I thought it a little ironic that I'd just finished watching SOA when I heard this news...
Flake, my thoughts exactly--I was thinking this was something that came out of SOA when I read this :/ Terrible!
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I thought it a little ironic that I'd just finished watching SOA when I heard this news...
Flake, my thoughts exactly--I was thinking this was something that came out of SOA when I read this :/ Terrible!
I have a diverse family. We have an annual pig roast around Independence Day. Sometimes members of a motorcycle club (some would call them an outlaw gang), friends to my wife’s aunt and uncle (that owns the pig roaster) show up. They like showing off their bullet wounds. But they are told, respectfully as there are kids around, to be on their best behavior or they have to leave. And the uncle is the enforcer. I always have a couple of bottles of Jack Daniels on hand just incase they show. Also, many police officers attend the pig roast, friends of my son-in-law the cop. We’ve never had any problems in 12 years we've been doing the pig roasts. And what’s most interesting is the gang members and the cops usually huddle together under some trees, drinking (although the cops never have more than 1 alcoholic drink), laughing and talking about bikes. The gang members even let the cops jump on their bikes and take them for a spin. Last year 4 extremely good looking girls who just finished competing in a Spartan Race up the road stopped at our pig roast. They saw we were having a party and asked if they could join in. I said sure, everybody’s welcome, as long as they act as family and just have fun. When they were ready to leave that evening they thanked me for a wonderfully crazy time and all the good food and drink, and said nobody back in Ohio would believe the day they had here, so they took lots of pictures.
...you said it right there..."I've seen police shows about them"...a lot of the older bikers are the ones who lead....and I have a white beard and mustache, and am over 50-but I can still kick ass, what's your point?...you don't like them?...fine...I'm not gonna break bread with them either, but I sorta understand the machismo and certainly respect them...I can see the appeal of bikes. I can understand people wanting to ride them, I can understand people wanting to associate with like minded people and be part of a brotherhood, but violent motorcycle gangs - I'm sorry, but them killing each other is not going to cause me to lose much sleep. I wonder how old these people were, the black/Latino gang wars in the West coast of the USA is mostly fought between young men who have a glamorised image of gang life, and by the time they're 30 or so regret their whole lifestyle. The violent bikers just don't seem to grow up, I've seen police shows about them and they all have grey beards or white moustaches and none of them look younger than 40. Those kind of bikers are doing the world a favour cleansing the gene pool a bit by taking themselves out of it.
Hi!
I'm wondering, these biker gang members shot at police officers, intel claims other bikers have been told to travel to Texas and confront police and the gang members are well known to be criminals so, why aren't there a bunch of SWAT, riot police, Hummers armored vehicles out there prepared for what ever the heck can happen?
Just asking.
Have a good one!
Like I said, no problem with bikers or having a white beard and moustache - I'm sure my beard will ne grey one day too, my issue is with the people who think that an essential part of being a part of a motorcycle club is fighting and killing....you said it right there..."I've seen police shows about them"...a lot of the older bikers are the ones who lead....and I have a white beard and mustache, and am over 50-but I can still kick ass, what's your point?...you don't like them?...fine...I'm not gonna break bread with them either, but I sorta understand the machismo and certainly respect them...
...now THAT I can agree with....Like I said, no problem with bikers or having a white beard and moustache - I'm sure my beard will ne grey one day too, my issue is with the people who think that an essential part of being a part of a motorcycle club is fighting and killing.
...the people who think that an essential part of being a part of a motorcycle club is fighting and killing.
OK, I'll try this one more time.
What???
"essential part...", maybe just a little strong, maybe ya think?
Now I don't know about you, but me, I've known quite a few bikers in my day, club members, from small local clubs, larger clubs with national club affiliations, and from the big bad rep nationals, known a couple "enforcers", one in particular was peanuttier than a outhouse rat, and I ain't never met or known a single one that fits the description of who you just described...hmm, maybe I'm just lucky?
Most all ain't no different than most everybody else, got jobs, a family, morgages and car payments, bitch about the same things yada yada yada...ya just don't spit on their colors, no way no how, and that don't take no guess work, I'm pretty sure most everbody, with any modicum of common sense, knows this, as it's pretty common knowledge, no secret there is what I'm sayin'.
Me, I ain't never had one problem, and though I've often been mistaken for a biker, I sure as hell am not, don't much care for bugs smackin' in the kisser at 50 mph, prefer cowboyin' the heavy Chevy with four tires surrounded by metal, two wheels on America's too fast paced, and cell phone blabberin' roads, no thank you very much.
That's just plumb crazy in my opinion, and I never hesitate to mention that when I'm asked by a 'hard core biker', if, or what, I ride, and yet here I am, live and kickin'....hmmm, got my grill work bashed in by a few Catholic college 'young republicans' what decided I needed more glass ashtray in my diet, perhaps you have them confused
OK, I'll try this one more time.
At no point have I said all, most, or even a lot of bikers act or think like that. I said some associate violence with being a part of the gang. You can know a load of bikers who are nice people - I'm not disputing that, but you can't say that biker gangs have not been known to fight over territorial dominance with a fatal outcome. It's just happened in Waco. It may not be as prevelint as it once was, but there are still bikers out there with the mind set of "this is ours, get out or we'll kill you", just like every other type of gang.
There is a show called The FBI Files, which documents real cases. I remember one case where they were trying to infiltrate a biker gang but couldn't go undercover within the gang because they're initiation for new members was attacking a rival biker gang member.
So yes, there are some bike gangs for whom violence is part and parcel of the gang life.
I have an acquaintance, youngish woman, single, 2 kids, took in her addict sisters two very small children, worked 40 hours at fast food, no insurance and ended up with breast cancer.OK, I'll try this one more time.
At no point have I said all, most, or even a lot of bikers act or think like that. I said some associate violence with being a part of the gang. You can know a load of bikers who are nice people - I'm not disputing that, but you can't say that biker gangs have not been known to fight over territorial dominance with a fatal outcome. It's just happened in Waco. It may not be as prevelint as it once was, but there are still bikers out there with the mind set of "this is ours, get out or we'll kill you", just like every other type of gang.
There is a show called The FBI Files, which documents real cases. I remember one case where they were trying to infiltrate a biker gang but couldn't go undercover within the gang because they're initiation for new members was attacking a rival biker gang member.
So yes, there are some bike gangs for whom violence is part and parcel of the gang life.
I have an acquaintance, youngish woman, single, 2 kids, took in her addict sisters two very small children, worked 40 hours at fast food, no insurance and ended up with breast cancer.
A biker group raised 3000 for her.
Good for them, they're not the people I'm talking about.I have an acquaintance, youngish woman, single, 2 kids, took in her addict sisters two very small children, worked 40 hours at fast food, no insurance and ended up with breast cancer.
A biker group raised 3000 for her.