Doesn't hold up to repeated viewing

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Gerald

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I decided to wait for the blu-ray rather than see it in the theatre, especially since the director announced there will be an extended cut (although it seems they will put out the theatrical cut first). Also the less waiting time there is for the second part.
It'll come out here at the end of January, although whether to buy it then or still wait for the director's cut is a hard choice. Sometimes these director's cuts fall through also and never appear. It seems the deleted scenes will be on the theatrical cut blu-ray too, so I don't know if there will be any new stuff on the director's cut, or just those deleted scenes reinstated in the movie.

Here's more on the extras and deleted scenes:

IT movie gets 11 deleted and extended scenes on the DVD and Blu-ray release
 
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GeorgieFan2003

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I decided to wait for the blu-ray rather than see it in the theatre, especially since the director announced there will be an extended cut (although it seems they will put out the theatrical cut first). Also the less waiting time there is for the second part.
It'll come out here at the end of January, although whether to buy it then or still wait for the director's cut is a hard choice. Sometimes these director's cuts fall through also and never appear. It seems the deleted scenes will be on the theatrical cut blu-ray too, so I don't know if there will be any new stuff on the director's cut, or just those deleted scenes reinstated in the movie.

Here's more on the extras and deleted scenes:

IT movie gets 11 deleted and extended scenes on the DVD and Blu-ray release

Well there is one deleted scene on the Blu-Ray that won't make the extended cut. But there could be more footage we won't see till the Extended cut. I will look into it when it comes out to see what's been added. I wonder if one of the things they are waiting for is for Part 2 to be in production when they release it. I also wonder if any of the actors will get to have new interviews or if any of the ones that weren't interviewed on the current one will get interviews on the extended cut.
 

Gerald

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The title of this article is a bit misleading, as they only say the director's cut will arrive 'somewhere' in 2018.

IT: Director's Cut Has a Release Date for 2018 | Collider

Just as with Dark Tower it's disappointing there is no director's commentary, although in this case it could be because it will be on the director's cut, which would be the most logical cut for the director to comment on.
When I already have a theatrical cut of a movie I seldom buy the director's cut later - unless they've added a lot of other extras too, or it dropped significantly in price, or it's a particularly big favourite.
 

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One scene we know about that was filmed for Part 1 that is not on the blu-ray involves IT sometime in the 1600s, and it involves a baby. That could be something that makes it way on the director's cut, but they may still save that for Chapter 2. Since that is supposed to have more of IT's origins, so it makes sense for it to be there.

I do wonder if there are more extended scenes than we've seen. Don't know if anyone here knows this, but Andy posted a few drawings he did for IT on his instagram account. One of them is a drawing of the George/Pennywise scene.
It depicts Pennywise first sniffing Georgie's arm, and he looks like he's protesting, then it shows the killmouth.
I've always thought that scene seemed kind of abrubt, and parts seemed to be missing. I always wondered why there was no talk of floating in this scene since its so iconic with both the mini-series, and book.
 

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Having seen it at the theater, and now at home, "It" crumbles under it's own pressure.

"It" fails to emotionally invest the viewer in much beyond Georgie's death. Bill Denbrough is miscast or is not written as the strong thread of the group the way he should be. Mike Hanlon is reduced to token black; Stan Uris token Jew. There is no sense of alchemy in Ben and Mike joining the Losers club...just moving from scene to scene like a power-point presentation. Beverly Marsh's love triangle is featured and resolved without any weight or investment. "It" becomes a series of under-drawn vignettes loosely tied together by Excellent portrayal of Pennywise by what's-his-face.

80's nostalgia is tired and rings false here, seemingly an attempt to grab some fire from "Stranger Things" phenomenon without really investing in the time period in any meaningful way.

It's easy to mistake this for an excellent adaptation as certain features really do capture the source material. "Derry" is perfect, the Barrens...perfect...the color palette, perfect. Beverly Marsh...perfect or close enough. The score is great and fits the mood. When all is said and done, however, "It" is smoke and mirrors, and repeated viewing proves this out.

5 out of 10.
Guess we can’t all like the same things - what a boring world it would be if we all did.
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I'm re-watching the mini-series now, and man, it really scratches the "It" Itch a lot more than the film. The only real problems with it are the limitations of a 1990 television budget, which ultimately bleeds into the actors and director and their tv sensibilities. But they manage to bring more heart to it even if it's cheesy and cringeworthy now and then.
 

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I'm re-watching the mini-series now, and man, it really scratches the "It" Itch a lot more than the film. The only real problems with it are the limitations of a 1990 television budget, which ultimately bleeds into the actors and director and their tv sensibilities. But they manage to bring more heart to it even if it's cheesy and cringeworthy now and then.

Glad you enjoy the mini-series, I enjoy it as well.
 

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I'm re-watching the mini-series now, and man, it really scratches the "It" Itch a lot more than the film. The only real problems with it are the limitations of a 1990 television budget, which ultimately bleeds into the actors and director and their tv sensibilities. But they manage to bring more heart to it even if it's cheesy and cringeworthy now and then.

