microchipped

[skimom2]

We were just talking about this today! My first reaction is "No way!" BUT. I use a debit card for almost everything, and that's as good as a microchip. Everywhere I go, pretty much everything I do, is already being monitored.

Depressing.

 

[Maddie]

We were just talking about this today! My first reaction is "No way!" BUT. I use a debit card for almost everything, and that's as good as a microchip. Everywhere I go, pretty much everything I do, is already being monitored.

Depressing.

I agree. Its like we are slowly already succumbing to more than we ever thought would happen from 10 years back when just the possibility of being tracked thru phones was being discussed and now cars tell us where we are and which way to go next, and its awesome.

I saw my tablet watching me recently, I posted this elsewhere but will add it here too that I was in bed doing some late night reading on a tablet, waiting for a news article to complete loading so I could scroll down to read it, it had already went to the page, waiting for the load to stop, and All of a Sudden there was a giant eye in real time on the screen and it was looking Right At Me, and I jumped and sat up, and it disappeared, back to the news article . It looked like this....

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As scary as that was, and is, Im still using the tablet. I read that refrigerators are interactively in the works maybe it will tell us when we're low on milk before we run out. The FBI just put out a new warning for parents last week about the dangers of all interactive toys and the potential they All have of being hacked into allowing strangers to talk to, and watch, our children. its here ...


Internet Crime Complaint Center (IC3) | Internet-Connected Toys Could Present Privacy and Contact Concerns for Children


Put tape over the cameras and whisper so it doesn't hear you, what more can you do ?


Oh, and Especially when you look like crap cause the next thing you know the hackers will be blackmailing all of us.

 

[Mr Nobody]

Not a chance. If it was that or be fired...well they can only do it once, and I'd probably stand a good chance of winning at any tribunal seeing as it'd amount to 'I was sacked for refusing a surgical procedure'. Doesn't matter how minor it might be, that's still what it is. And what happens if or when you change jobs anyway? Do they just get to transfer 'ownership'?
We're not drones. We might agree to work for a corporation (just as they agree to hire us), but that doesn't make us their property. Microchipping employees seems like a short hop away from that, even though the first step appears to be benign enough. They always do. Next thing would probably be the National Paranoia Agencies ("Working in our own self-interest and those of our corporate sponsors and owners! Erm...to Protect You! Or something...") insisting upon it for all citizens because "national security".
How about nah? Or, if it really has to happen, they stop pretending we're free in any meaningful sense of the word? (I mean, yeah, it's BS anyway - try telling them you're free and want no part of the System; see how far you get - but even so...)

As for skimom2's point re: debit and credit cards, yeah it's possible, but it's also possible to leave them at home/elsewhere. Ditto for phones, tablets, laptops, whatever. Not so easy if the damn thing's in your hand or arm.

Re: Maddie - yep, cover the camera and whisper. The day will probably soon come when that'll be enough to see a SWAT team hoof your door in and for you to be arrested on suspicion of being a terrorist (or just shot outright, right? Maybe even through your door).
"Why are you covering the camera? Why are you trying to hide what you're saying? Why would you do that, if you really are an honest, law-abiding citizen? No answer, huh? THREAT! TERRORIST! Off to the cells with you!"

And yeah. Echo and Echo Dot. Not on your nelly. If a govt went "We want you to have this thing in your home. All it does is listen to everything you say, record it and report back so we can...er...improve the algorithms, yeah. That's it. Oh, and you can order stuff, too", 99.9% of people would tell them to do one. Because it's a nice, cuddly corporation(!), with none of the checks and balances govt generally has and a space (online) where no Constitution really applies ("What? Us, an American company? Why, no. We're global...and our US offices don't handle this stuff. Still a US company? Well, prove it, because we have documentation that proves otherwise..."), people wet themselves and rush to get one.
They can poke 'online' fridges, too. I have eyes. I can see if I'm running out of stuff. I don't need a reminder sent to my phone or inbox, and it'll be a very cold day in Hell indeed before my fridge has access to my bank account so it can order sh!t for me! I mean, Christ, how lazy and passive do they want us/people want to become?

 

[mjs9153]

Another problem with the voluntary basis is the slippery slope.It is voluntary now of course,but as it becomes de rigeur,I can see it quietly becoming a condition of employment..and there is no compelling reason to not use cheap pass cards which you can attach to clothing.I hate to sound paranoid but the various ways corporations have of selling the individual employee or consumer today is downright scary.

 

[Dana Jean]

Absolutely not, I do think this is very creepy and a dangerous direction for humans.

BUT,

there is a very tiny part of me that thinks chipping alzheimer's patients, mentally handicapped and children under a certain age could be very beneficial for their own safety. Think how many missing kids wouldn't be missing if they had been chipped? Okay, I know they aren't pets, but, a way to track the most vulnerable I think would be a positive thing.

