Talisman-the worst novel by Stephen King? Direct question to the author

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Denis Bushlatov

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You have insulted both Mr Straub and Mr King in your post.
One of the most important things that SK keeps on telling to us is-reader takes no sh*t. If you think that I have insulted him by this post (which most probably he'll never read), with all due the respect, you r wrong. But I do respect yr opinion.
 
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Ok, let's put it this way-this book contradicts almost every rule of his "On Writing". It's a dead-born child and it could have done well with some other wrriter but we al know how SK can (or could) write. It's really hard to make another masterpiece like Pet Sematary or MIsery and yet...
SK wrote On Writing and in it he set down some rules to help future writers in their attempts to write. These are his rules and he has every right to break them, change them, throw them out the window. He listens to his muse and write his stories as such. Not every book he wrote will be the same. Factors change, his life experiences change, thus each book is a journey unto itself. You may think you know how SK can or "could" write, but it is his choice as to what words he places to the paper.

you have a right to your opinions concerning this and any book, but do so without being so disrespectful.
 

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SK wrote On Writing and in it he set down some rules to help future writers in their attempts to write. These are his rules and he has every right to break them, change them, throw them out the window. He listens to his muse and write his stories as such. Not every book he wrote will be the same. Factors change, his life experiences change, thus each book is a journey unto itself. You may think you know how SK can or "could" write, but it is his choice as to what words he places to the paper.

you have a right to your opinions concerning this and any book, but do so without being so disrespectful.
right you r! He can do whatever he wants as he is the Creator of his own Universe. But if the novel is bad, it's bad... Forget abt Pet Sematary-try to make a simple lingvo-styllistic comparisson bw The Talisman and e.g. Blaze. Blaze was written decades ago...and it's brilliant. Why did I take Blaze-simple enough...it has reverances to "Of Mice and Men" (SK pointed it out himself in the preface) so as The Talisman does. What I am trying to say is that Talisman was an objective failure.
 
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right you r! He can do whatever he wants as he is the Creator of his own Universe. But if the novel is bad, it's bad... Forget abt Pet Sematary-try to make a simple lingvo-styllistic comparisson bw The Talisman and e.g. Blaze. Blaze was written decades ago...and it's brilliant. Why did I take Blaze-simple enough...it has reverances to "Of Mice and Men" (SK pointed it out himself in the preface) so as The Talisman does. What I am trying to say is that Talisman was an objective failure.
In your subjective opinion.
 

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right you r! He can do whatever he wants as he is the Creator of his own Universe. But if the novel is bad, it's bad... Forget abt Pet Sematary-try to make a simple lingvo-styllistic comparisson bw The Talisman and e.g. Blaze. Blaze was written decades ago...and it's brilliant. Why did I take Blaze-simple enough...it has reverances to "Of Mice and Men" (SK pointed it out himself in the preface) so as The Talisman does. What I am trying to say is that Talisman was an objective failure.
MsMod's reply is basically the same as mine. You have made a personal judgement about this book and that does not make it
a true statement for everyone who has read or will read the book.
 

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MsMod's reply is basically the same as mine. You have made a personal judgement about this book and that does not make it
a true statement for everyone who has read or will read the book.
Well, just to finalise... literature is also a science and any story can be deconstructed using lingvo stylistic tools. But I am not sure such a discussion would be proper on this forum. But u can always take a course of linguistics in the University:) Or read one of SK's essays on that mtr-some of them are really good.
 
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Well, just to finalise... literature is also a science and any story can be deconstructed using lingvo stylistic tools. But I am not sure such a discussion would be proper on this forum. But u can always take a course of linguistics in the University:) Or read one of SK's essays on that mtr-some of them are really good.
I have read some books by writers who have mastered the mechanics of writing but their stories have no life to them. I may not like everything Stephen has written or are they all written according to the "rules" of writing (including his own) but rarely have I read one of his that I could say that about.
 

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I have read some books by writers who have mastered the mechanics of writing but their stories have no life to them. I may not like everything Stephen has written or are they all written according to the "rules" of writing (including his own) but rarely have I read one of his that I could say that about.
u r right. art should break all the rules. SKhas shown it many times (The Green Mile is one of my favorite examples).
 

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I wasn’t a fan of War and Peace. As the book weighs about four pounds, my biceps really got a workout. :)
Never got through it. But you definitely know that Leo Tolstoy was writing for money and he was dependant upon the amount of words. Same goes for Dikkens by the way-the more he wrote the more he got paid. So...they both never stopped... For me, Tolstoy had a touch of God when he wrote The Death of Ivan Illych. The rest was just... errr...
 
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U have to learn how to control yr anger.
Where's the anger? DFTT- don't feed the trolls. You're not going to change your opinion by having any of us here defend this book or King's/Straub's reason to write it so why should we bother? As of now, this thread goes in the 'Ignore' pile for me. Have fun.
 
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