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Is everyone missing the point?

Discussion in '11/22/63' started by Joe Holt, Dec 20, 2015.

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Do you believe Lee Oswald assassinated President Kennedy?

  1. yes

  2. no

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  1. kay brown

    kay brown Well-Known Member

    ... yes you are right .. futile
     
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  2. muskrat

    muskrat Dis-Member

    People ask me who killed JFK I say, 'Nobody.' He faked his death, just like Elvis, and the two spent many a lazy Sunday sharing peanut butter banana bacon sandwiches and playing miniature golf. I mean, they're dead by now, rest their souls, but they oulived the sixties in a duplex apartment in Salem, Indiana and made decent wages as lookalike entertainers. Everybody knows this.
     
  3. Winter

    Winter Well-Known Member

  4. kay brown

    kay brown Well-Known Member

    No I am not putting any stock in anything other than the facts... a persons screen name next to the words "likes this" .. pretty much says they like this ..I would "ask" you to go back in this the thread of this post in all my comments and copy/paste where I am "telling people they are wrong"..as you just stated...using those words.. there should be many incidents as you just said and I quote "repeatedly" telling them they are wrong"... this is a controversial topic and there are sides .. please show me in this post where I have used the words ..where I am telling some one they are wrong...and if I have and please use the reply # I will acknowledge it ... now I did say people were wrong in another post ... one that I started...and I toned it down there after.. after everyone flipped out .. but I don't think I did this one ... ..why I keep replying is there a bias that I perceive ..an unfairness ...from the members to the certain moderators... yeah I get it .. no one wants to hear what I have to say ...... including you which is obvious ...would you also go back and list the reply # where you have publicly chastised other members who have been negative towards me .. have used not only a tone but words that were insulting towards me" ... where you have went on for a few paragraphs telling them what is wrong about their behavior ...does it matter that what they say in that respect towards me rankles me? ...or does it only matter that they get rankled.. of course it doesn't.
     
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  5. Moderator

    Moderator Ms. Mod Administrator

    Sorry, but I've got a lot of other things that are higher on my priority list of things to do. If you don't get it that it's your tone that's coming across in that way, then you don't get it. We can agree to disagree.
     
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  6. muskrat

    muskrat Dis-Member

    Poor Marsha! You have my permission to 'Irish up' your next cup of coffee if you so desire. Maybe have yer significant other massage yer feet tonight.
     
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  7. not_nadine

    not_nadine Comfortably Roont

    Maybe after all this time with us, Marsha has trained her feet to massage themselves at will. And blink some Baileys in.
     
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  8. Anduan Pirate Princess

    Anduan Pirate Princess Well-Known Member

    Haha, that's ok, Patricia! I was just scanning the last few pages of this thread and I keep reading "patsy" as "pasty." Oswald was a pasty (pastie?) And now I'm giggling like an 8-year-old. I'm clearly very mature. ;)

    P.S.--I don't mean the old English term for pastry; more like the type of pasties that banana above might be thinking about wearing! :biggrin-new:
     
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  9. staropeace

    staropeace Richard Bachman's love child

    Btw, I have read this book four times. There is no King book that I have not read. I have been on the message board for ten years.
     
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  10. Jason ML

    Jason ML Member

    My belief at this point is that the evidence overwhelmingly suggests he was the lone gunman. But even now I'm still careful to say "suggests" rather than "proves". I don't know if it can ever be definitely proven now if he was alone. He was part of it, I'm definitely willing to say the evidence goes so far as to prove that. He WAS in the book depository with that rifle and did take shots. Was he the only one? Was his the only bullets to find a mark? I believe yes. But that part is where I always fall back to "suggestion" rather than "proof".
     
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  11. MikiM

    MikiM Active Member

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    I don't think he was a patsy...I think he was part of a conspiracy, and did not act alone. My uncle was with the DPD when the assassination occurred, and was one of the cops escorting Oswald when Ruby shot him. That ALSO was part of the conspiracy, as my uncle said that Oswald's transfer was SUPPOSED to be EXTREMELY clandestine. He will not say very much about the assassination, however...only that like I said, Oswald was not the only shooter, he WAS a fall guy, and that if my uncle TL said any more, he along with his entire family tree will disappear. And I mean ENTIRE, down to the last SEED.
     