Of course, I'm seeing this as mankind would do the right thing and not abuse it. Naive.

 

[Dana Jean]

Read an article about your Roomba providing info about your home "as it cleans".

That damn Roomba! I knew it was looking at me funny the other day!

 

[Spideyman]

That damn Roomba! I knew it was looking at me funny the other day!

 

[Moderator]

Absolutely not, I do think this is very creepy and a dangerous direction for humans.

BUT,

there is a very tiny part of me that thinks chipping alzheimer's patients, mentally handicapped and children under a certain age could be very beneficial for their own safety. Think how many missing kids wouldn't be missing if they had been chipped? Okay, I know they aren't pets, but, a way to track the most vulnerable I think would be a positive thing.

Of course, I'm seeing this as mankind would do the right thing and not abuse it. Naive.

I've thought the same thing from a safety standpoint so count me as naive, too.

 

[Spideyman]

Absolutely not, I do think this is very creepy and a dangerous direction for humans.

BUT,

there is a very tiny part of me that thinks chipping alzheimer's patients, mentally handicapped and children under a certain age could be very beneficial for their own safety. Think how many missing kids wouldn't be missing if they had been chipped? Okay, I know they aren't pets, but, a way to track the most vulnerable I think would be a positive thing.

Of course, I'm seeing this as mankind would do the right thing and not abuse it. Naive.

Dana Jean are you aware that gps shoes and clothing are available for elderly with health/aging issues? True, the shoe or clothing could be taken off, whereas a chip would not.
Recently veterinary associations are recommending that smalls animals not be microchipped. Many are demonstrating rejection as well as cancerous growths. More studies are being conducted. There should be a safe way to track children and elderly.

 

[Dana Jean]

Dana Jean are you aware that gps shoes and clothing are available for elderly with health/aging issues? True, the shoe or clothing could be taken off, whereas a chip would not.
Recently veterinary associations are recommending that smalls animals not be microchipped. Many are demonstrating rejection as well as cancerous growths. More studies are being conducted. There should be a safe way to track children and elderly.

Interesting. I did not know any of that. I see the benefits of chips if they could be made safe. But in today's world, everything is potential cancer. Absolutely every dang thing is just cancer waiting to happen. I hate cancer. I wish they could just shut that parasite down before it even starts in anyone! Just nuke it where it isn't even a word in our vocabulary anymore.

 

[staropeace]

No way. We are lost enough of our privacy already. That is the one thing I hate about the computer age.

 

[kingricefan]

No effing way!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[ghost19]

That damn Roomba! I knew it was looking at me funny the other day!

...........

 

[GNTLGNT]

....hell, Google Earth can see me on my front porch!......chip away says I.....no fu*ks given....we are already so "spied upon", that if somebody wants to spy on me scratching myself-you go for it Big Brother!....

 

[GNTLGNT]

....I'll be happy to have some of these implanted....

 

[kingricefan]

....hell, Google Earth can see me on my front porch!......chip away says I.....no fu*ks given....we are already so "spied upon", that if somebody wants to spy on me scratching myself-you go for it Big Brother!....

Better be wearing some pants, bro.....

 

[GNTLGNT]

Better be wearing some pants, bro.....

....hell with that!...it's my porch....I ever tell ya about the night I went tromping out there in my Fruit of the Loom's, carrying a sawed off shotgun, cuz I thought some car cruising past repeatedly was looking for trouble?????....

 

[kingricefan]

....hell with that!...it's my porch....I ever tell ya about the night I went tromping out there in my Fruit of the Loom's, carrying a sawed off shotgun, cuz I thought some car cruising past repeatedly was looking for trouble?????....

I was driving the car, looking for you, dumb*ss! You got nice legs.....

 

[GNTLGNT]

I was driving the car, looking for you, dumb*ss! You got nice legs.....

 

[skimom2]

Absolutely not, I do think this is very creepy and a dangerous direction for humans.

BUT,

there is a very tiny part of me that thinks chipping alzheimer's patients, mentally handicapped and children under a certain age could be very beneficial for their own safety. Think how many missing kids wouldn't be missing if they had been chipped? Okay, I know they aren't pets, but, a way to track the most vulnerable I think would be a positive thing.

Of course, I'm seeing this as mankind would do the right thing and not abuse it. Naive.

That's EXACTLY how I think it will come to be sold (and I have no doubt that if this goes through with this company, it will eventually become the norm. I do NOT have any illusions abut companies or individuals, DJ--lol): "Think of the CHILDREN"-God help us.

Mr Nobody I actually agree with you. My point is that we've already given up so much personal anonymity, without blinking an eye.