To the thread... I hear ya Giant. I've tried ad nauseum to get a hold of PatriciaA with no luck. At one point, Tery's daughter went to the store where she worked and was going to try to get a report. I've heard nothing further on that. The others that frequent FB now do so it seems for one main reason: no groups here. Furthermore, having watched a couple of these groups migrate over to FB, it's pretty obvious that not just the groups are important, but controlling the commentary as well. I won't mention names, but someone I like a lot has shown themselves to be a bit over the top with the power to control the group. I noticed a lot of people disappeared when we went to the un-moderated posts. Oh well, such is life.