  12. RichardX

    RichardX Well-Known Member

    I guess your uncle is in trouble then since you posted this on the Internet! LOL. The transfer of Oswald was not "clandestine" if by that you mean it was supposed to be secret. To contrary and ironically, one of things that got the DPD in trouble was being overly transparent. They did not want to be accused of mistreatment of Oswald and so allowed the press the run of the police station. There was absolute chaos in the halls caused by the reporters. Oswald was allowed to freely speak with the press and even gave a press conference. The DPD announced the time of the transfer to the press the day before and it was carried on national TV. Ruby actually went to send a money order to one of his employees and would have missed the transfer had it happened on schedule. Something he certainly would not have done had he been intending to kill Oswald. Instead he happened to see the commotion and showed up at almost the last second. He left his dog who was by all accounts his most beloved companion in the car. Something those who knew him said he would not have done had his plan been to kill Oswald and go to jail that day. Rather all indications are that it was a spontaneous event.
     
  13. Big_Lou

    Big_Lou Well-Known Member

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  14. MikiM

    MikiM Active Member

    LOL...He was TOLD it was SUPPOSED to be confidential, but you know how THAT goes. Everything I've said is pretty much public record. He wouldn't have said anything to anyone otherwise. He knows a lot more, though. I told him he should write a book to be published posthumously, but he shook his head saying that he worried it would STILL end up with everyone in his family dead. Even TODAY, he still says it. As for Ruby...I don't really put TOO much store into what those who knew him say. We all know how that goes..."But he was such a nice guy! So quiet, loved animals...took in strays all the time.." etc etc etc... :)
     
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  15. RichardX

    RichardX Well-Known Member


    That is what they all say just before the hit team comes calling. If you come under any form of coercion, work in a secret code phrase like "the black dog runs at night" to let us know. Ms. Mod will deploy the rescue team. Remember, the conspirators still play hard ball despite their octogenarian status. So don't underestimate them even if they are drooling soup.:cool:
     
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  16. chief4db

    chief4db When it doubt, run!

    I believe he shot Kennedy but he did not act alone. He got off 3 shots in 7 seconds with an Italian bolt action rifle. He hit em including a head shot.

    They had navy seals try and duplicate that and couldn't do it in perfect conditions. Not to mention no stress that Oswald was under. His heart had to be pounding, sweating in that heat. Seal had barely enough time to cycle threw 3 rounds let alone time to aim.
     
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  17. Jason ML

    Jason ML Member

    I dunno, I remember watching a documentary not too long ago where they filmed an elderly gentleman in the same spot, with the same type of rifle, and he got off the 3 shots in about six seconds. That its particularly difficult for someone who's at least halfway decent with a rifle to get three shots off in seven seconds I'm pretty sure was a fallacy perpetuated by the movie JFK. A film which takes A LOT of creative liberties. Which is a nice way of saying it made up almost everything. If you're referring to a different source of course I'd be interested to check out what it was.
     
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  18. RichardX

    RichardX Well-Known Member


    No one knows exactly how long it took Oswald to fire the three shots since there is no way to know when the first and last shot was fired. It could easily have been 10 seconds or longer. The feat has been duplicated by non-experts and the shots were not difficult. CBS did a recreation back in the 60's that confirmed this. The MC rifle used by Oswald was prone to jamming but if it did not jam then it was an efficient rifle easily capable of hitting JFK with a scope at that distance. By comparison, Charles Whitman who received the same USMC training as Oswald, hit human targets at almost three times the distance of Oswald's longest shot in the JFK assassination.

     
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  19. MikiM

    MikiM Active Member

    I do believe he was ONE of the shooters...and I do believe he WAS the patsy.
     
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  20. kay brown

    kay brown Well-Known Member

    I believe you to be correct in that Oswald had prior knowledge that there was to be an attempt to kill JFK. I believe he was a low level cia asset .. I do not believe he fired a gun that day.. I do believe he was set up way in advance to take the fall. I also believe that Ruby was ordered to silence Oswald .. the cia and mob were in bed together from earlier ventures...JFK being killed they were also conjoined but there were other players as well ..ie: Hoover .. LBJ who set the Warren commission up to promote the lone nut theory.. .. in my earlier replys of which garnered much derision I have listed links and infor to support the following ..the man who shot Tibbit who bears a resemblence to Oswald was actually meant to prevent Oswald from being taken into custody by killing him.. however he ran into Tibbit and there ensued a confrontation and he killed Tibbit ( google image search "james files 21 years old" ).. the first picture shows James Files with a dark haired man.. he is the man who Files claims killed Tibbit... research if you desire and form your own opinions.
     
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