Bieber Busted!!

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Lepplady

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FlakeNoir said:
Now that was my first reaction too--possibly because since I've started moderating I've had to think a little more carefully about photos in general, but also because of what some (*expletives*) people have done to children via the Internet.
But then I thought about it for a moment longer. He's what, 19-20? and has a younger sibling. I have a 19-year-old, a 16-yr-old, a 13-yr-old and a 5-year-old... and if my 5-year-old hadn't seen one of his siblings in a while and decided to go lie down next to his brother and they fell asleep--I would take a picture too and would think nothing of it, because it is a completely innocent situation.

I get the whole bro moment. But they both look nekkid. And that's just wrong.
So how about Dad creeping into the dark room for a Photo of his nekkid sleeping kids.
Nope . Still creepy.
 

FlakeNoir

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I get the whole bro moment. But they both look nekkid. And that's just wrong.
So how about Dad creeping into the dark room for a Photo of his nekkid sleeping kids.
Nope . Still creepy.
My kids sleep shirtless in the warm weather all the time--and in the winter too if their rooms are warm enough, they just prefer it for comfort. It would still be a completely innocent photo/situation from my point of view... now, sharing a shot like this online is a completely different matter--one, because I just don't like to share pictures of my family and two--because he is a famous person and I can imagine what the general public might like to try and make of this... and worse, what people with an inclination toward pedophilia might use it for. (Which is why I had to think long before deciding to leave the message as approved.)

So IMO--taking the photo... no big deal, it's innocent, sharing it on twitter...? Hell no.
 

GNTLGNT

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...I have no problem with taking pics of sleeping kids, as long as they're my own-did it many times when the boys were younger...I DO have a problem with an opportunistic "parent" throwing it out in front of millions...it's creeptastic, AND smacks of pandering the image for public sympathy...."Oh look, he's so CUTE!!!!...he couldn't POSSIBLY be an asshat!".....
 

FlakeNoir

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...I have no problem with taking pics of sleeping kids, as long as they're my own-did it many times when the boys were younger...I DO have a problem with an opportunistic "parent" throwing it out in front of millions...it's creeptastic, AND smacks of pandering the image for public sympathy...."Oh look, he's so CUTE!!!!...he couldn't POSSIBLY be an asshat!".....
I'm wondering if this is part of it too, Scott--a parent is going to love their kid, no matter what trouble they've gotten themselves into, no matter how much of a douche they've been acting. Perhaps Dad or Mum saw this and were taken back to a simpler time in their lives and thought they'd share it to let others know that there can be another side to their wayward boy. They love him.
I just don't think they've thought this through enough.
 

Shasta

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I'm wondering if this is part of it too, Scott--a parent is going to love their kid, no matter what trouble they've gotten themselves into, no matter how much of a douche they've been acting. Perhaps Dad or Mum saw this and were taken back to a simpler time in their lives and thought they'd share it to let others know that there can be another side to their wayward boy. They love him.
I just don't think they've thought this through enough.
That's what I keep thinking as well.

I'm guessing they probably realize that they shouldn't have let their kid get famous so young. They probably realize he's in trouble. They are probably desperate for the world to realize he's just a little boy.

I think it's really sad that we live in such a judgmental world. People are so quick to judge the movements of everyone else. Take a breath, people, and take a good look at yourselves.
 

staropeace

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I think it was just a pic taken of their cute kids with all good intention. Sometimes, we can over re-act. Many of my friends and family would not think twice of putting pics like that on Facebook,etc. I cannot imagine what it would be like to have a famous kids making all those millions. The genie was let out of the bottle when he became a teen idol. It cannot be easy for a teenager to not be tempted to go astray with all of these dollars in his bank account. Just saying.
 

Walter Oobleck

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This photo was taken by the same man who blocked traffic so the kid could drag race? Did that actually happen? Dunno...was in the news. I'm sure he (the father) had good intentions...after all, his world-famous kid wanted to drag race, the old lady gave the kid some pills, so best to block traffic so the S.O.B. doesn't kill himself, much less someone else's innocent son. Sleeping? They could as easily be dead. Or maybe the mother gave them some pills? That was also an item in the Florida.
 

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GNTLGNT

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That's what I keep thinking as well.

I'm guessing they probably realize that they shouldn't have let their kid get famous so young. They probably realize he's in trouble. They are probably desperate for the world to realize he's just a little boy.

I think it's really sad that we live in such a judgmental world. People are so quick to judge the movements of everyone else. Take a breath, people, and take a good look at yourselves.
...I did take a real good look at myself thanks, and my world is wildly imperfect....my youngest son is "troubled" as well...he's into pot pretty heavy, thank the White it's nothing heavier...but he's just shy of turning 18, and without resorting to more legal action and possibly physical confrontation-I have arrived at middle ground with him. He is aware of the risk he's running, and I've told him as much-but he's agreed to stay out of trouble otherwise, and I will accept him at his word, and not go to "Johnny Law". It's far from an elegant compromise, but it's the best I've got in MY world. So, yeah, I'm going to judge others Shasta-I feel that photo is nothing more than a shameless attempt to manipulate the media and public opinion. I raised my son's properly, and with love-sometimes tough love. They were model kids when younger, but as they got older-oddly enough they developed their own thoughts, plans, wants, desires and dreams...Tracy and I gave them a proper start, but can't forever pull the strings....you know I have been blunt and hurt about my kid's actions-hell, I've put it out here often enough-but I never felt that what I did amongst friends was anywhere near the level of cheapjack manipulation Bieber's parents are either purposely or unconsciously putting out there...he's damn near 20 years old, so "little boy" I'm not buying...they can't help but see the path he's been heading down, and as much as you want to always protect them as parents-they will willfully disregard most everything you say after a certain age, if it doesn't fit with their current worldview...at that point, you just pray and let em go...so I CAN look at myself in the mirror and know I did the best I could...warts and all...
 

Shasta

On his shell he holds the earth.
What I don't understand about your post, Scott, is that we know you were a great parent and yet your son's still made some poor choices. Teenagers do that. So why is it so easy for you to judge someone who is likely going through the same thing? Why is taking a picture a manipulation?

I also think our difference in views is that I've been on my own since I was 17 and I thought I knew it all. When I look back I realize how truly young I was at 18,19, 20, hell, 24. So yes. I am going to still consider Justin Beiber a child. Especially because fame causes a fantasy world in which there are no responsibilities and consequences. And for that I feel really bad for him. He's going to have a very tough road ahead, as are his parents, and I'm quite sure not one of them had a clue to what they were getting into.

For years I was a makeup artist to the rich and famous, and more importantly, young. I guess because I've been so close to them I am able to empathize a bit more. It's not a fun life.