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GNTLGNT

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So, I have just seen the movie.....

I have to say, that having been a lifelong fan of Stephen King in general, and more specifically the Dark Tower series, I am genuinely and thoroughly disappointed. Well, more than disappointed actually.

I managed to sit through the movie without muttering too much, enjoying the various Easter eggs, I let out a clearly audible groan at the final exchange between Jake and Roland.

I brought my wife along in the hopes of sparking her interest in the series, and was anticipating the reaction at "Go then, there are other world's than these". Unfortunately, this adaptation seems to be less focused on the unrelenting quest of Roland and more on the happy-go-lucky feeling that the good guys always win!

Casting of Idris Elba was surprisingly inspired, and Jake did fairly well. Walter O'Dim was unsurprisingly disappointing, though his magic use (pre-boss fight) was well done. He was always more of a wormtongue over Voldemort sorcerer.

I would like to say that I would not go to see a sequel (if there is one - doubtful) but I have to be honest and say that I really want to meet Eddie and Susannah. Though I have a feeling there will be no lobstrosities or missing fingers...
...Hiya!.....
 

recitador

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No - I had to look up NCG - we don't seem to have any of these in Canada

Just regular big screen theatre - still, better than watching at home!

ah, i didn't remember you were canadian lol. NCG is the best. cheap matinees, cheap tuesdays, free refills on everything, all around nice theaters. 8 bucks for their seating in the fancy "xtreme atmos" theater for a matinee when i'd be lucky to get that for a regular ticket somewhere else. 6 for regular/tuesdays. i wish amc and regal would take notes.
 

Lucretius

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I have been a "constant reader" since I was a 20 year-old meth addict. I am ADHD naturally, and I always drifted away with what you wrote. You are even one of my influences that helped shape my writing style in my stories. You, Lovecraft and Poe.

Why do you keep letting them ruin the implementation of your imagination? They dummify it; they consolidate it, they ruin it...and in the process they make you look cheap. Can you honestly imagine Lovecraft or Poe doing that? I thought it was about the love of writing? Your art.

The Gunslinger movie was more their vision than yours. They condensed and ruined everything. Why do you keep allowing them to do this, Stephen? I don't sincerely understand. You aren't having money problems that I am aware of, so why sacrifice everything you've done--your legacy--only to tarnish your real deeds and abilities? I appreciate more the older cheaper movies that concentrated on plot...such as The Stand, It, The Langoliers, Stand by Me, Shawshank Redemption, and so forth. At least they were good...not some rich, stupid Hollywood's "vision" of how to turn your complex ideas into an hour and a half blockbuster. The only people that will enjoy this movie--if any!--will be the ignorant populace, not the true lovers of art. Don't you remember what you felt of Kubrick's version of The Stand...how much you didn't like it. That was HIS vision of your vision.

I hope you reconsider selling out to Hollywood in the future, because I seriously doubt you need to. You need to reconsider the legacy you leave behind, please. Please. I have great respect for your imagination and writing ability, but very little in your business savvy.

I think your great, I just wanted to express my opinion because I am infuriated right now that you gave up such great rights of oversight, and did not please the "constant reader" but instead the less intelligent, non-loyal visual-entitlement whores. You know, the kind that love Driving Miss Daisy or the action-packed The Matrix. I mean, seriously, Stephen, you can't be that old yet. You must understand my concern for your legacy. Because I do love your influence, and I do fear what you might inadvertently do to it.

Good luck, friend. Don't sacrifice integrity and creativity for an easy paycheck. Please don't do this again. I understand it isn't easy, but I have faith in you. Don't cater to those that don't even read--a vast majority. You don't need to. Cater to those that put you where you are, and appreciated what you do.

Looking forward to more great books! Keep up the good work in that department and thank you!
 
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FlakeNoir

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I have been a "constant reader" since I was a 20 year-old meth addict. I am ADHD naturally, and I always drifted away with what you wrote. You are even one of my influences that helped shape my writing style in my stories. You, Lovecraft and Poe.

