions are protected by freedom of speech but perhaps this sort of statement if made seriously should be declared a crime, as is holocaust denial in Germany. You can't just claim anything--there are such things as slander and libel.

That being said, I believe at the very least such a mass of mistakes and screwups occurred during and after John F. Kennedy's assassination as to make it look like a coverup, either of a conspiracy or of people trying to downplay their own blunders. I voted yes that Oswald shot Kennedy, as I believe he owned the gun, brought it to the building, fled the building immediately afterwards having somehow left his finger and palm prints all over the gun, was the only employee found to be missing when a head count was made right after the shooting, and he did kill the police officer with another weapon and resisted arrest. It's been demonstrated that the shooting could have been accomplished by a really expert marksman using Oswald's rifle, and why conspiracists would recruit a nut like Oswald (other than as the perfect fall guy) or equip him with one of the crappiest weapons available to accomplish such a major goal are great questions.

It's been said that JFK and his brother RFK's shootings were connected--that Bobby was going to get to the bottom of who was behind Jack's death and so was killed. Recently it's been said that Aristotle Onassis had hated Bobby for at least 15 years and put up the money to have him killed, that Onassis's own daughter knew the money could be traced to him but wanted to believe it went for something else, and when she died the whole investigation was dropped. RFK's shooting was by more than one gunman whether or not it was a conspiracy or simply more than one armed person in the room out to get him. (It's believed Sirhan went to get him but did not fire the fatal bullet, and a security guard who hated Kennedy took advantage of the situation. Many people in the room were filming or taking stills and some of the images have mysteriously disappeared.) The only person shot in the head who appeared dead at scene was a man named Paul Schrade (despite the movie Bobby, it wasn't Elijah Wood). Paul Schrade is in fact still alive and it's been well demonstrated that the person who shot him cannot also have shot Robert Kennedy--Sirhan Sirhan never got far out of the same position and the shots were fired from completely different positions. Also I believe they found more bullets than that gun held, and Sirhan never reloaded.
 

kay brown

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I did a
Sigmund I did reply earlier to your reply..I'm not upset over any of it..thanks!..yes I am overlooking the elephant in the room and enjoying the book...not to many writers in the class as Stephen King..even though we different on beliefs of who killed JFK
 
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