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Lepplady

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I have no idea what did or did not happen between Johnny and his current soon-to-be-ex.

But

I knew three other girls who dated a guy I dated. I believe them when they say he never hit them. He never threatened them. He never raped them. I believe them. But that does not mean he didn't do those things to me.

I admire Vanessa for coming forward (I actually do believe her, that he was never violent to her). However, if doesn't alter whether or not anything happened with anyone else.
Very true. It only takes once.
But the fact that she threatened him with exactly this (both face to face and through a letter from her lawyer) if he didn't give her everything she wanted pretty much ruins any credibility she had.
 

AnnaMarie

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Very true. It only takes once.
But the fact that she threatened him with exactly this (both face to face and through a letter from her lawyer) if he didn't give her everything she wanted pretty much ruins any credibility she had.

A lawyer wrote a threatening letter?

One of these two people did something illegal. Either he hit her or she falsely accused him of it. I would like to believe he is not guilty. But up and walking out on his long time partner, and more importantly, suddenly getting a fair bit of bad publicity, especially the whole PSA thing.

It's possible he has been being dragged around by little Johnny, but it seems more than that...the fact that the PSA was necessary at all was weird. And the way it was done was weirder. He seemed drugged out. I don't think he's the man he was before.

I also don't believe a person who gets their buttons pushed, especially when under stress, and throws something in anger is the equivalent of a spouse abuser. (I don't know if that's what happened. But I think that's the accusation?)

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IMO His ex would be crazy to take him back.
 

Lepplady

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A lawyer wrote a threatening letter?

One of these two people did something illegal. Either he hit her or she falsely accused him of it. I would like to believe he is not guilty. But up and walking out on his long time partner, and more importantly, suddenly getting a fair bit of bad publicity, especially the whole PSA thing.

It's possible he has been being dragged around by little Johnny, but it seems more than that...the fact that the PSA was necessary at all was weird. And the way it was done was weirder. He seemed drugged out. I don't think he's the man he was before.

I also don't believe a person who gets their buttons pushed, especially when under stress, and throws something in anger is the equivalent of a spouse abuser. (I don't know if that's what happened. But I think that's the accusation?)

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IMO His ex would be crazy to take him back.
I'd have to find the article, and that wouldn't be easy since lawyers are firing back and forth today, so it's all over the place. But I'll look for it. The way it was worded was that it would be best to settle things quickly in order to avoid a public spectacle. It was carefully worded, but it was basically "Pay up or else."
I'll see if I can find it.
 

Lepplady

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Side note:
The day after court, Heard is all smiles arm-in-arm with a friend leaving a meeting with her lawyer.
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She looks just HEARTBROKEN, doesn't she?
 

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Okay, I don't care enough to look deeply into it, but back in that long ago and far away time when I was able to like actors, and before he went and loused up Willy Wonka and blasphemed Barnabas, I rather liked Johnny. I am glad it is being said he did not, and would not, commit abuse. But I saw an item branding him a fallen movie star. Why? Surely not because some skank accused him of abuse which is not even proven and everyone who knows him says he did not do? Why is he suddenly no longer a big star?
 

kingricefan

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Okay, I don't care enough to look deeply into it, but back in that long ago and far away time when I was able to like actors, and before he went and loused up Willy Wonka and blasphemed Barnabas, I rather liked Johnny. I am glad it is being said he did not, and would not, commit abuse. But I saw an item branding him a fallen movie star. Why? Surely not because some skank accused him of abuse which is not even proven and everyone who knows him says he did not do? Why is he suddenly no longer a big star?
His last few movies have been flops and in LaLaLand, more than 1 flop in a row spells trouble.....
 

skimom2

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Side note:
The day after court, Heard is all smiles arm-in-arm with a friend leaving a meeting with her lawyer.
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She looks just HEARTBROKEN, doesn't she?
I'm not taking sides (no one has any idea what goes really on in anyone else's relationship, regardless of who is popular and who isn't), but that seems unfair. IF it's true, is she not supposed to ever laugh again? She's with a friend. I've had some absolute **** days and times in my life, but the fact that I found light somewhere and smiled once in a while doesn't mean that whatever was crap didn't happen.
 

Lepplady

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I'm not taking sides (no one has any idea what goes really on in anyone else's relationship, regardless of who is popular and who isn't), but that seems unfair. IF it's true, is she not supposed to ever laugh again? She's with a friend. I've had some absolute **** days and times in my life, but the fact that I found light somewhere and smiled once in a while doesn't mean that whatever was crap didn't happen.
For normal, people, sure. Finding bright moments in dark days. I totally feel where you're coming from.

But she's in the middle of a multi-million dollar dance, where she's playing the poor victimized little wife. She needs to be careful to keep up the facade if the charade's going to pay off for her.

No. I'm not biased at all. Why do you ask?
 

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I don't like her. It's no secret. I've not cared for her since long before she took up with Johnny, so that's not it. I just don't. She comes across to me as entitled, one of those beautiful people that expects the world to be handed to them on a silver platter because they're beautiful... and it usually is. A bit full of herself, like she can just do (or say) anything she wants and get away with it. I don't care for that quality in a person.


No. I'm not biased at all. Why do you ask?[/QUOTE]

It just sounds to me that you are biased. =D

I didn't read anything in skimom2 post about you being biased.
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Lepplady

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Lepplady said:
No. I'm not biased at all. Why do you ask?

It just sounds to me that you are biased. =D

I didn't read anything in skimom2 post about you being biased.
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i know. skimom didn't say anything. :frog: I was admitting my bias up front. The more I read on both sides, the less credible Depp's Ex's claims seem.
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AnnaMarie

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Just wanted to point out, the alleged assault happened in December. It would not have been the result of stress/depression over his mother's death.

The pictures at lawyer were taken in May, so bruises wouldn't still be there.
 

Lepplady

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She's alleging assault not only last December, but as the days go by, there are more and more accusations of assault throughout the en tire relationship, in more and more severe degrees. Now she's saying that he once choked her and she feared for her life. The more time goes by, the more stuff she comes up with that he did to her.

Come to find out that HEARD was arrested for domestic abuse against the girl she pretended to break up with when she hooked up with Johnny. She wasn't prosecuted for it, but she was arrested and booked. She had to mind her pints and quarts for awhile to keep the courts from reinstating the charges.

There's nothing saying that an abuser can't also be a victim, but when the accuser actually has a history of domestic abuse and the accusee doesn't, it looks like a case of the pot calling the kettle black.
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AnnaMarie

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Lepplady I'm actually not convinced either way.

Prior to these accusations I was already thinking he seemed drugged out. And that is something others that know them are saying. (It doesn't appear to be just her friends saying it.) with hard drugs...all bets are off. The most passive people can become abusive.

However, I have not seen anything that I would consider "proof" of drug use.
 

Lepplady

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Lepplady I'm actually not convinced either way.

Prior to these accusations I was already thinking he seemed drugged out. And that is something others that know them are saying. (It doesn't appear to be just her friends saying it.) with hard drugs...all bets are off. The most passive people can become abusive.

However, I have not seen anything that I would consider "proof" of drug use.
Oh, I agree. Absolutely. He's most likely chemically altered. But whether or not he's using/drinking isn't the question, here. It's whether or not he's been beating her up.

He's got a long history on and off of drugs. This isn't his first topple off of the water wagon. But he still has no history of beating up on women. Stoned, drunk or sober.

Just because he's (probably) using or drinking, that doesn't automatically make him a woman beater. No matter how much she wishes it did.