The Year of Cemetery Dance 2018

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Dana Jean

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Just curious, in these Cemetery Dance collections, anthologies, who decides what order these stories will appear? I'm assuming the editor putting the collection together, but do you have a say where you would like to be placed? Given these are just random stories.

Or, is there some type of -- uhhhh, not sure how to word that -- ego thing like in a movie marquee? Many actors and actresses have had fights over their placement on a movie marquee, or in the credits. Do authors do this?

Name recognition and popularity might dictate that the book start strong with that author, or finish strong with that author. But that isn't always the case.

I don't know if this was actually Julius Caesar or something Shakespeare came up with, but I have always heard that Julius said to always be the last speaker --those are the words that people will remember best.

I have noticed, Bev, that your stories are frequently placed near the end. A bit of strategy?
 

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Just curious, in these Cemetery Dance collections, anthologies, who decides what order these stories will appear? I'm assuming the editor putting the collection together, but do you have a say where you would like to be placed? Given these are just random stories.

Or, is there some type of -- uhhhh, not sure how to word that -- ego thing like in a movie marquee? Many actors and actresses have had fights over their placement on a movie marquee, or in the credits. Do authors do this?

Name recognition and popularity might dictate that the book start strong with that author, or finish strong with that author. But that isn't always the case.

I don't know if this was actually Julius Caesar or something Shakespeare came up with, but I have always heard that Julius said to always be the last speaker --those are the words that people will remember best.

I have noticed, Bev, that your stories are frequently placed near the end. A bit of strategy?

Editors put a lot of thought into the order of the stories -- I know we did with Flight or Fright. Authors have absolutely no say in it. Marquee authors often get a special position -- it was my idea to put Steve's story at the end, except we added the Dickey poem as a coda. You want to lead with a very strong story and you want to have stories that aren't too similar adjacent to each other. There's a bit of an art to it.

My story being near the end is a precedent that probably started with Borderland 5.
 

Dana Jean

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Editors put a lot of thought into the order of the stories -- I know we did with Flight or Fright. Authors have absolutely no say in it. Marquee authors often get a special position -- it was my idea to put Steve's story at the end, except we added the Dickey poem as a coda. You want to lead with a very strong story and you want to have stories that aren't too similar adjacent to each other. There's a bit of an art to it.

My story being near the end is a precedent that probably started with Borderland 5.
Thank you for that insight. Very interesting to see this business from a different job perspective.

I wish I knew one of these CD artists so I could ask some artist questions about being part of an author's work. The art is important to me. More than just a cover or an insert.

Did you and Stephen pick the artist to do your cover? Were you presented with many ideas before you chose what you did? Did you have a say in the overseas covers?
 
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GNTLGNT

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Editors put a lot of thought into the order of the stories -- I know we did with Flight or Fright. Authors have absolutely no say in it. Marquee authors often get a special position -- it was my idea to put Steve's story at the end, except we added the Dickey poem as a coda. You want to lead with a very strong story and you want to have stories that aren't too similar adjacent to each other. There's a bit of an art to it.

My story being near the end is a precedent that probably started with Borderland 5.
....these stories are all memorable, and I can't say that about most anthologies.....I still have a handful left to go, but they each have affected me in some way or another....so you and Steve did well in my humble estimation.....
 

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Did you and Stephen pick the artist to do your cover? Were you presented with many ideas before you chose what you did? Did you have a say in the overseas covers?

I suggested Cortney Skinner, who is doing the interior artwork and cover for the Artist Edition. Cemetery Dance picked Francois Vaillancourt, who did the cover for the trade edition. I've been seeing Francois' art more and more, and he is really quite talented. I know Cort from Necon and I discovered that he has an aviation gallery on his website, so I thought of him when this project came up. His interior art is fascinating-- he's done a lot with shadows and reflections. The first image will be released at the end of the week--his illustration for my story will appear in The Big Thrill newsletter from the ITW.

We had no say in the overseas cover except that we liked it. If we hadn't, I suppose that could have been a discussion, but we never tested that theory!
 

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I suggested Cortney Skinner, who is doing the interior artwork and cover for the Artist Edition. Cemetery Dance picked Francois Vaillancourt, who did the cover for the trade edition. I've been seeing Francois' art more and more, and he is really quite talented. I know Cort from Necon and I discovered that he has an aviation gallery on his website, so I thought of him when this project came up. His interior art is fascinating-- he's done a lot with shadows and reflections. The first image will be released at the end of the week--his illustration for my story will appear in The Big Thrill newsletter from the ITW.

