microchipped

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would you allow yourself to be microchipped for work

  • Yes

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • No

    Votes: 27 90.0%
  • Maybe

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Yes if I get free rabies shots and flea powder too

    Votes: 3 10.0%

  • Total voters
    30

Mr Nobody

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One other thing: the analog version of this has already happened. Some of the survivors are still around, and have the tattoos on their arms to prove it.

I get the arguments that it could, in some few cases, be a 'good thing', and of course the technology is neither inherently good or bad. But if history shows us anything it's that these sorts of ideas, and the technologies they spawn or that are employed to make the idea manifest, are never altruistic and/or used in a benevolent way. So as with a lot (hell, most) things, the problem lies in human nature and the desire in some to control, and if possible subjugate or 'pacify', all (or at least the majority of) others.

As I've said before, I suffer from periodic bouts of depression. No doubt some clever type will come up with a small chip that could be stuck in my head via a harmless-enough procedure that would allow endorphin levels to be artificially boosted during my 'low' times. But here's the thing: I'd still reject it, because as bad as being depressed can be, I am still myself. Having some gizmo in my bonce decide that my brain chemistry needed a boost diminishes me; I would NOT truly be myself. And to me, at least, it seems like a pretty small step from mood moderation to outright mind control.
People need to remember that sci-fi is often (and the best sci-fi is always) more than mere entertainment. The Borg and Cybermen are warnings, not simple 'bad guys' for a show's heroes to defeat (though they also serve that function) or something to aspire to becoming.
 

Dana Jean

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Another moment of a dementia patient that could have been saved from microchipping.

He pushed an elevator’s alarm button but no one came, officials say. Weeks later, his body was found.

mjs9153 -- I don't post these to be obnoxious, I hope you know that. And there are hundreds of these situations that could be posted from across the world.

These stories are so tragic, I just want to see a positive spin on the chips. So, I put my rose colored glasses on and wish that there could be a good use for this technology and not throw the baby out with the bathwater.
 
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Neesy

#1 fan (Annie Wilkes cousin) 1st cousin Mom's side
May 24, 2012
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Is it true, that the US Industry uses Wrappings with RFID Chips ?
I'm not sure I know what this is, Osnafrank. Maybe someone else can say?
I think it is those silver things that they put on the more expensive items - I saw one on my Estroven package last night that I bought at Shopper's Drug Mart.

It looks sort of like a maze



Dang stuff is awfully expensive - maybe it prevents people from stealing things, as it probably beeps when you go through the scanner at the exit (??)
 

doowopgirl

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Aug 7, 2009
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Another moment of a dementia patient that could have been saved from microchipping.

He pushed an elevator’s alarm button but no one came, officials say. Weeks later, his body was found.

mjs9153 -- I don't post these to be obnoxious, I hope you know that. And there are hundreds of these situations that could be posted from across the world.

These stories are so tragic, I just want to see a positive spin on the chips. So, I put my rose colored glasses on and wish that there could be a good use for this technology and not throw the baby out with the bathwater.
There is a positive use for chipping people. Unfortunately there is also too much room for abuse.
 

Dana Jean

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Apr 11, 2006
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I think it is those silver things that they put on the more expensive items - I saw one on my Estroven package last night that I bought at Shopper's Drug Mart.

It looks sort of like a maze



Dang stuff is awfully expensive - maybe it prevents people from stealing things, as it probably beeps when you go through the scanner at the exit (??)
Oh okay. I've seen those just didn't know what they were called.
 

mjs9153

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Nov 21, 2014
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Another moment of a dementia patient that could have been saved from microchipping.

He pushed an elevator’s alarm button but no one came, officials say. Weeks later, his body was found.

mjs9153 -- I don't post these to be obnoxious, I hope you know that. And there are hundreds of these situations that could be posted from across the world.

These stories are so tragic, I just want to see a positive spin on the chips. So, I put my rose colored glasses on and wish that there could be a good use for this technology and not throw the baby out with the bathwater.
Don't you worry a bit,DJ,my sweet lil' Pirate hooker,how cool is your nickname..as an aside,you would love a ten day fest they have in my area,resort town on the water,that is dedicated to a famous pirate that was in the area way back when,people dress up in pirate clothes and they have historical recreations and just generally get juiced and enjoy the thing..as far as taking it personally,no don't worry I was just wondering,I like to post these kind of questions,get people talking,different ideas..and no nastiness in this thread at all!I do agree with my buddy Doowopgirl who seems to think a lot like I do on stuff,I think there is just too much room for abuse.But no matter what,it will probably happen anyway..on that note,here is some doowop,to soothe the Friday evening..
 

