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Grandpa

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A two-pound deflation (probably) isn't going to determine the outcome of a good.

But it's not just the one thing. Smart coaches, and Belichik is one of the smartest, squirrel away their little tactics, methods, and advantages like actuaries squirrel away statistical fluctuations. Because both of them know it isn't the single thing that matters. It's the accumulation of them, over time, over a range of incidence, that will have a cumulative effect that skew the results in a meaningful way to them. The thrower will keep throwing, the receiver will keep receiving, and through it all, in some game, there will be that 50-yard pass where the thrower needs that perfect touch, or whether the receiver hangs on is a matter of a few molecules, and it will be a factor in whether the team advances.

New England, a bona fide Superbowl quality team, didn't need this little advantage to show the Colts what a thrashing looks like. But the apparent fact that they did anyway is indicative of a philosophy that uses their little tactics as a given. It's not that we need to cheat to beat the Colts - it's that the tactic, whether ethical or not, is drummed in as part of the coaching philosophy. You don't bring out the little cheats or nudges only for games that you need them - using them is part of the ongoing culture, as much as the silly superstitions that players develop.

"They cheated? Even if they did, it made no difference." Well, I would argue that's not the standard. We shouldn't judge ethical standards by the game results. They're judged by those two words that come before the "Even."
 

DiO'Bolic

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Nov 14, 2013
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Will the Pro Bowl ever not suck?

You got that right. I watched about 5 minutes worth before turning it off. I understand them not wanting to get injured, but at least fake some of what got them to the Pro Bowl in order to keep it a little interesting.

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And back to the sideshow... Earlier Belichick said he wasn't a scientist or an expert on footballs. Now he moving in on Bill Nye territory, and Nye responds in the Battle of the Bill's.

 
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swiftdog2.0

I tell you one and one makes three...
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Well, it looks like the officials did not record the PSI of the footballs at the pre-game inspection or when they were re-checked at half-time. Also, they said the Colts did not report any problems regarding the footballs after their regular season game against the Patriots.

This creates the one thing that my Dad jokingly told me was the most important thing in life, plausible deniability.........
 

TrueGeneration

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Just popping in to say: That was awful. Ugh.
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Mr Nobody

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Remember the old X Files ep where several suits are in a meeting and the Superbowl comes up, and CSM says something like the Bills will never win it while he is alive, effectively saying the game is and always will be rigged?
Now, I know it was just a line in a TV show and all, but that last Seahawks play...makes ya wonder. The collective reaction of the guys in the pic (and on the sideline generally...both sides, probably) is along the lines of
'Dafuq?'
.

'Nother point: If I were Tom Brady, that would be "Thank you and good night!"
(And...37. How the hell did that happen? I still remember when he was a rookie and it only seems like 5-6 years ago, max. But then, I had a 'fall through the floor' moment when a talking head mentioned that it was 10 years since the Pats last Superbowl win.)

'Nother 'nother point: Might be an idea to shift the Pro Bowl to the week after the Superbowl. That way, players would have the off-season to recover from any knocks, etc. (though I realize that's already the case for most as it stands). If most/all players keep ducking out, the NFL might as well scrap it.
It's a shame the European idea/World League of American Football thing never worked out. The seasons could have run in tandem and instead of the Pro Bowl, the Superbowl champs could take on whoever won whatever you wanted to call the Rest of the World's trophy, and therefore become true World Champions.
(It won't happen, I know, but I think it'd be cool to really open it out. Superbowl, European, and Asian champs, with the winner of a play-off between African and South American teams making up the four, then two semi-finals and a final. All wrapped up by the end of Feb, back again in September. Of course, the NFL would be concerned about the affect on the Superbowl, but look at it this way: every football (soccer) association has its own showpiece event, then there is the Champions' League. And yet, for all that, the English FA Cup final still draws an audience of billions worldwide. It's got the prestige, as has the Superbowl. That won't/wouldn't change.)
 

TrueGeneration

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To quote the loudmouth himself, "you mad, bro?"
(I kid :) )

Haha;-D

Hahaha . . .it was a damn good game~

I agree! It was definitely a very good Super Bowl game! I just still can't believe that call at the end. Oh, well!
Let's Go Giants 2016! ;;D
(That halftime show was really weird. I didn't much care for it.)
 

jacobtlong

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Pete Carroll threw away an easy score with that last play. I don't understand the reasoning at all. If I were Lynch I'd be the most frustrated player of all.

Although I couldn't watch the game anyway. I tried to keep up with it on my phone, but I wasn't aware of the boneheaded last call until I got home early this morning and saw the highlights. It's worse than Wide Right.
 

MrsSmeej

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Feb 15, 2008
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After that crazy, once in a lifetime, you'll NEVER do that again in your LIFE catch, I was sure Seattle was going to win. It was a boneheaded play call, but wowee! Did it make for an exciting game. Really great Super Bowl.

Congrats, Patriots fans! I can't wait for MrsSmeej's poem today! ;-D

"Cue the duck boats," buy confetti, and strike up the band;
Patriots have just been crowned the best team in the land.
Seahawks made it much too close... They had it on the 1
But, for reasons unbeknownst to me, they didn't run.

When Seattle's Russell Wilson tried to throw a pass
Butler's goal line interception saved New England's a$$.
Vindication for the weeks of listening to crap
Came when Brady took a knee after the final snap.

Ten years since their last parade but this makes number 4
Belichick and Brady won (in case you're keeping score.)
There is joy throughout New England, but there's also snow.
Hope the plows can do their job 'cause we intend to go.

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