Why do you keep letting them ruin the implementation of your imagination? They dummify it; they consolidate it, they ruin it...and in the process they make you look cheap. Can you honestly imagine Lovecraft or Poe doing that? I thought it was about the love of writing? Your art.

The Gunslinger movie was more their vision than yours. They condensed and ruined everything. Why do you keep allowing them to do this, Stephen? I don't sincerely understand. You aren't having money problems that I am aware of, so why sacrifice everything you've done--your legacy--only to tarnish your real deeds and abilities? I appreciate more the older cheaper movies that concentrated on plot...such as The Stand, It, The Langoliers, Stand by Me, Shawshank Redemption, and so forth. At least they were good...not some rich, stupid Hollywood's "vision" of how to turn your complex ideas into an hour and a half blockbuster. The only people that will enjoy this movie--if any!--will be the ignorant populace, not the true lovers of art. Don't you remember what you felt of Kubrick's version of The Stand...how much you didn't like it. That was HIS vision of your vision.

I hope you reconsider selling out to Hollywood in the future, because I seriously doubt you need to. You need to reconsider the legacy you leave behind, please. Please. I have great respect for your imagination and writing ability, but very little in your business savvy.

I think your great, I just wanted to express my opinion because I am infuriated right now that you gave up such great rights of oversight, and did not please the "constant reader" but instead the less intelligent, non-loyal visual-entitlement whores. You know, the kind that love Driving Miss Daisy or the action-packed The Matrix. I mean, seriously, Stephen, you can't be that old yet. You must understand my concern for your legacy. Because I do love your influence, and I do fear what you might inadvertently do to it.

Good luck, friend. Don't sacrifice integrity and creativity for an easy paycheck. Please don't do this again. I understand it isn't easy, but I have faith in you. Don't cater to those that don't even read--a vast majority. You don't need to. Cater to those that put you where you are, and appreciated what you do.

Looking forward to more great books! Keep up the good work in that department and thank you!
Welcome to the site Lucretius, I've just moved your post into an existing discussion of the DT movie.
 

kohalakirk

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Skipped out of work yesterday to catch it in the theaters while it lasts and loved every minute of it! I knew the reviews were negative but didn't read any of them. I read all the books as they were released and then binge read/listened to them again when I learned this was really finally coming to the big screen. I wasn't expecting a literal translation in a 95 minute movie, just bought the ticket and stepped through the door. Thanks to all who worked so hard and so long to open this one!
 

GeorgiesArm

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Jun 12, 2008
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I would like to say that I would not go to see a sequel (if there is one - doubtful) but I have to be honest and say that I really want to meet Eddie and Susannah. Though I have a feeling there will be no lobstrosities or missing fingers...

Lobstrosities we originally going to be in this one, the reason why Roland needed to go to the hospital. They cut them to simplify the world/go for the PG-13 rating
 

recitador

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I have been a "constant reader" since I was a 20 year-old meth addict. I am ADHD naturally, and I always drifted away with what you wrote. You are even one of my influences that helped shape my writing style in my stories. You, Lovecraft and Poe.

Why do you keep letting them ruin the implementation of your imagination? They dummify it; they consolidate it, they ruin it...and in the process they make you look cheap. Can you honestly imagine Lovecraft or Poe doing that? I thought it was about the love of writing? Your art.

The Gunslinger movie was more their vision than yours. They condensed and ruined everything. Why do you keep allowing them to do this, Stephen? I don't sincerely understand. You aren't having money problems that I am aware of, so why sacrifice everything you've done--your legacy--only to tarnish your real deeds and abilities? I appreciate more the older cheaper movies that concentrated on plot...such as The Stand, It, The Langoliers, Stand by Me, Shawshank Redemption, and so forth. At least they were good...not some rich, stupid Hollywood's "vision" of how to turn your complex ideas into an hour and a half blockbuster. The only people that will enjoy this movie--if any!--will be the ignorant populace, not the true lovers of art. Don't you remember what you felt of Kubrick's version of The Stand...how much you didn't like it. That was HIS vision of your vision.

