ghost19: Speaking for myself, I am most definitely not offended by that! You worded it beautifully, and it reflects exactly how I feel about this subject. I'm probably old-fashioned too, but this is honestly how I believe it should be. 
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((ghostie)) You are a good man and a good dad to your sons!
I'm on the same side as Ms. Mod, ie: I will open a door for you if I get there first, and I appreciate if you do the same. If you are a gentleman, who rushes to get the door first, I appreciate the effort. And I will just go on the record now, saying that it majorly ticks me off to see a women get offended when this happens to her! The gentleman is not implying that you are weak and can't open the freakin' door, he is being nice! Accept it graciously and move on! Otherwise, you are taking a nice deed and turning it into an unpleasant moment for all involved and in ear shot. Thank you! ~~~ steps down of soap box and drops the mic~~~
Thank you ma'am.ghost19: Speaking for myself, I am most definitely not offended by that! You worded it beautifully, and it reflects exactly how I feel about this subject. I'm probably old-fashioned too, but this is honestly how I believe it should be.
I also hold the door for her dad on the rare occasions he goes out to dinner with us, but it's more because he's like 6'6 and looks like a grizzled viking Earl and I'd just as soon stay on his good side
Even worse, for sure! That's just plain ignorant.
((ghostie)) You are a good man and a good dad to your sons!
I'm on the same side as Ms. Mod, ie: I will open a door for you if I get there first, and I appreciate if you do the same. If you are a gentleman, who rushes to get the door first, I appreciate the effort. And I will just go on the record now, saying that it majorly ticks me off to see a women get offended when this happens to her! The gentleman is not implying that you are weak and can't open the freakin' door, he is being nice! Accept it graciously and move on! Otherwise, you are taking a nice deed and turning it into an unpleasant moment for all involved and in ear shot. Thank you! ~~~ steps down of soap box and drops the mic~~~
I have gotten that reaction a few times over the years, it kind of makes it awkward. Do you just release the door as they walk in and they walk into it or hold your ground and take the sneers and the snarky comment of "I CAN OPEN A DOOR BY MYSELF!"????
Also, I do notice my 14 year old son will sometimes beat me to the door and open it for Tamara and Aidan. I like to see that. I usually retaliate by grabbing him and playfully shove him thru the door before I go in. He usually cracks up pretty good because he's not expecting it.
Doc, that is absolutely perfect sir. ROTFLMAO.....
It's not old fashion to open a door. It is a sign of respect, courtesy, good manners. So much of etiquette has been lost to this generation. Thank you for being the person you are ghost19 . Thank you for teaching the observing eye of you sons.
absolutely not offended. I feel bad for guys. Damned if they do, damned if they don't.
I love to be treated like a lady, and I also like be treated as an equal intellectually. It feels great and does feel like a partnership when someone loves and respects you that way. And that goes BOTH WAYS.
You are a real man.
Yes. Common courtesy to say thank you!
THey are terrible! Nobody is teaching their kids manners!
One of my biggest pet peeves of all time in the manners department -- in the grocery store, if I am intently looking at the shelves for something and you walk between me and that view -- say friggin' excuse me. Just say it. You are acknowledging that person, otherwise, it comes off as dismissive.
Exactly. Well said.((ghostie)) You are a good man and a good dad to your sons!
I'm on the same side as Ms. Mod, ie: I will open a door for you if I get there first, and I appreciate if you do the same. If you are a gentleman, who rushes to get the door first, I appreciate the effort. And I will just go on the record now, saying that it majorly ticks me off to see a women get offended when this happens to her! The gentleman is not implying that you are weak and can't open the freakin' door, he is being nice! Accept it graciously and move on! Otherwise, you are taking a nice deed and turning it into an unpleasant moment for all involved and in ear shot. Thank you! ~~~ steps down of soap box and drops the mic~~~
I'm sure I told this story before. It is so awkward. And to be honest, I was hurt. I was just trying to be nice. As I would do for anyone, like Marsha mentioned, when I got to the door first.
Back in the day when there weren't many of these automatic doors, I was in college and a man in a wheelchair was approaching a bank of these doors that had no automatic opener. He was coming for my door, close to me. I opened it, stepped back to allow him to go through first, and he growled at me, "I can do it myself!"
