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would you allow yourself to be microchipped for work

  • Yes

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • No

    Votes: 27 87.1%
  • Maybe

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Yes if I get free rabies shots and flea powder too

    Votes: 4 12.9%

  • Total voters
    31

skimom2

Just moseyin' through...
Oct 9, 2013
15,683
92,167
USA
I agree. Its like we are slowly already succumbing to more than we ever thought would happen from 10 years back when just the possibility of being tracked thru phones was being discussed and now cars tell us where we are and which way to go next, and its awesome.

I saw my tablet watching me recently, I posted this elsewhere but will add it here too that I was in bed doing some late night reading on a tablet, waiting for a news article to complete loading so I could scroll down to read it, it had already went to the page, waiting for the load to stop, and All of a Sudden there was a giant eye in real time on the screen and it was looking Right At Me, and I jumped and sat up, and it disappeared, back to the news article :icon_eek: . It looked like this....

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As scary as that was, and is, Im still using the tablet. I read that refrigerators are interactively in the works maybe it will tell us when we're low on milk before we run out. :Oo: The FBI just put out a new warning for parents last week about the dangers of all interactive toys and the potential they All have of being hacked into allowing strangers to talk to, and watch, our children. its here ...


Internet Crime Complaint Center (IC3) | Internet-Connected Toys Could Present Privacy and Contact Concerns for Children


Put tape over the cameras and whisper so it doesn't hear you, what more can you do ?


Oh, and Especially when you look like crap cause the next thing you know the hackers will be blackmailing all of us. :laugh:
I do have tape over my camera! And I know some sort of algorhythm thingy is listening: the other day, Mark and I were talking about coffee. No computers on, no windows open, no phones on. Conversation wrapped up, I open my email and there's a notice: Pinterest suggesting some new posts for me, all about coffee, "based on your interests". I have nothing about coffee on my Pinterest board.

Your eye thing freaks me out. That's a person watching you, not just a computer!
 

Ebdim9th

Dressing the Gothic interval in tritones
Jul 1, 2009
6,137
22,103
THIS ......
Not a chance. If it was that or be fired...well they can only do it once, and I'd probably stand a good chance of winning at any tribunal seeing as it'd amount to 'I was sacked for refusing a surgical procedure'. Doesn't matter how minor it might be, that's still what it is. And what happens if or when you change jobs anyway? Do they just get to transfer 'ownership'?
We're not drones. We might agree to work for a corporation (just as they agree to hire us), but that doesn't make us their property. Microchipping employees seems like a short hop away from that, even though the first step appears to be benign enough. They always do. Next thing would probably be the National Paranoia Agencies ("Working in our own self-interest and those of our corporate sponsors and owners! Erm...to Protect You! Or something...") insisting upon it for all citizens because "national security".
How about nah? Or, if it really has to happen, they stop pretending we're free in any meaningful sense of the word? (I mean, yeah, it's BS anyway - try telling them you're free and want no part of the System; see how far you get - but even so...)

As for skimom2's point re: debit and credit cards, yeah it's possible, but it's also possible to leave them at home/elsewhere. Ditto for phones, tablets, laptops, whatever. Not so easy if the damn thing's in your hand or arm.

Re: Maddie - yep, cover the camera and whisper. The day will probably soon come when that'll be enough to see a SWAT team hoof your door in and for you to be arrested on suspicion of being a terrorist (or just shot outright, right? Maybe even through your door).
"Why are you covering the camera? Why are you trying to hide what you're saying? Why would you do that, if you really are an honest, law-abiding citizen? No answer, huh? THREAT! TERRORIST! Off to the cells with you!"

