End of Watch Book Signing?

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skimom2

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And here lies my disappointment with how our world often works. True fans about to be taken advantage of by the opportunistic mentality of others. $500 for tickets to Dayton, OH event. Wow. Talk about high profit margin.

I suppose it makes sense though. If you have nothing but time on your hands to camp out over night for something that obviously you personally don't care about but know others do, you stand to make yourself quite a lot of money.

2 Tickets Stephen King End of Watch Book Tour in Dayton Oh Victoria Theatre 6 9 | eBay

I wonder how many more tickets are going to start popping up on eBay for all of this tour.

No one is being taken advantage of unless they're dumb enough to buy scalped/reseller tickets; if they do, it's their problem. It doesn't make someone more of a fan if they attend (or don't attend) an event, or if they camp out (or don't) to buy a ticket to said event. Resellers are vermin (and sometimes it's illegal) , but they'd stop doing it if people weren't silly enough to pay those prices.
 

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No one is being taken advantage of unless they're dumb enough to buy scalped/reseller tickets; if they do, it's their problem.

I agree with this. If someone chooses to purchase these tickets, they did so on their own and decided it was worth that much to them. On the other hand of course I hate seeing people get tickets to special events and things that a fan might enjoy just to make money off them and sell at a higher price. But that is the case with anything that holds a value to anyone. Concert tickets, sport tickets, rare collectable items, ect.
I feel the majority of people who sat in line stayed overnight and got the tickets are fans, not all of course, but majority. If there is a will there is a way.
 
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RichardX

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I got two tickets to the PA event but it was fairly punishing. Twelve hours driving and standing in line. The book store folks were nice and efficient. They handled it with a minimum of fuss and not like a police action. They also showed mercy on us by selling the tickets an hour or so early once it was clear they had more people in line than tickets. Interesting demographic in looking at the crowd. Nearly 100 percent white and over the age of 30. I didn't see many college age or teenagers. Ironically not very different from a Trump crowd in that respect. LOL You also have to wonder about King's legacy in the longer term since the bulk of his fans appear to be limited to those who grew up reading him in the 70s and 80s.
 
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I got two tickets to the PA event but it was fairly punishing. Twelve hours driving and standing in line. The book store folks were nice and efficient. They handled it with a minimum of fuss and not like a police action. They also showed mercy on us by selling the tickets an hour or so early once it was clear they had more people in line than tickets. Interesting demographic in looking at the crowd. Nearly 100 percent white and over the age of 30. I didn't see many college age or teenagers. Ironically not very different from a Trump crowd in that respect. LOL You also have to wonder about King's legacy in the longer term since the bulk of his fans appear to be limited to those who grew up reading him in the 70s and 80s.

I look at King as the Dickens of our time- he WILL be read a hundred years from now. :grinning:
 

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I am very jealous of all of you folken who have been able to get tickets to see our Master. I hope you all have a wonderful time- listening to Steve talk is one of my biggest thrills in my lifetime. Take lots of deep breaths to calm down so that you will remember every single second!!!
 

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I got two tickets to the PA event but it was fairly punishing. Twelve hours driving and standing in line. The book store folks were nice and efficient. They handled it with a minimum of fuss and not like a police action. They also showed mercy on us by selling the tickets an hour or so early once it was clear they had more people in line than tickets. Interesting demographic in looking at the crowd. Nearly 100 percent white and over the age of 30. I didn't see many college age or teenagers. Ironically not very different from a Trump crowd in that respect. LOL You also have to wonder about King's legacy in the longer term since the bulk of his fans appear to be limited to those who grew up reading him in the 70s and 80s.

