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Paranoid Paintbrush

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I must admit to being pleasantly shocked at the Saints result this week; I thought the Steelers would beat us! :a11: [Can't help but feel it hasn't really taught me a lesson for having such a negative attitude; it's been rewarded, if anything... xD] I think, of the upcoming games, that the Falcons [boooooooo! :p] match will be the toughest; the Bears are usually solid too. I think it's taken a while for the Saints to really get started on the season as they're still working out how to fill the gap left by Sproles - letting him go was just silly, in my opinion!! o_O

On a positive note, I'd say it's now officially not too early to be excited about having a Super Bowl party. I've been looking forward to ours since August! :highly_amused:
 

Grandpa

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Well, Peyton didn't have a great game, but the Broncos as a whole looked impressive to me. C.J. Anderson flat out rocked. The Broncos played some tough defense. Connor Barth also contributed with five field goals.

Not exactly a great fantasy football night for Peyton, but I think the Broncos coaches made a deliberate effort to limit Peyton's throwing in favor of running the ball. That's what I want to see from the Broncos late in this season, too. Tough defense, special teams, and success at running the ball are the keys to playoff football. Achieving those are a sign that Peyton doesn't have to always be up to snuff in order for them to win a game.

But if all those other elements are working when Peyton is on his A-game, I think it'd be tough to beat them in the playoffs.

Point taken. It was so nice to finally have a dominating running game. And a kicker that's reliable at less than 40 yards. They were solid and not even close to any upright. Still, I don't knock the Broncos for cutting Prater.
 

Sundrop

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The Chargers game is actually huge for the Pats. If they lose that and the Dolphins beat the Ravens, Miami will only be one game back. The two of them meet Dec. 14th in Foxboro and if the Dolphins win that one they will have beaten the Pats twice and hold all the tiebreakers for the division. Far fetched perhaps, but this is the NFL of today.

I also think that the Jets will be especially tough in NJ on the 21st. It ain't over yet....

Yeah.......and the Panthers are still a contender for the playoffs
 

fljoe0

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Alabama missing a field goal. Well, that's a new one... not. :facepalm_smiley:

Coaches
Nick Saban - Head Coach
Burton Burns - Associate Head Coach/Running Backs
Mario Cristobal - Offensive Line
Bo Davis - Defensive Line
Lane Kiffin - Offensive Coordinator/Quarterbacks
Billy Napier - Wide Receivers
Kirby Smart - Defensive Coordinator/Linebackers
Kevin Steele - Linebackers/Special Assistant to Head Coach
Lance Thompson - Outside Linebackers
Bobby Williams - Tight Ends/Special Teams Coordinator
Joe Pannunzio - Director of Football Operations
Scott Cochran - Director of Strength and Conditioning
Tyler Siskey - Director of Player Personnel

They don't have a coach for the kickers. It appears that the special teams coach does double duty as the TE coach. I read an article by Chris Kluwe (former punter of the Vikings) where he gave his views on why college kicking is so bad at so many schools. He said that on most college teams, the kickers are pretty much on their own and there are not any coaches for the kickers. He said that most special teams coaches don't know anything about kicking.

Here is an excerpt:

Want to know why your team has a sh*tty kicker? Because your team has a sh*tty coach who doesn't know the first thing about the basic fundamentals of kicking and punting, but figures that a soccer castoff will do just fine so long as he gets screamed at loudly enough.

In my five years of college ball, and eight years in the NFL, I did not have a single special teams coach or head coach who had the faintest idea how it is that I did my job, and that is how it is EVERYWHERE. (I was lucky that early on in high school, I found a couple coaches who did know a thing or two so I could teach myself later).


By the way, Chris Kluwe's opinion of a sh* coach probably doesn't include Nick Sabin. ;-D
 
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jacobtlong

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I haven't really paid attention to kicking in college football for other teams. I'm certain they do get the short end of the stick quite a bit. I think Steve Mariucci once said something about not knowing how to coach kickers because they'd get moody if you pushed them too hard. :biggrin2:

I'm not sure if Alabama has bad kickers compared to the rest of the country or not, but I have noticed that the Tide's shortcomings in the kicking game always make a presence in the biggest of games and it has been that way for a while. After last year's Kick Six against Auburn I still don't understand how no one could make our kicking game a bigger priority. Then again I said the same thing after the 9-6 OT loss to LSU a few years ago. In both cases our kicker(s) got a few death threats.
 
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fljoe0

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The Dolphins defense has really been taking it on the chin the past few weeks. They really got destroyed in the 2nd half today.

Atlanta plays Green Bay tomorrow night and I don't expect them to win. So we will have two 5-8 teams tied for the NFC South lead with Carolina right behind at 4-8-1. Are we going to see a 6-10 team (or 6-9-1) win a division and make the playoffs this year?