The Walking Dead ***please use SPOILER tags***

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fljoe0

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Day after the Walking Dead Midwinter premiere, and only one post.. thinking that TWD has pretty much run its course.. be sad to see it go but all things come to an end I guess..


I still like the show but not nearly as much as I once did. I think my interest went South a little starting at Alexandria. Up until the gang arrived at Alexandria, I enjoyed almost every episode. I still like the show, but I'm seeing too many episodes that are boring. The Negan story is good but they've stretched it out too long. The Governor story worked better because it didn't drag out so long. Almost every episode in the Governor story (the first part of the Governor story, not the comeback) was tense but the Negan story has too many dud episodes and has gone on too long.

I think the show would benefit from a reduced schedule, like 10 or 12 episodes instead of 16. And they should quit doing 90 minute episodes when they are struggling to do a good 60 minute episode.
 

arista

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I Think that the show might have jumped the shark with killing Carl. I thought that his death was prolonged, because we all knew it was going to happen. I still like the show. However, it is not the bomb that it used to be. You all know how much I loved TWD.
 

GNTLGNT

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lovely1

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Saw episode 9. I actually liked this episode, a lot better than the last eight, hope the rest of the season gets better. Reminded me of how it used to be a bit.
Carl's death was a bit drawn out, but at least he got to say goodbye and die on his own terms. And so glad that Rick with the beard was Carl's vision and not a dream type thing where it eluded to Rick being in a dream all along phew.
 

Mr Nobody

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SHOCK NEWS!!
I actually liked that ep. Yeah, one thing in particular went on a shade too long, but overall it was much more like how things used to be.
(But OK, I will admit to going in with low expectations, or with full expectation of being disappointed.)

Yeah, I agree with you about his trumped up 'supervisory role'. I loathe some of the things that happened this season, but I was wondering if he was playing a long game with some of the big storylines (not crap like the RPG. That was plain asinine) and there would be a big payoff down the line. Guess we'll never know now.

I read today that while it's still the leading show in its slot, the audience was a record low for a mid-season premiere (a phrase which always strikes me as a tad oxymoronic ;)).
He might have been playing a long game and had something special up his sleeve, or he may not. Personally, I think he just got a bit too full of himself based on how big the show was around season 5/6, despite the fact that most of that was not of his doing. Even during his appearances on Talking Dead he seemed to think the show was succeeding so that meant he could do no wrong. He thought he'd won, he became complacent, and worse, he took the audience for granted (not to mention, mugs). In a sense, if the show carries a metaphor for his tenure as show runner, it is in Ezekiel
aka the man who thought he'd cracked it, only to lose the lot
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mjs9153

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I think ol' Simon may have put his foot in it with his inexplicable decision to off the garbage pail kids,what did he think is going to happen..incidentally,I found the actor's(Steven Ogg)performance evocative of Jack Nicholson in The Shining..full of menacing grins..in fact,he looks to me like a result of Jack's and Billy Bob Thornton's lovechild,if you can imagine that one,what a demonic spawning that would be,LOL..
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Mr Nobody

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Another good ep, IMO.
Negan was actually intimidating rather than clownish, but at times also kind of made sense (if that had only been the case from the beginning...); there was finally clear conflict between him and Simon (Simon is surely not long for that world now); the Beyond Thunderdome cosplayers were taken out, and best of all they remembered there were supposed to be zombies in the zombie apocalypse.
Yes, the escape from the dump and 'Make sure you use the steps' scene were daft (the 'steps' scene if only because it was painfully obvious that they were looking for, then using, a set of stairs), but even then they were nowhere near as WTF-making as some stuff from the recent past. I can't quite give it a free pass, but relatively...I can let it go by, even if it doesn't quite slide.
Great work by the visual FX team for the other dump scene, too. I don't think I'll ever look at mince the same way again.

There's definitely a vibe of change in the air, too. A lot of the trash seems to be getting taken to the kerb, and that makes me wonder if certain things hadn't changed behind the scenes well before any announcement was made. Technically, SMG is/was still supposed to be running the show. I don't know if there's a break in filming at any point (I wouldn't be surprised either way, and in past seasons it's gone from sweltering summer to skirls of fall leaves in one half-season to the next), but the last couple of eps - this one particularly - had a change of style and pace, and even of tone, that I think would have been noticeable even if I hadn't known a new showrunner was imminent.
Ultimately, if this was down to SMG (and I heard, possibly erroneously, that he had practically zero input into the mid-season premiere and a number of other back-half eps) and skimom2 was right about him playing a long(er) game, then fair enough, kudos to him. If, however, there was change behind the scenes mid-season, despite the official announcement coming for S9, then that was clearly a good decision.
The questions now are: can TWD continue on an upward trajectory and, more importantly for the future, can it ever win back the fans it has lost?
 

lovely1

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I'm glad the garbage people are gone. At least the garbage leader is speaking normally again. That scene with the zombie minced up like beef - gross :barf:

And no more sea people too, why did he even go back when they said they didn't want them to come back uggh. Seems unnecessary.

Negan was compassionate kind of...

Two episodes down six more to go :beguiled: