Flight MH370

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fljoe0

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I saw this online today. Veteran pilot's theory--worth considering, I think: Malaysia Plane Fire - Business Insider

That theory makes sense to me and a least sounds possible.

Everything about what happened looks deliberate except that there is no one taking credit for it or no terrorist act committed so I can believe this new theory.
 

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Why wouldn't a passenger have tried to make a call out? Would cell phones work? Do they still have those credit card phones on planes?
I've been thinking about that, and two things occurred to me: first, they might have been out of cell range if we're talking about the Indian Ocean. Second, perhaps no one (passengers) realized anything was wrong until the plane started to go down. I'm no pilot, so when I fly the plane could be going literally anywhere and I'd have no idea until landmarks came into view (or didn't, as the case might be) on descent. If the descent was fast...
 

skimom2

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That theory makes sense to me and a least sounds possible.

Everything about what happened looks deliberate except that there is no one taking credit for it or no terrorist act committed so I can believe this new theory.
Yep, it sounds plausible to a layman. Terrorism is still a possibility (as I said before, it might be part of a bigger plan that needs to come into its time), but who knows?
 

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Not sure what the coverage would be on the cell phones, but the plane apparently did turn and fly back over Malaysia before getting over water again so you would think that there would be some service. I'm wondering about those pay type phones, if they still have them and why one of the two hundred or so passengers didn't use it? You would also think that , if a fire, certainly that would be something the passengers and remaining crew would know about. Hard to hide smoke and the smell in an enclosed tube. Also, don't they still have those flight trackers (along with TV in the headrests) that the passengers can monkey around with during their flight? When I've flown, it's been some time granted, but they seemed to be pretty accurate.



I've been thinking about that, and two things occurred to me: first, they might have been out of cell range if we're talking about the Indian Ocean. Second, perhaps no one (passengers) realized anything was wrong until the plane started to go down. I'm no pilot, so when I fly the plane could be going literally anywhere and I'd have no idea until landmarks came into view (or didn't, as the case might be) on descent. If the descent was fast...
 
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skimom2

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Not sure what the coverage would be on the cell phones, but the plane apparently did turn and fly back over Malaysia before getting over water again so you would think that there would be some service. I'm wondering about those pay type phones, if they still have them and why one of the two hundred or so passengers didn't use it. You would also think that , if a fire, certainly that would be something the passengers and remaining crew would know about. Hard to hide smoke and the smell in an enclosed tube. Also, don't they still have those flight trackers (along with TV in the headrests) that the passengers can monkey around with during their flight. When I've flown, it's been some time granted, but they seemed to be pretty accurate.

All good questions. I don't fly often (in fact, it's been over a decade since I was last on plane), so I don't have enough personal experience to go on here.
 

Walter Oobleck

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The news mentioned a flight out of Angola, 2003, a Boeing 727...never found, just a single pilot within. And that flight in Alaska that disappeared without a trace, carrying the elected official. I remember something about the Alaska flight, but don't recall, at all, the Angola mystery. Nobody on the news, that I've heard, has suggested this was the rapture...I suppose they don't want to upset their viewers, what with winter and all.
 

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I've yet to hear them cover information related to a plane's transponder. I've already posted info related to my limited time as a radar operator...and one memory that comes back is that there is a 4-digit code that "identifies" that radar target you're trying to identify. I wonder how hard it is for a pilot, any pilot, to dial in, key in, punch in any 4-digit code that would identify a plane as...something other than what it is. I doubt this is all state-secrets...I think the hijack code is one set of 4-digit numbers...loss of communications another 4-digit number. Perhaps Flight 370 has always and forever used a singular 4-digit code and any air-traffic controller, for sure...and perhaps military radars...would be able to interrogate Flight 370's radar return and know that this is a Boeing 777. Since the news seems to be engaged in all manner of what-if scenarios, why hasn't one of them questioned how difficult it would be for a stolen plane to take to the sky, once again, loaded for bear...and to begin "squawking" a 4-digit code that would tell those looking at a screen that this is a "friendly" when in fact the plane is now on a mission? Maybe they covered it and I missed it? Maybe a plane's transponder code is set at the factory? How many combinations are there possible given 4-digits?
 

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From CNN:


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Two objects spotted by satellite in the southern Indian Ocean over the weekend may be debris from the missing Malaysia Airlines Flight 370, Australian authorities said Thursday.
The objects were picked up by commercial satellite on Sunday. A Royal Australian Air Force search plane dispatched to the remote spot was unable to find either object amid rain, clouds and limited visibility Thursday afternoon, the Australian Maritime Safety Authority said on Twitter. Other ships were on their way to the scene, officials said.

Authorities cautioned the objects could be something else -- shipping containers that fell off a vessel, for instance. But they said they represent the best lead so far in the search for the missing airliner, which vanished 13 days ago with 239 passengers and crew aboard on March 8 while en route from the Malaysian capital of Kuala Lumpur to Beijing.
 

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The news mentioned a flight out of Angola, 2003, a Boeing 727...never found, just a single pilot within. And that flight in Alaska that disappeared without a trace, carrying the elected official. I remember something about the Alaska flight, but don't recall, at all, the Angola mystery. Nobody on the news, that I've heard, has suggested this was the rapture...I suppose they don't want to upset their viewers, what with winter and all.
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