What Are You Reading? Part Deux

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morgan

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It is taking me an embarrassingly long time to finish The Story of Edgar Sawtelle. It comes so highly recommended by many here (and SK!). There's just too much animal stuff. And farm stuff. Some of the worst years of my life were spent living with my ex on his family's farm. I still have nightmares about the cows screaming when their calves were taken away.

Anyway...I've re-checked it out from the library twice now. I refuse to give up. (But, I can't renew it again, so if I don't finish in a week I might throw in the towel.)
 

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Currently reading Joe Hill's upcoming novella collection, Strange Weather. The second story, "Loaded," is one of the scariest stories I've read in a while. It deeply, deeply affected me. Very dark and unsettling stuff. I hate to compare Hill to his father, but this story reminded me of vintage King--think Cujo and "Apt Pupil." What I mean by that is Hill really goes for the throat here and he takes chances, apparently unafraid of pissing the reader off.
I'm so excited for you about the honor and privilege of receiving an ARC (and a wee bit jealous too! ;;D :love: )!
 

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I like Koontz's bio-engineered creatures so I gave Borne a try. I was not expecting Doctor Moreau on crack lol. I really liked this novel. Thanks for mentioning it! :) I liked it so well, I didn't want it to end. I downloaded The Strange Bird immediately after finishing Borne. The Strange Bird covers the Magician's activities during the same time period as the Borne novel.

Vandermeer leaves some things up to the reader's imagination, which is not something I usually like, but the unsolved mysteries in Borne didn't bother me since the main character didn't know all the answers either. I am wondering what you thought about...

The cascading silver wall... Was it a gateway between worlds or a gateway between alternate Earths? Did the Company bring Rachel through the wall from "our" Earth or did Rachel come from an alternate Earth? Was Borne's world "our" Earth? or an alternate Earth? or an alien world?

Was Wick ever human? Did he originate as a human from Earth? or from the Company's world? or was he so many bits and pieces he couldn't remember himself if he was ever human?

How did you visualize the Balcony Cliffs? At first, I imagined them as caves within a mountainside. Then I started visualizing them as damaged high rise apartment buildings.

Did the Company have a purpose? I don't remember any mention of a war between the Company's world and another world. Do you think some of the Company's experiments were meant to be weapons? or were all the aggressive life forms created by the Magician?

Please forgive me for all the questions and please feel free to ignore them lol. I tried to convince hubby to read Borne so we could discuss it but he doesn't like to read things he has to think about - he has too many things to think about at work.

Have you read anything else by Vandermeer?

ok, i'm home now, and while i wouldn't consider myself an authority, because the book is a bit abstract and leaves things to the imagination, here's at least some of what i think:

i actually hadn't given much thought to it yet, i think i need a reread to absorb more details. any and every one of those seems possible: our world, fallen to disrepair, an alternate world (think multiverse), a distant world or colony of some sort. i'm not sure that he provided hard evidence for any inescapable conclusion, so it may just be for the reader to interpret, or maybe he's world building and we'll find out for sure in the future.

wick, i got the impression, could have been a robot/cyborg or even a clone, although the reference was to "parts" wasn't it? i'd have to go back and check honestly. i lean robot right now, i could change my mind upon a re-read. then again, we don't know exactly how the pills factor in either. he could be bio-engineered himself, and have a shelf life or dependency system built into him like the dinos in jurassic park. so many mysteries.

i was pretty much the same as you regarding balcony cliffs. at first i was thinking actual cliffs, but as the novel progressed, i got the impression of an abandoned skyscraper of some sort.

i'm not sure i could figure out the Company's purpose with any reliability, but they definitely seemed to be deliberately making weapons, considering some of what they turned out. vandermeers version of the Umbrella Corp? scientists determined to learn new things, throwing all caution to the winds, ignoring the fact that just because something *can* be known, doesn't mean it *should*? lofty goals and no morals about the means? there's many variations of this powerful and amoral corporation/organization throughout a lot of different media, with many permutations when it comes to motives, so it's a hard call.
 

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I wish I hadn't read The Strange Bird. It answered some questions but the Magician was so horribly sadistic, it disturbed me terribly and I can't get it out of my head :( I may need to go back to reading cozy mysteries for a while

Have any of y'all read Annihilation? I want to read it but if it's as disturbing as The Strange Bird, I'm afraid to give it a try.

as i said, i haven't read it, but after taking a look at a description and a couple reviews, it doesn't seem like it would necessarily be disturbing. kind of mysterious and a bit strange, like Borne perhaps.
 

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still doing the audio version of It (and there's no way i'm done before the movie, but since i know the novel so well, i'm cool with that), meanwhile i read Dance of Death by Preson & Child. sometimes they go science/action, this one was mostly just action, and featured a cast of characters, many of whom i'd been introduced to in previous novels. i got the impression from some of the things described that there's a whole connected world out there with these characters, sometimes together, and sometimes in separate adventures, to enjoy. for instance, in the last two i read by these folks, it featured an FBI agent, a couple NYPD officers, a reporter, a graduate student/eventual professor, and i got the impression that the FBI agent and the reporter for sure had separate adventures between those novels and this one. at some point i'll have to read them all in order. a good read, i have yet to be disappointed by either of these authors, either separately or together (and they've written a number together).

now i've started The Seventh Plague by James Rollins. he's an author that makes great use of science and history, and does much research to make sure what he's presenting sounds plausible. he sometimes gives notations describing the real things he's based the novels off of. this one puts forth the premise that the biblical plagues of Exodus really happened (albeit not precisely as described) and presents a global threat based on people finding artifacts connected to the event that were better left undisturbed. it also features his creation SIGMA, a military organization staffed by special forces types who also have scientific backgrounds. he had several stand alone novels before he settled on SIGMA as a focus, and they've been the stars for quite a few books since they debuted, with a few detours. plenty of action, plenty of history, plenty of science, all mixed together for an entertaining (as usual) read.
 