I agree that Mr. King's core readers skew toward we older folks--that's only natural as we are age-peers or pretty close. I don't worry about his legacy, however. He does things with language and character that are unique. I do believe his naturalistic sense of pacing--putting a story climax earlier in a novel and then letting the story spool out to a natural end (a Mozart-ian denouement as opposed to a Salierian crash, if you will)--will also be recognized for the innovation that it represents. He has truly changed the way readers expect a story to unfold, and the acceptable range of voices that are allowed to tell those stories. These things, amongst others, will ensure that many of his novels will stand the tests of time and quality. I don't expect that he'll be culled from library shelves any time soon. In time, he'll appear on more and more serious college course lists. I say this not as a sycophant--I have no problem with calling out fluff and excess in some of Mr. King's novels--but as someone who is passionate about books and writing. He has the goods. It just takes time for the literary establishment to recognize that when it comes from unexpected sources.
 

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I agree that Mr. King's core readers skew toward we older folks--that's only natural as we are age-peers or pretty close. I don't worry about his legacy, however. He does things with language and character that are unique. I do believe his naturalistic sense of pacing--putting a story climax earlier in a novel and then letting the story spool out to a natural end (a Mozart-ian denouement as opposed to a Salierian crash, if you will)--will also be recognized for the innovation that it represents. He has truly changed the way readers expect a story to unfold, and the acceptable range of voices that are allowed to tell those stories. These things, amongst others, will ensure that many of his novels will stand the tests of time and quality. I don't expect that he'll be culled from library shelves any time soon. In time, he'll appear on more and more serious college course lists. I say this not as a sycophant--I have no problem with calling out fluff and excess in some of Mr. King's novels--but as someone who is passionate about books and writing. He has the goods. It just takes time for the literary establishment to recognize that when it comes from unexpected sources.

King is obviously wildly popular with a fan base between ages 40-60. Those folks are at the height of their careers and purchasing power. So the market is red hot for anything King at the moment. Twenty years from now when those folks start dying off will be the test of his legacy. I don't see many of the younger age group reading King or having any idea who he is. Unless that changes, I have to believe there will be a decline in his popularity down the road once the older fan base is no longer around. Obviously, his books will always be available but I'm not sure how exactly his legacy pans out in the longer term. It may be more about the number of books written and sold than the merit of the books themselves. That is not to diminish King at all. He is the best at what he does. Which is entertain with wonderful books and stories. A remarkable achievement over fifty years. But I think only time will tell what his literary legacy will be. We can only speculate and current popularity likely skews our perceptions. Popularity is transitory and doesn't count for much in the longer term.
 

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What I see from a bookseller's perspective is that people of all ages and genders are reading King. The funny thing about the older folks in the 'Horror' section is that they are all only buying King and sometimes Rice or Koontz but those are the only authors the older folks are buying from that genre. They buy King by the bucket load. Young and old are elbow to elbow in the "K" section of horror in the store I work at.
The Dark Tower and The Stand graphic novels are really hot with the youngsters, not so hot with the Polident crowd.
I'm thinking younger people don't really connect with book signing events, nor do their pocketbooks.
I wish the higher powers that are in my bookstore chain could have thought to participate in this, especially now that we sell bestsellers direct from the publishers. Oh well. If wishes were horses dude, I'd have a ranch.
 

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Barnes and Noble Reno can go suck an egg, they way they handled the ticket distribution was terrible. I sent my email at the same time my wife sent hers, yet she received an invite and I did not. I am thrilled she is getting to see our hero, but am so bitterly disappointed, I just wish they would have chosen a larger venue that could accommodate more constant readers. I am seriously considering flying to New Mexico....
 

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Did they issue physical tickets for the Nashville event? Someone told me the only options were to download on their phone or print them out but they could only print them a couple days before the event for some unknown reason.
 

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Did they issue physical tickets for the Nashville event? Someone told me the only options were to download on their phone or print them out but they could only print them a couple days before the event for some unknown reason.

I got an email last Saturday with the following message: "Sit Tight - Your Tickets Are Coming For big events it takes time to ensure all orders are from real fans. We'll email you the minute they're ready to view/print/ship - it'll be in plenty of time for STEPHEN KING."