Maddie

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Jul 10, 2006
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that dollhouse at the end of the street
radio-frequency identification

It is a non-contact Data Transfer.
Metro in Germany and Walmart in the Us use this.
It`s alittle bit hard to explain and Comprehensive

I`ll try to get an Englisch Review
They are everywhere in the US. Besides cars, internet devices, credit cards, merchandise and foods, some electronics packaging you cant even cut through for weird gadgets without cutting yourself . I read that once all the credit cards have rfid chips, and some do already, there will no longer even be a need for checkouts in the supermarket and customers will have convenience to shop and push their carts right out of the store. :Oo: At least for now, its voluntary in the body. Its cringe worthy, to imagine a portrait from atop the sky mass societies of people we are becoming staring so deeply into objects. :O_O: but we cant resist.
 
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recitador

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I know you do..it is just scary how things are becoming common practice.A few weeks ago,I went to buy a few beers,and the clerk was insistent on seeing my ID.Usually I just say OK,here you go,but had just brought cash in the store,and telling her I was fifty three years old wasn't helping that much.Think about that,almost three times the legal age and was getting grief.She finally relented,but it was uncomfortable.I hate when they scan your license for alcohol purchases,why is that necessary?Where does that information go?When will scanning your license for EVERY purchase you make become de facto?
this has been forced by clerks and servers etc not following instructions or the law and carding appropriately. the last thing a business wants is to get a sting and get screwed over by a stupid employee. at the restaurant i used to work at, they told us flat out, even if it's your grandpa, card them (to emphasize the seriousness of it) . . . there's too many people who lack discretion to leave things like that open to chance. which isn't to say that there still weren't restaurants to get busted by lax employees. the liquor store near me has to enter a birthdate for the sale to go through as a precaution, and even then they don't card me every time. the places where they've taken to scanning your license are probably to force enter a correct birthdate and take it entirely out of employees hands because they've just been burned too many times by crappy employees.

for older folks, i think they should give them something to wear like a bracelet they can't remove easily so they can be tracked, in the cases where they're developing dementia.
 

Neesy

#1 fan (Annie Wilkes cousin) 1st cousin Mom's side
May 24, 2012
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Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada
this has been forced by clerks and servers etc not following instructions or the law and carding appropriately. the last thing a business wants is to get a sting and get screwed over by a stupid employee. at the restaurant i used to work at, they told us flat out, even if it's your grandpa, card them (to emphasize the seriousness of it) . . . there's too many people who lack discretion to leave things like that open to chance. which isn't to say that there still weren't restaurants to get busted by lax employees. the liquor store near me has to enter a birthdate for the sale to go through as a precaution, and even then they don't card me every time. the places where they've taken to scanning your license are probably to force enter a correct birthdate and take it entirely out of employees hands because they've just been burned too many times by crappy employees.

for older folks, i think they should give them something to wear like a bracelet they can't remove easily so they can be tracked, in the cases where they're developing dementia.
That last paragraph :icon_eek:
- dementia?

How did this come up? I thought he was talking about being carded for liquor purchases

Actually there are bracelets out now for those with Alzheimer's

God - I hope eventually a vaccine or something is invented to eradicate this horrible disease :dejection:
 

mal

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I answered no. I have tape over my laptop cam and microphone holes. I wear tinfoil inside my toque so no one notices. I'll often buy ketchup that I don't like just to skew their info gathering. Everyone join me in buying products you don't like or will never use! We'll throw their marketing way off! :0: On a more serious note, this would be easy to refuse based on religious grounds. I may be getting this all screwed up but in the Jewish religion I don't think you can even have a tattoo if you want to be buried in a traditional way.
 

mjs9153

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Nov 21, 2014
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I answered no. I have tape over my laptop cam and microphone holes. I wear tinfoil inside my toque so no one notices. I'll often buy ketchup that I don't like just to skew their info gathering. Everyone join me in buying products you don't like or will never use! We'll throw their marketing way off! :0: On a more serious note, this would be easy to refuse based on religious grounds. I may be getting this all screwed up but in the Jewish religion I don't think you can even have a tattoo if you want to be buried in a traditional way.
The cool thing is,even though most insist no,they would not chipped,is two other people besides me think that free rabies shots and flea powder is worth the price of admission.. :grinning:
 
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