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Dana Jean

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Playing devil's advocate here. Teenagers are huge d*cks sometimes. It's hard parenting them. Sometimes you can beat your head against the wall trying to get them to do the right thing. And they continue to be self destructive. I'm not sure how hard his mother and father (is there a father involved? I never hear about one) try. And as a parent, when you have lost all credibility as a parent, fuhgeddaboudit! A lot of parents give up easily too. They are tired and just get worn down and think they tried, and maybe they have and maybe they haven't.

Too many parents don't want to be the bad guy and want to be a friend. You are being a friend by being vigilant for them. And being more stubborn then they are. And fighting for their worthiness because most times, teenagers have no self esteem although they think they are so cool.

It's just hard. Most people do the best they can and everyone's standard of "Best" is going to be different. What I think is a great job might be seen as a poor job by someone else. Everyone has a story and a place of reference they learn from. But for the grace of God go I....
 
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Playing devil's advocate here. Teenagers are huge d*cks sometimes. It's hard parenting them. Sometimes you can beat your head against the wall trying to get them to do the right thing. And they continue to be self destructive. I'm not sure how hard his mother and father (is there a father involved? I never hear about one) try. And as a parent, when you have lost all credibility as a parent, fuhgeddaboudit! A lot of parents give up easily too. They are tired and just get worn down and think they tried, and maybe they have and maybe they haven't.

Too many parents don't want to be the bad guy and want to be a friend. You are being a friend by being vigilant for them. And being more stubborn then they are. And fighting for their worthiness because most times, teenagers have no self esteem although they think they are so cool.

It's just hard. Most people do the best they can and everyone's standards of "Best" is going to be different. What I think is a great job might be seen as a poor job by someone else. Everyone has a story and a place of reference they learn from. But for the grace of God go I....
Thanks Dana Jean ,I sure have had that battle with my one daughter.
 

Dana Jean

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Thanks Dana Jean ,I sure have had that battle with my one daughter.

Everyone needs to remember that our children have their own personalities and brains. They're people that way. Some children are easily guided; some children take that path less traveled into quicksand and fight you while you try to rescue them. We all have an opinion, and we all know what we would do if we were in that situation, but the question is, would you be any more successful? Maybe si, maybe no (nod to John).

I have huge compassion for anyone dealing with a difficult child. I've been fairly lucky myself, but I know that in the blink of an eye and one wrong decision or some weird new friend can send my kids veering off onto Mr. Toad's Magic Ride and I'm flying off the back of their car like a windsock trying to gain purchase and trying to talk sense into the kid while my feet bang and clatter on the rocks behind me!
 

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I think what arista meant is that Justin should not be the one to do the throwing...but yeah, sounds like Justin needs to be put in a Foster Home. Can't get over the idea that both parents, apparently, were there in Florida with him, one giving him pills, the other blocking traffic or whatever it was he did.

<slaps self in forehead>

Thank you Walter. I totally misunderstood.
 

AnnaMarie

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Playing devil's advocate here. Teenagers are huge d*cks sometimes. It's hard parenting them. Sometimes you can beat your head against the wall trying to get them to do the right thing. And they continue to be self destructive. I'm not sure how hard his mother and father (is there a father involved? I never hear about one) try. And as a parent, when you have lost all credibility as a parent, fuhgeddaboudit! A lot of parents give up easily too. They are tired and just get worn down and think they tried, and maybe they have and maybe they haven't.

Too many parents don't want to be the bad guy and want to be a friend. You are being a friend by being vigilant for them. And being more stubborn then they are. And fighting for their worthiness because most times, teenagers have no self esteem although they think they are so cool.

It's just hard. Most people do the best they can and everyone's standard of "Best" is going to be different. What I think is a great job might be seen as a poor job by someone else. Everyone has a story and a place of reference they learn from. But for the grace of God go I....

Even an "easy to raise" teen...when they are filthy rich, surrounded by adoring fans who love them no matter what, and every hanger-on imaginable giving them everything....that teen is not going to be easy to parent.

But...if you give that teen a substance, in my opinion you are not being a good parent.

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I initially felt Mylie 's parents were partly to blame for the road she went down. Those first pictures that came out, her dad should have known what was going on and said NO. But, it is possible he didn't know.

I don't think I could successfully parent either of this kids through their teens. They are in a world I could not protect them from. But, I wouldn't be a part of making it worse.
(And I know! we only have his word that he got it from his mom.)
 

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Everyone needs to remember that our children have their own personalities and brains. They're people that way. Some children are easily guided; some children take that path less traveled into quicksand and fight you while you try to rescue them. We all have an opinion, and we all know what we would do if we were in that situation, but the question is, would you be any more successful? Maybe si, maybe no (nod to John).

I have huge compassion for anyone dealing with a difficult child. I've been fairly lucky myself, but I know that in the blink of an eye and one wrong decision or some weird new friend can send my kids veering off onto Mr. Toad's Magic Ride and I'm flying off the back of their car like a windsock trying to gain purchase and trying to talk sense into the kid while my feet bang and clatter on the rocks behind me!
Oh shiest, ain't it the truth? I'm biting my nails right now with an issue our 22 year old is facing. Will she make the right move? Tune in next week viewers... it remains to be seen. I know I raised her to make the right choice - it's all I can do.