The Ka-tet Cantina 2

[Doc Creed]

Yes, but I'd have a hard time deciding which mistake.

Yes, but I'd be curious what Marty McFly errors I'd make. For instance, let's pretend I go back and save a kid who drowned in a pool. This same kid's sister was so grieved that she became a doctor and has saved hundereds of lives. If I save her drowning sibling, and negate her motivation for becoming a doctor, I've saved one life and lost hundereds that would potentially be saved. Hmmmm. It's a quandary. An impossibility, but still a quandary.

 

[blunthead]

Yes, but I'd be curious what Marty McFly errors I'd make. For instance, let's pretend I go back and save a kid who drowned in a pool. This same kid's sister was so grieved that she became a doctor and has saved hundereds of lives. If I save her drowning sibling, and negate her motivation for becoming a doctor, I've saved one life and lost hundereds that would potentially be saved. Hmmmm. It's a quandary. An impossibility, but still a quandary.

But instead then the kid whose life you saved grows up to be a doctor due to his/her appreciation for life.

 

[Doc Creed]

But instead then the kid who0se life you saved grows up to be a doctor due to his/her appreciation for life.

Yeah, I thought of that. It's quite the paradox, and really the repercussions would be unknowable, and perhaps, incalculable to our human brain. Fun to imagine, though...which reminds me. I need to get Hulu before Monday, lol.

 

[blunthead]

Yeah, I thought of that. It's quite the paradox, and really the repercussions would be unknowable, and perhaps, incalculable to our human brain. Fun to imagine, though...which reminds me. I need to get Hulu before Monday, lol.

Yes, per 11.22.63.

 

[DiO'Bolic]

Take a look at the listings.......

Category:Characters - Stephen King Wiki - Wikia

Nope. Obviously King hates us Z's.

 

[blunthead]

Nope. Obviously King hates us Z's.

He's afraid of you.

 

[Spideyman]

Nope. Obviously King hates us Z's.

DiO'Bolic you have forgotten:

Spoiler

"Beans, beans, the musical fruit, the more you eat, the more you toot."”
— Zoltan

Zoltan

By GSB​

Alias​

Occupation​

Pet​

Relatives​

Brown (owner)​

Species​

Raven​

Affiliation​

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Status​

Alive​

Appearances​

The Gunslinger​

Mentioned​

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Zoltan is a raven who is a pet of Brown. He is able to speak and utters mainly profanities and wisecracks even though Brown once tried to teach him the Lord's Prayer. He ate the eyes of Roland Deschain's mule that died.[/SPOILER]

 

[blunthead]

DiO'Bolic you have forgotten:

Spoiler

"Beans, beans, the musical fruit, the more you eat, the more you toot."”
— Zoltan

Zoltan

By GSB​

Alias​

Occupation
Pet
Relatives
Brown (owner)
Species
Raven
Affiliation

Status
Alive
Appearances
The Gunslinger
Mentioned​

Zoltan is a raven who is a pet of Brown. He is able to speak and utters mainly profanities and wisecracks even though Brown once tried to teach him the Lord's Prayer. He ate the eyes of Roland Deschain's mule that died.[/SPOILER]

And Zelda.

 

[Doc Creed]

Nope. Obviously King hates us Z's.

Zack Denbrough, Zalia Jaffords, Zelda, Zeke (from the Raft) and Spidey mentioned Zoltan, lol.

 

[Lepplady]

Yes, but I'd have a hard time deciding which mistake.

I popped up with a theory that nullifies the notions of paradox and/or changing the future by changing the past. It's pretty much the same thing as the theory that every possible outcome to an action happens in parallel alternate realities. But mine adds that if I go back and kill my grandfather, it doesn't create a paradox because the timeline I came from still exists. At the point of change - the killing of my grandfather, a new reality is created. In that timeline, I never exist. But the original timeline, the one I came from, still exists. The new, grandfather-less timeline splinters off without changing the primary one.
So, according to this theory, it wouldn't matter if I went back and changed something. It wouldn't change the life I've lived. The only way change can happen is if I create that reality with my own actions now.
Clear as mud, right?