I hope you reconsider selling out to Hollywood in the future, because I seriously doubt you need to. You need to reconsider the legacy you leave behind, please. Please. I have great respect for your imagination and writing ability, but very little in your business savvy.

I think your great, I just wanted to express my opinion because I am infuriated right now that you gave up such great rights of oversight, and did not please the "constant reader" but instead the less intelligent, non-loyal visual-entitlement whores. You know, the kind that love Driving Miss Daisy or the action-packed The Matrix. I mean, seriously, Stephen, you can't be that old yet. You must understand my concern for your legacy. Because I do love your influence, and I do fear what you might inadvertently do to it.

Good luck, friend. Don't sacrifice integrity and creativity for an easy paycheck. Please don't do this again. I understand it isn't easy, but I have faith in you. Don't cater to those that don't even read--a vast majority. You don't need to. Cater to those that put you where you are, and appreciated what you do.

Looking forward to more great books! Keep up the good work in that department and thank you!

i'm not knocking you for not liking it, but his legacy is, and always be his books. not the movies that come from them, and his legacy can't be ruined by hollywood, because the books will still exist.
 

jt0565

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Mr. King's legacy is in no danger and I sincerely doubt this had anything to do with money. Take solace in the fact that it was not an adaptation. It is entirely possible that someone with vision and fortitude will try to bring the journey to the big screen in the future. Frank Darabond for example.
 

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I have been a "constant reader" since I was a 20 year-old meth addict. I am ADHD naturally, and I always drifted away with what you wrote. You are even one of my influences that helped shape my writing style in my stories. You, Lovecraft and Poe.

Why do you keep letting them ruin the implementation of your imagination? They dummify it; they consolidate it, they ruin it...and in the process they make you look cheap. Can you honestly imagine Lovecraft or Poe doing that? I thought it was about the love of writing? Your art.

The Gunslinger movie was more their vision than yours. They condensed and ruined everything. Why do you keep allowing them to do this, Stephen? I don't sincerely understand. You aren't having money problems that I am aware of, so why sacrifice everything you've done--your legacy--only to tarnish your real deeds and abilities? I appreciate more the older cheaper movies that concentrated on plot...such as The Stand, It, The Langoliers, Stand by Me, Shawshank Redemption, and so forth. At least they were good...not some rich, stupid Hollywood's "vision" of how to turn your complex ideas into an hour and a half blockbuster. The only people that will enjoy this movie--if any!--will be the ignorant populace, not the true lovers of art. Don't you remember what you felt of Kubrick's version of The Stand...how much you didn't like it. That was HIS vision of your vision.

I hope you reconsider selling out to Hollywood in the future, because I seriously doubt you need to. You need to reconsider the legacy you leave behind, please. Please. I have great respect for your imagination and writing ability, but very little in your business savvy.

I think your great, I just wanted to express my opinion because I am infuriated right now that you gave up such great rights of oversight, and did not please the "constant reader" but instead the less intelligent, non-loyal visual-entitlement whores. You know, the kind that love Driving Miss Daisy or the action-packed The Matrix. I mean, seriously, Stephen, you can't be that old yet. You must understand my concern for your legacy. Because I do love your influence, and I do fear what you might inadvertently do to it.

Good luck, friend. Don't sacrifice integrity and creativity for an easy paycheck. Please don't do this again. I understand it isn't easy, but I have faith in you. Don't cater to those that don't even read--a vast majority. You don't need to. Cater to those that put you where you are, and appreciated what you do.

Looking forward to more great books! Keep up the good work in that department and thank you!

Stephen is a creative person and has always been one to look for different ways to try things. What you see as selling out, he sees as another way to tell a story. One comment that he made in an early interview about this adaptation was that he already knows how the story turns out in his books. It was exciting to him to see what others could do to expand on his original story. There were many times along the way that he would nix an idea or ask for edits in the many scripts when he thought they were going too far off field. As long as they captured what he, as the creator of the work, felt was the essence of the story he was okay with what they did. And, as he and others have said, no adaptation can ruin his books. They're still right where they always were.
 

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