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Legally, they cannot stop protesters because of ... well, you know, Bill of Rights. Regardless of whether there is a pandemic, people should still have the choice to do their constitutional rights, if not, it's simple, stay away. But no one should dictate or say weather or not it is right for someone to protest. The people of the US should consider themselves lucky that they are in a country which allows them to speak their minds, this is a luxary which is not the case in nearly every other nation on this planet, mine included.
I call BS. Civil protest is one thing but when the protests are endangering other people's lives, they are being irresponsible and causing a public health endangerment issue. This attitude of I can do whatever I want whenever I want to do it and screw the rest of you goes beyond the pale ESPECIALLY given the current health situation.

And for the record, it's whether not weather. The weather today is sunny with a high of 96F in my forecast but whether it gets that hot remains to be seen.
 

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I call BS. Civil protest is one thing but when the protests are endangering other people's lives, they are being irresponsible and causing a public health endangerment issue. This attitude of I can do whatever I want whenever I want to do it and screw the rest of you goes beyond the pale ESPECIALLY given the current health situation.

And for the record, it's whether not weather. The weather today is sunny with a high of 96F in my forecast but whether it gets that hot remains to be seen.
So needed that last sentence!! :m_applause:
 

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I suffered a death threat today while shopping. Someone that had overindulged in either drugs or drink i think. I didn't touch the guy, i kept distance and i was before him in the line when he suddenly starts to scream threats "If you come close to me i'll effing kill you and i might do it anyway" The storeowner told him not to scream but he conrinued and kept saying antagonistic tings towards me. I kept my mouth shut, to talk back would only have lead to an escalation, paid and walked away. Behind me i heard him screaming "i stand by what i said". Not that i felt especially threatened but its not nice to shop in an environment like that.
That could have gotten out of hand even more so really glad to hear you didn't suffer any physical harm along with the verbal abuse. Gave a whole new meaning to stay safe, stay healthy.
 

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Beaches open in parts of florida!!
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I suffered a death threat today while shopping. Someone that had overindulged in either drugs or drink i think. I didn't touch the guy, i kept distance and i was before him in the line when he suddenly starts to scream threats "If you come close to me i'll effing kill you and i might do it anyway" The storeowner told him not to scream but he conrinued and kept saying antagonistic tings towards me. I kept my mouth shut, to talk back would only have lead to an escalation, paid and walked away. Behind me i heard him screaming "i stand by what i said". Not that i felt especially threatened but its not nice to shop in an environment like that.
So sorry to hear this - in a case like that I think they should have called security - sounds like your attacker had some major mental health issues.
 

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I call BS. Civil protest is one thing but when the protest are endangering other people's lives, they are being irresponsible and causing a public health endangerment issue. This attitude of I can do whatever I want whenever I want to do it and screw the rest of you goes beyond the pale ESPECIALLY given the current health situation.

And for the record, it's whether not weather. The weather today is sunny with a high of 96F in my forecast but whether it gets that hot remains to be seen.
The protesters are only risking their own lives, and they have the right to do so, no one can force them to leave, so anything that occurs afterwards is in their own hands, it should be thier decision to make. Apologies about the grammer, English isn't my first language, its Scots then Scots Gaelic.
 

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The protesters are only risking their own lives, and they have the right to do so, no one can force them to leave, so anything that occurs afterwards is in their own hands, it should be thier decision to make. Apologies about the grammer, English isn't my first language, its Scots then Scots Gaelic.
No, they aren't. Because who's to know if someone there is asymptomatic and they're standing right next to them. They then become infected themselves and then go on to spread it to even more people. It's called super-spreading event here. It's totally irresponsible, selfish and endangering many more people than themselves.
 

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The wife and I have been having a heated discussion about wearing masks. She refuses to do it and chides me for wearing one. (Luckily she hasn’t gone out of the house for the most part in weeks). I say I’m somewhat doing it for myself because of my health issues but more so for others as I don’t want to chance getting someone else sick. She says... well I’m not wearing one! I said fine but don’t call me to bail you out of jail, cause I won’t do it. I’m in the doghouse once again.
 

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No, they aren't. Because who's to say someone there is asymptomatic and they're standing right next to them. They then become infected themselves and then go on to spread it to even more people. It's called super-spreading event here. It's totally irresponsible, selfish and endangering many more people than themselves.
Regardless of the morality of their actions, the original point I was making is that from a Legal standpoint it is impossible for any Government sanctioned force to break up the protesters, because of the Bill of Rights, the Constitution, etc. So, their is no legal mandate to stop them, so long as they are peaceful, which they are. The Bill of Rights, even in a pandemic, is still law, regardless.
 
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The wife and I have been having a heated discussion about wearing masks. She refuses to do it and chides me for wearing one. (Luckily she hasn’t gone out of the house for the most part in weeks). I say I’m somewhat doing it for myself because of my health issues but more so for others as I don’t want to chance getting someone else sick. She says... well I’m not wearing one! I said fine but don’t call me to bail you out of jail, cause I won’t do it. I’m in the doghouse once again.
I got a room you can stay in, Dio. :) Your wife might have a point though, many sources are talking about the ineffectuality of masks, plus you need to replace them every time you use one.
 

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Talking about nutjobs, our local police have said crime levels have not gone up here during all this except for domestic violence cases. Sad and scary to think there are that many women and kids dealing with that kind of threat on top of everything else.

I wonder if it is the same elsewhere.
Its terrible. Their is a special place in hell for men who beat women.
 

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Regardless of the morality of their actions, the original point I was making is that from a Legal standpoint it is impossible for any Government sanctioned force to break up the protesters, becaus of the Bill of Rights, the Constitution, etc. So, their is no legal mandate to stop them, so long as they are peaceful, which they are. The Bill of Rights, even in a pandemic, is still law, regardless.
In some cases, even given the Bill of Rights, groups have to request a permit to hold a public demonstration which can be refused so there is a legal standpoint and precedence that not ALL protests are given carte blanche to assemble in a public setting.
 
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