We had no say in the overseas cover except that we liked it. If we hadn't, I suppose that could have been a discussion, but we never tested that theory!
Very interesting, thanks!
 

kingricefan

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Thank you for that insight. Very interesting to see this business from a different job perspective.

I wish I knew one of these CD artists so I could ask some artist questions about being part of an author's work. The art is important to me. More than just a cover or an insert.

Did you and Stephen pick the artist to do your cover? Were you presented with many ideas before you chose what you did? Did you have a say in the overseas covers?
Deej- most artists probably have a web site. Try googling them and then that way you could ask your questions.
 

kingricefan

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....these stories are all memorable, and I can't say that about most anthologies.....I still have a handful left to go, but they each have affected me in some way or another....so you and Steve did well in my humble estimation.....
I just finished Joe Hill's tale last night. Man, that was a corker!
 

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52. Shivers VII

edited by Richard Chizmar

About the Book:

"Cemetery Dance Publications is proud to announce the seventh entry in this award-nominated and best-selling anthology series!

In addition to the affordable trade paperback edition for general readers, this volume will also be published as a signed Limited Edition hardcover and a signed and traycased Lettered Edition hardcover, both of which will signed by the editor for the collectors!

Shivers VII contains more than 100,000 words of chilling fiction from more than two dozen of today's most popular authors of horror and suspense including Stephen King, Clive Barker, Graham Masterton, Ed Gorman, Bill Pronzini, Lisa Tuttle, Kaaron Warren, Del James, Lisa Morton, Roberta Lannes, Scott Nicholson, Bev Vincent, Brian James Freeman, Norman Prentiss, and many others.

Of special note to collectors: "Weeds" by Stephen King was originally published in Cavaliermagazine in May 1976 and in Nugget magazine in April 1979, but has not been reprinted since, although it was adapted as "The Lonesome Death of Jordy Verrill" for Creepshow in 1982.

"The Departed" by Clive Barker was originally published as "Hermione and the Moon" in The New York Times on October 30, 1992.

Featuring original dark fiction with a handful of rare reprints, Shivers VII is available only from Cemetery Dance Publications."

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My Thoughts:

Gail Cross gives us the cover and it's a good one. Of the Shivers editions I own, this is my favorite cover art.
And speaking of editions, apparently I own 3 Shivers VII. One of those dice rolls on grab bags. Two signed hardcovers and one advanced uncorrected readers copy.

Richard Chizmar once again delivers in his choices for this anthology. Every single author contributed a fantastic piece of writing. My stand-out favorites were, Red Rover, Red Rover by Norman Partridge; Born Dead by Lisa Tuttle; The Long Black Train by Travis Heermann; Beholder by Graham Masterton; and Bovine by Joel Arnold. Fantastic stories!

I'll give a shout out to our host, Stephen King and the story, Weeds. While I appreciate this source material, I still have that soft spot for Creepshow's version of pitiful Jordy Verrill. And come on! We get Stephen King himself!

One of our long time board members and author Bev Vincent does contribute a creepy, unsettling tale that made me want to watch Creepshow 3, as I have never seen this one. I want to compare Bev's story and the missed opportunity from a story included in the movie. Is it available? Is it out there?

You can't go wrong with any of the remaining stories either. Just good stuff.
 
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I think the police officer/former pta mom might have been hitting closely to the truth with what she said to Deaver. The comment Deaver made to Molly about how the kid gets people to kill for him somehow, also seemed like it could apply to Deaver. Aside from the birthday cake scene Deaver has also been present in every place the chaos has happened. The bird that hit the bus (similar to the birds hitting the ground at Juniper Hill) hit when only Deaver had been present. Molly has killed for him at least once, maybe more (the deaf man could have been killed by his intended protege.) Again, we've never seen the kid hurt anyone directly.

The Jackie Torrence scene where she claims something just came over her was an awesome reference.
 
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I think the police officer/former pta mom might have been hitting closely to the truth with what she said to Deaver. The comment Deaver made to Molly about how the kid gets people to kill for him somehow, also seemed like it could apply to Deaver. Aside from the birthday cake scene Deaver has also been present in every place the chaos has happened. The bird that hit the bus (similar to the birds hitting the ground at Juniper Hill) hit when only Deaver had been present. Molly has killed for him at least once, maybe more (the deaf man could have been killed by his intended protege.) Again, we've never seen the kid hurt anyone directly.

The Jackie Torrence scene where she claims something just came over her was an awesome reference.