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Currently reading Joe Hill's upcoming novella collection, Strange Weather. The second story, "Loaded," is one of the scariest stories I've read in a while. It deeply, deeply affected me. Very dark and unsettling stuff. I hate to compare Hill to his father, but this story reminded me of vintage King--think Cujo and "Apt Pupil." What I mean by that is Hill really goes for the throat here and he takes chances, apparently unafraid of pissing the reader off.
...he is his father's son in many ways, and that is for certain one of them....he doesn't give a damn whether you like it or not cuz he definitely goes there....
 

muskrat

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Digging (up) the controversial The Spectre comic series from the mid-70s, by Michael Fleisher and Jim Aparo. Great stuff, with a real E.C. comics vibe. Detective Jim Corrigan is killed by gangsters, sent back to Earth to avenge evildoers as the Spectre--who dispatches his foes in grisly, ironic ways. This comic really pushed the boundaries of what the dreaded old Comics Code allowed back then. I'm kinda surprised they got away with half the stuff they did. Good stuff.
 

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Digging (up) the controversial The Spectre comic series from the mid-70s, by Michael Fleisher and Jim Aparo. Great stuff, with a real E.C. comics vibe. Detective Jim Corrigan is killed by gangsters, sent back to Earth to avenge evildoers as the Spectre--who dispatches his foes in grisly, ironic ways. This comic really pushed the boundaries of what the dreaded old Comics Code allowed back then. I'm kinda surprised they got away with half the stuff they did. Good stuff.
That's a great old comic. Love those classic stories.
 
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ok, i'm home now, and while i wouldn't consider myself an authority, because the book is a bit abstract and leaves things to the imagination, here's at least some of what i think:

i actually hadn't given much thought to it yet, i think i need a reread to absorb more details. any and every one of those seems possible: our world, fallen to disrepair, an alternate world (think multiverse), a distant world or colony of some sort. i'm not sure that he provided hard evidence for any inescapable conclusion, so it may just be for the reader to interpret, or maybe he's world building and we'll find out for sure in the future.

wick, i got the impression, could have been a robot/cyborg or even a clone, although the reference was to "parts" wasn't it? i'd have to go back and check honestly. i lean robot right now, i could change my mind upon a re-read. then again, we don't know exactly how the pills factor in either. he could be bio-engineered himself, and have a shelf life or dependency system built into him like the dinos in jurassic park. so many mysteries.

i was pretty much the same as you regarding balcony cliffs. at first i was thinking actual cliffs, but as the novel progressed, i got the impression of an abandoned skyscraper of some sort.

i'm not sure i could figure out the Company's purpose with any reliability, but they definitely seemed to be deliberately making weapons, considering some of what they turned out. vandermeers version of the Umbrella Corp? scientists determined to learn new things, throwing all caution to the winds, ignoring the fact that just because something *can* be known, doesn't mean it *should*? lofty goals and no morals about the means? there's many variations of this powerful and amoral corporation/organization throughout a lot of different media, with many permutations when it comes to motives, so it's a hard call.

Thank you so much for replying :) I always wonder what other people think when a story is a little bit left up to the reader's imagination.
 

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Boom, score. Oh yeah, dug the first ten issues of Mike Grell's The Warlord out of the dollar box at the monkey store (Chimp's Comix). A long running fantasy comic put out by DC in the seventies and eighties. Sword-n-sorcery lost world type stuff, more ERB than REH (more John Carter than Conan, basically). See, earth is hollow, ya understand, and in the center burns a gas ball sun held by gravity that casts constant daylight on the inner lining of our world, and upon this 'inner lining' (if you will) is a sword/monster/sorcery realm, wherein our grey-bearded protagonist wanders, saber and pistol by his side, usually accompanied by scantily clad chicks or his mace-handed pal Machiste. Really kinda far out, if you ask me. Grell's art is decent, gets better as he goes--the guy was a real workhorse. There's a ton of these left in the box. Think I'll be getting the rest in time.

Anyhoo, good stuff. At one point our hero gets locked into a self-propelled Sci-fi monorail that zips him across the twisted landscape, and it brought to mind some story I read somewhere...hmmm...
 

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I finished Thin Air by Michelle Paver.
Very similar to her novel Dark Matter, but still worth a read, gives an insight into early mountaineering and what they had to go through...throw in a possible haunted mountain...yeah it was pretty good! :)

Now I am making good headway into A Head Full of Ghosts, roughly halfway.
For the first few chapters, I honestly didn't think I was going to enjoy it but I have to say, it has slowly drawn me in and I am interested to see how it pans out.

Also finally found a copy of City of Mirrors, so I can start The Passage Trilogy at some point too :D
 

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morgan

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Got to page 217 of The Story of Edgar Sawtelle and have firmly decided to throw in the towel. Way too much animal stuff for a girl like me! I quit at the part where
Claude is doctoring the victims of a planned dog fight. There have been so many animal deaths and cruelties up to this point, but this was the final straw for me. Just can't take anymore. I don't give up on books easily either. Would love to know what happens to Edgar, Almondine and the Sawtelle dogs. Maybe someone could tell me how it plays out.

Can't remember who all read this. kingricefan ??