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This has bothered me for 40 years *spoilers*

Discussion in ''Salem's Lot' started by Pogonip, Dec 1, 2014.

  1. Spideyman

    Spideyman Uber Member


    BRRR!!!
     
  2. blunthead

    blunthead Well-Known Member

     
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  3. blunthead

    blunthead Well-Known Member

    (((((all in need or not))))) Prayers and thoughts for all of us for a mild and safe winter.
     
  4. Moderator

    Moderator Ms. Mod Administrator

    Fortunately not a long walk from the car to the office door. My crutches are pimped out with ice grippers that fold up out of the way when I'm inside so give a little more security. At home my car is garaged and I have a door opener so just drive in/out and weather's not a big factor. Otherwise, I'm not going out much. Yesterday was the first time I'd been away from the house since December 18th! ;-D
     
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  5. Out of Order

    Out of Order Need More Time

    Who has been making the beer runs?
     
  6. Moderator

    Moderator Ms. Mod Administrator

    My partner is the beer drinker so that's his responsibility. =D Now had we run out of coffee and he wasn't around, I might have had to disobey doctor's orders not to drive! ;-D
     
  7. krwhiting

    krwhiting Well-Known Member

    My wife, though she was just a child when in Caribou (from born to 5), has an odd soft spot in her heart for Maine. When we lived in Massachusetts, she always wanted to drive up to Maine for weekends. So we spent quite a few weekends randomly wandering around it. She also chose, for the middle name of our last son, Chamberlain, in homage to Joshua Lawrence Chamberlain (of 20th Maine fame), I think just because he was from Maine, and she knew I'd agree because of his actions on Round Top ("Fix bayonets!").

    Kelly
     
  8. Moderator

    Moderator Ms. Mod Administrator

    He was from the neighboring town of Brewer, ME and there is a bridge (one of 3) between Bangor and Brewer that is named the Joshua Chamberlain Bridge.
     
  9. krwhiting

    krwhiting Well-Known Member

    He was something. That action on Round Top was only a brief glimpse into his character. But he displayed the same character throughout his life. When I was at West Point, there was a tradition in the history department (my major was in history, though being an engineering school everyone earns a BS no matter what your major is) of answering a question when you didn't know with "Fix bayonets and charge!" The rumor was you'd get half credit for it. Not enough, if that's all you did, to pass, but enough to keep you from failing if you answered some questions and then did that on others (they were hard graders back then). I never tried it, but I really liked the idea. It answered to an attitude soldiers should develop of going right at it when you don't know what else to do.

    Kelly
     
  10. champ1966

    champ1966 Well-Known Member

    I'll have to get the book out and check. But didn't Barlow grab the crucifix out of Father Callaghan's hand and basically say that most of the myths about vampires were untrue?
     
  11. champ1966

    champ1966 Well-Known Member

    Straker was dead at that point, drained and hung upside down by Barlow, in the Marsden house.
     
  12. krwhiting

    krwhiting Well-Known Member

    Not exactly. The invitation was necessary in the book. And crosses worked, even on Barlow, if the person's faith was real. But the cross was just a conduit, a focus of the faith. If faith failed, the cross failed too.

    Kelly
     
  13. champ1966

    champ1966 Well-Known Member

    Agreed.I went through the book after I made that post.
     
  14. Kahlessa

    Kahlessa Member

    I just read ‘Salem’s Lot again and I noticed something:


    When Danny Glick appears at Mark Petrie’s window asking to be let in, Mark resists. Then he notices the cross on his plastic graveyard and:


    “…Mark swept up the cross, curled it into a tight fist, and said loudly: ‘Come on in, then.’"

    (Chapter 10, Section 12, emphasis mine)​


    When Danny enters, Mark lays the cross on him and drives the vampire away. But Mark does not revoke the invitation, as Matt Burke had with Mike. So there may be a loophole for Barlow to enter Mark’s house as Mark had already given permission to Barlow’s minion Danny.
     
  15. not_nadine

    not_nadine Comfortably Roont

    Yes! I just re-read that part too! Struck me as odd. I was thinking, "Well, he can just come back now."

    I bet you are right. I had forgotten about this thread.
     
    Last edited: Apr 20, 2015
  16. Kahlessa

    Kahlessa Member

    I wonder if the opposite would be true--if someone invited Barlow in, could he then send one of his minions there? (After all, what's the point of having minions if you can't delegate things to them.)

    When I taught literature, I told students that when you come up with a theory about a story or novel, you have to look at what in the text supports your theory and what in the text does not. While my theory is speculation, I don't remember anything in the text that would prohibit it. The whole "vampires have to be invited in" thing is not very spelled out.

    Is there a central authority on vampire policy who decides these things? :laugh:
     
  17. Dana Jean

    Dana Jean Dirty Pirate Hooker Moderator

    I think it's one of the amendments of the constitution -- Main vampires can delegate said duties to minions et al.
     
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  18. Neesy

    Neesy #1 fan (Annie Wilkes cousin) 1st cousin Mom's side

    Main vampires - not Maine vampires?

    [​IMG]
     
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  19. Dana Jean

    Dana Jean Dirty Pirate Hooker Moderator

    Main(e)

    ;;D
     
  20. Neesy

    Neesy #1 fan (Annie Wilkes cousin) 1st cousin Mom's side

    Did ya notice the pic I posted in the spoiler says "Goatboy" in the corner (bottom right)
    :)
     

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