Yes! Totally agree! I haven't seen today's episode yet, but I think it's significant that the first time we see Henry he's associated with death (his client being sentenced and then executed). This show is so skilled at playing with expectations/emotions. Really looking forward to the next direction!

Also, I so agree with everyone on episode 7. BRILLIANT all around! I cannot imagine what it must have been like to be part of the creative team that developed that episode. It would take so many sharp minds to get everything just right with the time jumps.
 

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53. Flight or Fright

Edited by Stephen King and Bev Vincent

About the Book:

"Stephen King hates to fly.

Now he and co-editor Bev Vincent would like to share this fear of flying with you.

Welcome to Flight or Fright, an anthology about all the things that can go horribly wrong when you're suspended six miles in the air, hurtling through space at more than 500 mph and sealed up in a metal tube (like—gulp!—a coffin) with hundreds of strangers. All the ways your trip into the friendly skies can turn into a nightmare, including some we'll bet you've never thought of before... but now you will the next time you walk down the jetway and place your fate in the hands of a total stranger.

Featuring brand new stories by Joe Hill and Stephen King, as well as fourteen classic tales and one poem from the likes of Richard Matheson, Ray Bradbury, Roald Dahl, Dan Simmons, and many others, Flight or Fright is, as King says, "ideal airplane reading, especially on stormy descents... Even if you are safe on the ground, you might want to buckle up nice and tight."

Book a flight with Cemetery Dance Publications for this terrifying new anthology that will have you thinking twice about how you want to reach your final destination."

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My Thoughts:

Artwork for the trade hardcover is done by François Vaillancourt and definitely fits the ominous and foreboding bill. Nice job.

The artist edition, which I am also getting, has artwork by Cortney Skinner and I am really looking forward to that edition.

My grandfather had his pilot's license and owned his own small plane. He flew a lot after he lost all but 3 fingers in a farm accident. I wish I would have had the presence of mind to ask him more about this time in his life, but I was young when he died and didn't get my chance.

Also, I live on the line between two cities. Both have small, commuter airports. Good for crop dusters, air traffic helicopters, gliders, parachuting businesses, small planes, old war birds and experimental one-man death-machines that look like go-carts with propellers jerry-rigged to the back.

Both of these airports have hosted air shows. And I happen to live where these stunt pilots and big bombers swing out in their holding patterns waiting for their turn to zoom back to their prospective air fields to thrill the crowds. The airport closest to me does accommodate private jets as we have a billionaire that lives in the state and has businesses in this town, so he would fly in frequently and paid for the runway to be extended for his use.

It's also fun to watch a local business with a fleet of small craft send one up to lazily circle and circle and circle higher and higher so it can spit out human beings like watermelon seeds -- their parachutes opening in a splash of color as they drift down. It looks so peaceful watching them from the ground. You don't think as you move back and forth in your rocker gazing upward that these "seeds" have lips and cheeks that are flapping like laundry sheets caught in a tornado. Unfortunately, I do know someone whose chute didn't open and they lived because they landed in a farmer's field that had just been tilled, so the soil was nice and fluffy. Lots of damage, but she walks today and has her faculties about her. A miracle.

Neither airport is big enough for the big birds, but our state capitol has our main airport, and even though I live about 25 minutes away, those large, lumbering aircraft also circle over my tiny little house in their holding patterns on occasion. So lots of sky watching going on. And yes, I'm the idiot who waves.

So, many a day or evening I have sat on my patio and watched and wondered about all these men and women in their flying machines.

This book gave me great anxiety about my casual viewing and I am forever going to look at the skies and those aeroplanes differently. And actually flying? These stories might put ideas in my head to think about at the most inopportune time.

I loved the foreword and afterword by Stephen and Bev respectively. Clever and fun entries. And Stephen's comments before each story to set them up and prime our pumps were great. Love when authors do that.

Being Stephen King fans, we tend to hear a lot of the same stories when he is interviewed because no one asks him anything remotely original. But his airplane story in this foreword was one I had never heard and I would love to hear more about it! Good God!

My standout stories would be:

Lucifer! by E. C. Tubb. Just the futility and inevitable outcome of those last couple pages left me right there with this person, frantic.
Cargo by E. Michael Lewis. A story around a very dark and infamous event.
The Flying Machine by Ray Bradbury -- A very Aesop-fabley tale.
and
Murder in the Air by Peter Tremayne. I love locked-room stories.

Our host, Stephen King, has a very nice entry that was totally him. And Bev Vincent's contribution was also well done. Still waiting for his book of short stories to be published.

I am very pleased to have this on my bookshelf and again, so excited to get the artist edition for that beautiful art to accompany each story.
 
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