Hey man, welcome again to the Forum. I don't agree with your analysis of the film, but please keep posting. As much as I enjoy talking to the other members here who share my views, I also enjoy engaging those who don't. I like hearing about other people's perspectives on a film or book. Looking forward to chatting with you more on the Board.
 

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Hey man, welcome again to the Forum. I don't agree with your analysis of the film, but please keep posting. As much as I enjoy talking to the other members here who share my views, I also enjoy engaging those who don't. I like hearing about other people's perspectives on a film or book. Looking forward to chatting with you more on the Board.

I enjoy hearing other opinions as well. I hope no one is offended by mine.
 

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Hmmm. Maybe I won't like it anymore after my fourth viewing.
So, I think it really depends on what you get out of the Source Material. For me, the mini-series offers a good 80% of my most important aspects of the novel while perhaps failing in the other areas. The film offers up a straight 50% of all elements, so it touches more bases but not as strongly where it matters (IMO). "May not look like much but she's got it where it counts, Kid..." YMMV.

I maintain that if you want to do *anything* right these days, I mean 100% right...you need to be a Series on a subscription service.
To really see how a book is done right, check out "Outlander" on Starz.

Movies are kind of done, IMO. What's the point of confining a story to two hours, if you are invested in the characters and the premise can be upheld?

"Star Trek" is a good example of this... They recast and rebooted only to be confined to "cinematic" sensibilities and time constraints. Why not just reboot on TV with a cast that will stick around and play it out? "Discovery" not withstanding.

Anyway, I digress...
 

GeorgieFan2003

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So, I think it really depends on what you get out of the Source Material. For me, the mini-series offers a good 80% of my most important aspects of the novel while perhaps failing in the other areas. The film offers up a straight 50% of all elements, so it touches more bases but not as strongly where it matters (IMO). "May not look like much but she's got it where it counts, Kid..." YMMV.

I maintain that if you want to do *anything* right these days, I mean 100% right...you need to be a Series on a subscription service.
To really see how a book is done right, check out "Outlander" on Starz.

Movies are kind of done, IMO. What's the point of confining a story to two hours, if you are invested in the characters and the premise can be upheld?

"Star Trek" is a good example of this... They recast and rebooted only to be confined to "cinematic" sensibilities and time constraints. Why not just reboot on TV with a cast that will stick around and play it out? "Discovery" not withstanding.

Anyway, I digress...

TV shows are great for alot of stuff, but movies can work too. I think it just depends on how it's adapted. To me the new IT works, so did the mini-series.
 

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So, I think it really depends on what you get out of the Source Material. For me, the mini-series offers a good 80% of my most important aspects of the novel while perhaps failing in the other areas. The film offers up a straight 50% of all elements, so it touches more bases but not as strongly where it matters (IMO). "May not look like much but she's got it where it counts, Kid..." YMMV.

I maintain that if you want to do *anything* right these days, I mean 100% right...you need to be a Series on a subscription service.
To really see how a book is done right, check out "Outlander" on Starz.

Movies are kind of done, IMO. What's the point of confining a story to two hours, if you are invested in the characters and the premise can be upheld?

"Star Trek" is a good example of this... They recast and rebooted only to be confined to "cinematic" sensibilities and time constraints. Why not just reboot on TV with a cast that will stick around and play it out? "Discovery" not withstanding.

Anyway, I digress...


I certainly won't argue the merits of TV/Netflix/etc. For fans of the book, it's the only way we'd ever get the entire story. But even then, people would complain that something didn't make it in.

But....

We didn't get that, we got a movie, so we need to judge it on its own merits. For me, the movie worked. It really nailed two things that it needed to for me - the friendships and Pennywise. Sure, I wish more of the book actually made it, and I didn't agree with a couple things the movie did - but I will say it worked for the film. It captured the heart of the book, and managed to do so with a limitation of two something hours.

As a long (long) time fan of the book, I could have (and still could) pick apart the movie for hours. But I chose to take what was made and find the things I really enjoyed. I don't expect that to change when I pick up the movie next week.
 

GeorgieFan2003

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I certainly won't argue the merits of TV/Netflix/etc. For fans of the book, it's the only way we'd ever get the entire story. But even then, people would complain that something didn't make it in.

But....

We didn't get that, we got a movie, so we need to judge it on its own merits. For me, the movie worked. It really nailed two things that it needed to for me - the friendships and Pennywise. Sure, I wish more of the book actually made it, and I didn't agree with a couple things the movie did - but I will say it worked for the film. It captured the heart of the book, and managed to do so with a limitation of two something hours.

As a long (long) time fan of the book, I could have (and still could) pick apart the movie for hours. But I chose to take what was made and find the things I really enjoyed. I don't expect that to change when I pick up the movie next week.

Boy do I know there are people that would find something to complain about. I too choose to just enjoy what we got. Could there have been things done better, sure, but someone will find some imperfection.