And yeah. Echo and Echo Dot. Not on your nelly. If a govt went "We want you to have this thing in your home. All it does is listen to everything you say, record it and report back so we can...er...improve the algorithms, yeah. That's it. Oh, and you can order stuff, too", 99.9% of people would tell them to do one. Because it's a nice, cuddly corporation(!), with none of the checks and balances govt generally has and a space (online) where no Constitution really applies ("What? Us, an American company? Why, no. We're global...and our US offices don't handle this stuff. Still a US company? Well, prove it, because we have documentation that proves otherwise..."), people wet themselves and rush to get one.
They can poke 'online' fridges, too. I have eyes. I can see if I'm running out of stuff. I don't need a reminder sent to my phone or inbox, and it'll be a very cold day in Hell indeed before my fridge has access to my bank account so it can order sh!t for me! I mean, Christ, how lazy and passive do they want us/people want to become?
... needs to be posted as many places as possible....
 

mjs9153

Peripherally known member..
Nov 21, 2014
3,483
22,062
Dana Jean are you aware that gps shoes and clothing are available for elderly with health/aging issues? True, the shoe or clothing could be taken off, whereas a chip would not.
Recently veterinary associations are recommending that smalls animals not be microchipped. Many are demonstrating rejection as well as cancerous growths. More studies are being conducted. There should be a safe way to track children and elderly.
That is what I was wondering MaryAnn! How can they prevent rejection from the person being chipped,I recently had a splinter that broke off at the surface,it was a pain for about two weeks before my body eventually rejected it..so why should we allow these things to be implanted when there are other options..
 

mjs9153

Peripherally known member..
Nov 21, 2014
3,483
22,062
Interesting that I am the only one that answered yes,albeit with the good reasoning of free flea powder and rabies shots,to the idea..I really wonder if people would strongly disagree or refuse the implementation of this program if their workplace made it their policy..pretty sad what we have to do to make a buck nowadays..
 

Spideyman

Uber Member
Jul 10, 2006
46,025
192,668
75
Just north of Duma Key
That is what I was wondering MaryAnn! How can they prevent rejection from the person being chipped,I recently had a splinter that broke off at the surface,it was a pain for about two weeks before my body eventually rejected it..so why should we allow these things to be implanted when there are other options..
In this day and age of technology, one would think there would be ways to track without implants- physical harm.
As far as making it easier for workers so they no longer need to be concerned about passwords, key cards, etc...there are already ways in place. It isn't right for an individual to have to chose being earning a living and their health. Sometimes I feel like technology takes backward steps.
 

Steffen

Well-Known Member
Aug 9, 2015
2,228
12,762
Waaay too much potential for misuse there, I'm afraid. Everything that chip does can also be accomplished by wearing bio-metric devices like bracelets, rings, etc. that are REMOVABLE by the user at the end of the day.

Y'know, it's funny this whole thing about technology and how it is viewed and used in different parts of the world. I like to use robotics as an example. I often try to follow the development of robots because I think it's an exciting field with a great potential for the human race. In Japan (arguably the leader in this field), research is being done to develop lifelike robots (including skin and rudimentary AI) with a view to caring for elderly people, assisting medical personnel, and generally being companions in the home. In the West, robotics research in largely driven by the military for combat purposes.
 

mjs9153

Peripherally known member..
Nov 21, 2014
3,483
22,062
You know what would be cool though is if SK decided to microchip Miss Mod and the other moderators and there was an interactive map here so we could check out what they are up to at all times of the night and day.. now that would be peachy keen..
 

Maddie

Even a stopped clock is right twice a day.
Jul 10, 2006
4,945
9,345
that dollhouse at the end of the street
I do have tape over my camera! And I know some sort of algorhythm thingy is listening: the other day, Mark and I were talking about coffee. No computers on, no windows open, no phones on. Conversation wrapped up, I open my email and there's a notice: Pinterest suggesting some new posts for me, all about coffee, "based on your interests". I have nothing about coffee on my Pinterest board.

Your eye thing freaks me out. That's a person watching you, not just a computer!
That just freaks me out to read what you said about the eye, though I knew, or always thought there could be someone watching from the internet, never imagined an actual real person, I only hope it was a hacker passing through and saw they got the wrong 'house'. It was just like someone was peeking in! Whoever it was, they saw me see them. :icon_eek:

That is soooo creepy about the coffee!!!! Its proof someone or something is listening to 'what you say in your own house!' and without having direct internet contact. It happened to me recently at
facebitch
thru a conversation that was supposedly 'private', about what an antidepressant medication was for and a variety of pages magically appeared in my Timeline for me to 'Like' and outreach with a variety of different mental disorders! I can assure you I don't have any but someone out there must think I do now!