Went to the website and found this, "
IMPORTANT ALERT : There is a delivery delay on this event. Please check the Event Detail Page for information on when the delay will be lifted. Once the delay has been lifted, your tickets will be available via your selected delivery method."
 

skimom2

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King is obviously wildly popular with a fan base between ages 40-60. Those folks are at the height of their careers and purchasing power. So the market is red hot for anything King at the moment. Twenty years from now when those folks start dying off will be the test of his legacy. I don't see many of the younger age group reading King or having any idea who he is. Unless that changes, I have to believe there will be a decline in his popularity down the road once the older fan base is no longer around. Obviously, his books will always be available but I'm not sure how exactly his legacy pans out in the longer term. It may be more about the number of books written and sold than the merit of the books themselves. That is not to diminish King at all. He is the best at what he does. Which is entertain with wonderful books and stories. A remarkable achievement over fifty years. But I think only time will tell what his literary legacy will be. We can only speculate and current popularity likely skews our perceptions. Popularity is transitory and doesn't count for much in the longer term.

It is all speculation, absolutely, but it's important to remember that popularity doesn't equate to legacy. Mr. King has been so very fortunate to have held his popular acclaim for so long, but that only goes so far. All one has to do is go back and look at what were the popular books of most years/eras: most are unread just a few years after publication (that mountain of Fifty Shades of Grey books meme always makes me giggle ). Shakespeare was not the most popular nor the most respected playwright of his era--those would be arguably be Christopher Marlowe and Francis Beaumont, respectively. Yet his works are the ones that are still widely read and performed. He did things that were new, unique, and not of interest just to his particular era--he approached timeless themes rather than just contemporary issues. And he changed the way plays were written and stories told/absorbed. Even if someone never sees a performance of one of Willie Shakes' plays, they benefit from the innovations he introduced. Mr. King has done something similar with popular fiction, with the matching effect one might never read one of his books but still feel the effect of the way he changed the way writers tell stories. Not that I'm saying Mr. King is Shakespeare, just that time is the great decider of influence. The continued sales of his books to a cross section of population indicate that his legacy is shaping to be strong and decided.
 

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Barnes and Noble Reno can go suck an egg, they way they handled the ticket distribution was terrible. I sent my email at the same time my wife sent hers, yet she received an invite and I did not. I am thrilled she is getting to see our hero, but am so bitterly disappointed, I just wish they would have chosen a larger venue that could accommodate more constant readers. I am seriously considering flying to New Mexico....

I, too, did not get a Reno ticket, but I am doing New Mexico! I am in Canada, but determined to see Sai King! This will be my first time and I am very excited!
 

RichardX

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It is all speculation, absolutely, but it's important to remember that popularity doesn't equate to legacy. Mr. King has been so very fortunate to have held his popular acclaim for so long, but that only goes so far. All one has to do is go back and look at what were the popular books of most years/eras: most are unread just a few years after publication (that mountain of Fifty Shades of Grey books meme always makes me giggle ). Shakespeare was not the most popular nor the most respected playwright of his era--those would be arguably be Christopher Marlowe and Francis Beaumont, respectively. Yet his works are the ones that are still widely read and performed. He did things that were new, unique, and not of interest just to his particular era--he approached timeless themes rather than just contemporary issues. And he changed the way plays were written and stories told/absorbed. Even if someone never sees a performance of one of Willie Shakes' plays, they benefit from the innovations he introduced. Mr. King has done something similar with popular fiction, with the matching effect one might never read one of his books but still feel the effect of the way he changed the way writers tell stories. Not that I'm saying Mr. King is Shakespeare, just that time is the great decider of influence. The continued sales of his books to a cross section of population indicate that his legacy is shaping to be strong and decided.

Right now I see him on par with Bradbury in terms of legacy. I do think the large number of movies made based on King's books will ensure they continue to be in the public eye. There will always be a new generation of kids watching those and inevitably some will become fans of his books. And there are still hopefully many books yet to be written. Maybe he goes out with some magnus opus like Bowie.
 
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