In Lockett's case, I don't think 40 minutes of suffering was enough. I haven't read much about it but I think he confessed.
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To that I agree... Sort of like the BLM/Bundy thing, eh?
To that I agree... Sort of like the BLM/Bundy thing, eh?
My catchphrase for this is:Sure. Somewhat different stakes, but sure. It's all a big, interconnected world.
Ahhh, my former home state. Hey, the OU (my alma mater, well one of them anyway) football team has been pretty awesome over the years!
I always hear the word justice bandied about with this topic. If that's what people want, they live on the wrong planet. Is this a deterrent or just a show of force to assuage fears and satiate the victims? I don't know. I do know that murder and rape haven't stopped much, so not sure it's been effective. But as far as justice, unless it was the victim's family that got to kill the guy, not much justice in it really.
Why don't we buy an island and send all of them there instead. Have a Lord of the Flies showdown. Those that win, we send in to kill terrorists.
I owe you another beer someday sir...very well said. I keep hearing about "moral" plane? Where were the person's morals that killed a kid, or raped then strangled a woman like the guy who was just put to death in Oklahoma? Morality would have been putting a bullet in his head and saving everyone some money and would have also been a helluva lot more merciful than anything he showed his victim....Capital punishment doesn't work as a deterrent because it takes so freakin' long to deliver the "death blow"...for god's sake, there are people on Death Row that will die natural deaths before they're executed because of our screwed up judicial system...I may well horrify some-but I wish the guy had suffered longer, considering his crime-he died easy...and how in the hell we ever got into this drug induced death business is beyond me...rope and bullets worked for years, are a hell of a lot cheaper and pretty damn reliable...and AG?..I don't know where you're getting your supposition that it costs more to execute than house a condemned inmate....and I agree, it won't bring the victim(s)back, but the killer(s) don't deserve to live off the taxpayer while the families are bereft of their loved ones...work around this population and you'll see what I mean...it's easy to say "Oh the poor man" until God forbid-someone is brutally attacked or murdered...then the tune in the dance hall changes quick...I don't mean to offend anyone, but as far as I'm concerned...kill em all and let the devil have a party...
The thing about the DNA being used to exonerate people is also a problem as there are likely some errors made in the collection back in the seventies,eighties,etc,and and the value of these are questionable..while I do approve of people who are demonstrably innocent,beyond a doubt,being released,I would bet my hi hat that there are also some guilty folks that have been released simply on the lack or presence of questionable DNA.DNA is trumpeted as this great crime solver but steps have to be taken to insure it is collected correctly,without cross contamination,and a clear concise chain of custody of the evidence through collection,to storage,to introduction at trial..am betting there were lots of errors back in the day..wanted to thank all for responding,as this is a tough issue and no easy answers are readily available.....and again that goes right back to my whole point of it takes too long to carry out the sentence...and DNA?, I agree it's horrible when mistakes are made, but technology is much improved...these older cases are before such technology or in it's infancy...
Why don't we buy an island and send all of them there instead. Have a Lord of the Flies showdown. Those that win, we send in to kill terrorists.
They tried that. It's called Australia.Why don't we buy an island and send all of them there instead.
Yeah, and now we have shrimp on the barbie and Foster's. So how could this be bad???They tried that. It's called Australia.
Detroit, helluva town. At least Jack White is from there, so they got that going for them...Or go the “Escape From New York” route. But instead of Manhattan, make it Detroit. Half the work on its ambiance is already done.
It’s been a number of years since I’ve visited Detroit. Is it still true that the only thing that grows there is the Crime Rate?Detroit, helluva town. At least Jack White is from there, so they got that going for them...
I got murdered twice when I was there last time.It’s been a number of years since I’ve visited Detroit. Is it still true that the only thing that grows there is the Crime Rate?
Only twice? So how many of your 9 lives have you used up?I got murdered twice when I was there last time.
...and now I'm hungry for barbecue.Yeah, and now we have shrimp on the barbie and Foster's. So how could this be bad???
I am a Leo...Only twice? So how many of your 9 lives have you used up?
1) If they can put a dog or cat down with one shot that works instantly, costs thirty bucks and doesn't seem to cause them any pain, why can't they do it for people?