Now, if some handicapped person said that to me today, I would say, "I know you can, I was just being courteous to a fellow human, muthaf'er."
Okay, I wouldn't say that last bit.
It's hard sometimes. When my elderly (ex) neighbour dropped something when I was talking to her, I picked it up for her. Common courtesy, I thought. But then she went all "I'm not that old, I can pick things up myself", so to be honest I'm really not sure what to do anymore. Do I stand up when an elderly person enters the bus, or will I get a sh*tstorm for it? I don't know anymore.
Haha nice! And sadly very accurate... Sometimes I'm really not sure if I should hold the door or not. Especially with my neighbours. If I'm leaving the building and I see a familiar car coming this way (there are only six appartments in our building, so I know exactly which car belongs to which neighbour), it's difficult. I mean, you don't just close the door when you clearly saw that they are coming home, but it does take them quite a while to get out of the car and come to the door... Usually in this situation I end up putting the door on the hook so it stays open for them. Ah, middle ground.
Haha nice! And sadly very accurate... Sometimes I'm really not sure if I should hold the door or not. Especially with my neighbours. If I'm leaving the building and I see a familiar car coming this way (there are only six appartments in our building, so I know exactly which car belongs to which neighbour), it's difficult. I mean, you don't just close the door when you clearly saw that they are coming home, but it does take them quite a while to get out of the car and come to the door... Usually in this situation I end up putting the door on the hook so it stays open for them. Ah, middle ground.
I must be really, really, REALLY old fashioned. Back in my day all you needed were the three C’s. A club, a cave, and some chow.
In reality, cavewomen were stronger individuals than were cavemen when it came to the most important things, and actually valued higher in society.
In reality, cavewomen were stronger individuals than were cavemen when it came to the most important things, and actually valued higher in society.
[QUOTE="Klerekast, post: 892573, member: 50599"]It's hard sometimes. When my elderly (ex) neighbour dropped something when I was talking to her, I picked it up for her. Common courtesy, I thought. But then she went all "I'm not that old, I can pick things up myself", so to be honest I'm really not sure what to do anymore. Do I stand up when an elderly person enters the bus, or will I get a sh*tstorm for it? I don't know anymore.
Haha nice! And sadly very accurate... Sometimes I'm really not sure if I should hold the door or not. Especially with my neighbours. If I'm leaving the building and I see a familiar car coming this way (there are only six appartments in our building, so I know exactly which car belongs to which neighbour), it's difficult. I mean, you don't just close the door when you clearly saw that they are coming home, but it does take them quite a while to get out of the car and come to the door... Usually in this situation I end up putting the door on the hook so it stays open for them. Ah, middle ground.[/QUOTE]
You do the proper thing-- you pick up what the elderly lady dropped, and if she says thank you- you reply you are welcome. If , instead, she makes and unkind remark, you smile and simply say-- I needed the exercise and smile again.
If you are seated on a bus, once again- offer the seat. Elderly people often feel they are losing "control" of their lives as they are unable to do as much as they would like. You can again simply say, I would feel it safer for you to sit than stand on a moving bus. Always smile. Always show respect.
Haha nice! And sadly very accurate... Sometimes I'm really not sure if I should hold the door or not. Especially with my neighbours. If I'm leaving the building and I see a familiar car coming this way (there are only six appartments in our building, so I know exactly which car belongs to which neighbour), it's difficult. I mean, you don't just close the door when you clearly saw that they are coming home, but it does take them quite a while to get out of the car and come to the door... Usually in this situation I end up putting the door on the hook so it stays open for them. Ah, middle ground.
[/QUOTE]You do the proper thing-- you pick up what the elderly lady dropped, and if she says thank you- you reply you are welcome. If , instead, she makes and unkind remark, you smile and simply say-- I needed the exercise and smile again.
If you are seated on a bus, once again- offer the seat. Elderly people often feel they are losing "control" of their lives as they are unable to do as much as they would like. You can again simply say, I would feel it safer for you to sit than stand on a moving bus. Always smile. Always show respect.
do you have a link to this picture. I whould like to see. google had nothing but pics of hotdogs.
It may be the picture that's in Post #5,072 (you might have to go back a page).
These are very useful tips, thanks!
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