 

[blunthead]

I popped up with a theory that nullifies the notions of paradox and/or changing the future by changing the past. It's pretty much the same thing as the theory that every possible outcome to an action happens in parallel alternate realities. But mine adds that if I go back and kill my grandfather, it doesn't create a paradox because the timeline I came from still exists. At the point of change - the killing of my grandfather, a new reality is created. In that timeline, I never exist. But the original timeline, the one I came from, still exists. The new, grandfather-less timeline splinters off without changing the primary one.
So, according to this theory, it wouldn't matter if I went back and changed something. It wouldn't change the life I've lived. The only way change can happen is if I create that reality with my own actions now.
Clear as mud, right?

Interesting.

 

[Doc Creed]

I popped up with a theory that nullifies the notions of paradox and/or changing the future by changing the past. It's pretty much the same thing as the theory that every possible outcome to an action happens in parallel alternate realities. But mine adds that if I go back and kill my grandfather, it doesn't create a paradox because the timeline I came from still exists. At the point of change - the killing of my grandfather, a new reality is created. In that timeline, I never exist. But the original timeline, the one I came from, still exists. The new, grandfather-less timeline splinters off without changing the primary one.
So, according to this theory, it wouldn't matter if I went back and changed something. It wouldn't change the life I've lived. The only way change can happen is if I create that reality with my own actions now.
Clear as mud, right?

Hmmmm. I've seen movies with this sort of criterion but I always have a few questions. If you have a different soul in each alternate manifestation of 'yourself' then how are you really 'YOU'...different souls? The alternate universe theory always seems to diminish the importance of the reality we accept as NOW. If it is infinite and there are a number of infinite possibilities to 'your self' then what does that mean? It's sort of a spin on nihilism, because, ultimately, no choice you made in any given version would matter...Because there are an infinite supply of choices. Causes and effects. This is some of the questions that I had while trying to comprehend the Dark Tower.

 

[Doc Creed]

 

[muskrat]

So I can't be my own Grampa?

 

[Lepplady]

Hmmmm. I've seen movies with this sort of criterion but I always have a few questions. If you have a different soul in each alternate manifestation of 'yourself' then how are you really 'YOU'...different souls? The alternate universe theory always seems to diminish the importance of the reality we accept as NOW. If it is infinite and there are a number of infinite possibilities to 'your self' then what does that mean? It's sort of a spin on nihilism, because, ultimately, no choice you made in any given version would matter...Because there are an infinite supply of choices. Causes and effects. This is some of the questions that I had while trying to comprehend the Dark Tower.

Every choice matters. Not because of any impact it might have on the past (which is none) but because of where it takes you from here.

As for the soul, I don't know a better way to say it than this: There's only one soul because there's only one me. They may be different realities, but I remain myself. Perhaps the difference isn't the soul, it's awareness of the reality that particular "me" is in. They're all me, all at the same time, but this is the reality I'm aware of.
Dunno if that makes sense, but it's what I'm running with.

 

[Lepplady]

So I can't be my own Grampa?

That's the beauty of it. You absolutely can. I mean, if you're a dude...

 

[muskrat]

That's the beauty of it. You absolutely can. I mean, if you're a dude...

Now I've got a headache.

 

[Lepplady]

So I can't be my own Grampa?

That's the beauty of it. You absolutely can. I mean, if you're a dude...

Now I've got a headache.

...And if you really, REALLY like your gramma...

 

[not_nadine]

Think I am a Grandpa or maybe a grandma. Or maybe a train. I dunno.. A Bear? Old mother fightin in the sky?

A Burrito, that's it.

I am BURRITO.

 

[Doc Creed]

Every choice matters. Not because of any impact it might have on the past (which is none) but because of where it takes you from here.

As for the soul, I don't know a better way to say it than this: There's only one soul because there's only one me. They may be different realities, but I remain myself. Perhaps the difference isn't the soul, it's awareness of the reality that particular "me" is in. They're all me, all at the same time, but this is the reality I'm aware of.
Dunno if that makes sense, but it's what I'm running with.

LOL...ikr? Yeah, I understand this concept and the way you posited it, but can't grasp the idea of it, I guess. The diminishing of the id or the self still bothers me. I can hear Pucker already...lol.