DT References in Books Published After the DT VII?

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taylor29

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So, you have one name in your user ID which contains six letters (1 + 6 = 7!) with two numbers in it (9 - 2 = 7!). So, what you're really saying is that you have a friend who's obsessed with the number 7? Uh huh, right.......=D
There's no coming back from that assessment. :) what if I told you said friend created this username a couple of years ago on another site and I kept it? If you don't buy that, you should know that "t" is the 7th last letter to the alphabet.
 

kingricefan

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#22
There's no coming back from that assessment. :) what if I told you said friend created this username a couple of years ago on another site and I kept it? If you don't buy that, you should know that "t" is the 7th last letter to the alphabet.
And if you take the 't' out of alphabet you end up with 7 letters........
 

taylor29

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#27
As I'm reading Dr. Sleep, I am convinced that DT references are apparent. The whole idea that names and people are recycled from one version of the world/time to another (Susan/Susana or Calla/Callohan) exist (Abra, Ahh Bra store, for example). In addition, red represents discontent and disorder (and firehot anger in Dan's case), which may in another world equal the Red King. References to True Knot in Salem's lot (I haven't gotten far enough to tell if the True Knot is some kind of vampire referenced in DT). I also see Dan and Abra's initial psychic connection as the forming of a ka-tet. Small references, mind you, but enough to keep me making connections.
 

Mr. Gray Robert

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#31
11/22/63 strongly references another classic... It!

I am not sure Dr. Sleep really had any direct DT connections. Other than room 217 from The Shining is mentioned.. and you know... 2 +17= 19. Dark Tower School of Higher Mathematics.
I've mentioned this in another post but I was wondering if 11/22/63 takes place on another level of the Tower. Richie and Bev say they believe "the guy in a clown suit" won't be coming back but in IT Bill starts forgetting on his bike ride home...thoughts?
 

Anthony C

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Having just finished "Ur" published in Bazaar of Bad Dreams, this is CLEARLY a Dark Tower novella. I posted a discussion over in this novella's discussion about questions I have on that story. In it, two Taheen are acting in an arguably lawful fashion and in some ways in service TO the Tower, despite their allegiance to the Crimson King, as evidenced by their red eye badges. GOOD story, and I loved the tie ins to tDT, but it left me wondering WHY the Taheen were acting the way they were.

Oh, for other books/stories that have tDT connections here's a pretty exhaustive list: Stephen King works related to The Dark Tower series - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

And here's another on the official website: The Dark Tower - Connections
 

champ1966

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I've mentioned this in another post but I was wondering if 11/22/63 takes place on another level of the Tower. Richie and Bev say they believe "the guy in a clown suit" won't be coming back but in IT Bill starts forgetting on his bike ride home...thoughts?
It and 11/22/63 are definitely not on our level of the tower
 
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Of course all of Stephen King's books are connected to the Dark Tower. What the Dark Tower IS is a metaphor for life, specifically the life of Stephen King. Just like life, the Tower and all the worlds sprang forth without explanation from the magic of the prim. Originally, the tower was supported by magic, but eventually as the magic faded, it was propped up by reason and science. In childhood, everything is magic and the world is full of wonder. As we grow this worldview is replaced by a reasoned replacement. Science and knowledge replaces faith and superstition. The beams are created. Roland clearly represents the stoic, persistence of faith in things working out as they should. The Crimson King clearly represents the mad, self-destructive side of King's personality. The breakers represent many things that are trying to bring the tower down; substance abuse, age, sickness, injury, etc.....There is no illusion in the story that the Tower is not teetering and eventually it will fall, as each of us must eventually come to the clearing at the end of the path. However, the journey of the Ka-Tet represents the quest to find God, to have answers, to achieve a degree of immortality. And by capturing the tale in the symbolic, intriguing, and exciting way that Stephen King has, he has preserved this view of the multiverse for his constant readers, thus achieving a sort of quasi immortality. Or maybe I'm wrong.....what do you think?
 

Dana Jean

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#38
Of course all of Stephen King's books are connected to the Dark Tower. What the Dark Tower IS is a metaphor for life, specifically the life of Stephen King. Just like life, the Tower and all the worlds sprang forth without explanation from the magic of the prim. Originally, the tower was supported by magic, but eventually as the magic faded, it was propped up by reason and science. In childhood, everything is magic and the world is full of wonder. As we grow this worldview is replaced by a reasoned replacement. Science and knowledge replaces faith and superstition. The beams are created. Roland clearly represents the stoic, persistence of faith in things working out as they should. The Crimson King clearly represents the mad, self-destructive side of King's personality. The breakers represent many things that are trying to bring the tower down; substance abuse, age, sickness, injury, etc.....There is no illusion in the story that the Tower is not teetering and eventually it will fall, as each of us must eventually come to the clearing at the end of the path. However, the journey of the Ka-Tet represents the quest to find God, to have answers, to achieve a degree of immortality. And by capturing the tale in the symbolic, intriguing, and exciting way that Stephen King has, he has preserved this view of the multiverse for his constant readers, thus achieving a sort of quasi immortality. Or maybe I'm wrong.....what do you think?
Welcome! That all sounds good to me.
 

GNTLGNT

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#39
Of course all of Stephen King's books are connected to the Dark Tower. What the Dark Tower IS is a metaphor for life, specifically the life of Stephen King. Just like life, the Tower and all the worlds sprang forth without explanation from the magic of the prim. Originally, the tower was supported by magic, but eventually as the magic faded, it was propped up by reason and science. In childhood, everything is magic and the world is full of wonder. As we grow this worldview is replaced by a reasoned replacement. Science and knowledge replaces faith and superstition. The beams are created. Roland clearly represents the stoic, persistence of faith in things working out as they should. The Crimson King clearly represents the mad, self-destructive side of King's personality. The breakers represent many things that are trying to bring the tower down; substance abuse, age, sickness, injury, etc.....There is no illusion in the story that the Tower is not teetering and eventually it will fall, as each of us must eventually come to the clearing at the end of the path. However, the journey of the Ka-Tet represents the quest to find God, to have answers, to achieve a degree of immortality. And by capturing the tale in the symbolic, intriguing, and exciting way that Stephen King has, he has preserved this view of the multiverse for his constant readers, thus achieving a sort of quasi immortality. Or maybe I'm wrong.....what do you think?
...quite well reasoned...and I say welcome!...
 
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