I think youre right about how the microchipping will eventually come to be served and well received in time.:O_O:
 

Maddie

Even a stopped clock is right twice a day.
Jul 10, 2006
4,945
9,345
that dollhouse at the end of the street
Not a chance. If it was that or be fired...well they can only do it once, and I'd probably stand a good chance of winning at any tribunal seeing as it'd amount to 'I was sacked for refusing a surgical procedure'. Doesn't matter how minor it might be, that's still what it is. And what happens if or when you change jobs anyway? Do they just get to transfer 'ownership'?
We're not drones. We might agree to work for a corporation (just as they agree to hire us), but that doesn't make us their property. Microchipping employees seems like a short hop away from that, even though the first step appears to be benign enough. They always do. Next thing would probably be the National Paranoia Agencies ("Working in our own self-interest and those of our corporate sponsors and owners! Erm...to Protect You! Or something...") insisting upon it for all citizens because "national security".
How about nah? Or, if it really has to happen, they stop pretending we're free in any meaningful sense of the word? (I mean, yeah, it's BS anyway - try telling them you're free and want no part of the System; see how far you get - but even so...)

As for skimom2's point re: debit and credit cards, yeah it's possible, but it's also possible to leave them at home/elsewhere. Ditto for phones, tablets, laptops, whatever. Not so easy if the damn thing's in your hand or arm.

Re: Maddie - yep, cover the camera and whisper. The day will probably soon come when that'll be enough to see a SWAT team hoof your door in and for you to be arrested on suspicion of being a terrorist (or just shot outright, right? Maybe even through your door).
"Why are you covering the camera? Why are you trying to hide what you're saying? Why would you do that, if you really are an honest, law-abiding citizen? No answer, huh? THREAT! TERRORIST! Off to the cells with you!"

And yeah. Echo and Echo Dot. Not on your nelly. If a govt went "We want you to have this thing in your home. All it does is listen to everything you say, record it and report back so we can...er...improve the algorithms, yeah. That's it. Oh, and you can order stuff, too", 99.9% of people would tell them to do one. Because it's a nice, cuddly corporation(!), with none of the checks and balances govt generally has and a space (online) where no Constitution really applies ("What? Us, an American company? Why, no. We're global...and our US offices don't handle this stuff. Still a US company? Well, prove it, because we have documentation that proves otherwise..."), people wet themselves and rush to get one.
They can poke 'online' fridges, too. I have eyes. I can see if I'm running out of stuff. I don't need a reminder sent to my phone or inbox, and it'll be a very cold day in Hell indeed before my fridge has access to my bank account so it can order sh!t for me! I mean, Christ, how lazy and passive do they want us/people want to become?

:laugh: Mr Nobody Your expression on this whole mess is Hilariousss and Brilliant! I was lmao about the SWAT team showing up at my door asking those questions and could clearly imagine it! The part about the refrigerator was hysterical! If you have a blog, I can imagine how delightfully funny it must be amidst the genius thoughts its wrapped up in! Excellent and brilliant post. :smile:
 

Sundrop

Sunny the Great & Wonderful
Jun 12, 2008
28,330
154,930
Interesting that I am the only one that answered yes,albeit with the good reasoning of free flea powder and rabies shots,to the idea..I really wonder if people would strongly disagree or refuse the implementation of this program if their workplace made it their policy..pretty sad what we have to do to make a buck nowadays..
One of the reasons I prefer to remain self employed.
Heck, I won't even get the flu shot because I'm afraid that they'll add a microchip to it.....
 

Sundrop

Sunny the Great & Wonderful
Jun 12, 2008
28,330
154,930
In this day and age of technology, one would think there would be ways to track without implants- physical harm.
As far as making it easier for workers so they no longer need to be concerned about passwords, key cards, etc...there are already ways in place. It isn't right for an individual to have to chose being earning a living and their health. Sometimes I feel like technology takes backward steps.
When I worked at Belk, we signed in with our fingerprint every day. It's unique to each employee, and it can't be forgotten at home.
 
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