Yes, these senior citizens can get up to the dickens when they fight EVIL unleashed in Florida.Thanks a lot, Staro, now I need to read this.
Pitch me a sequel
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....but only after they attend the Early Bird Buffet.....
I would have to go with just more Derry Interlude stories. More on the terror that is Pennywise!
I'm thinking a prequel with the protagonist being Branson Buddinger, the historian that wrote a book about Derry's history and eventually hung himself. Maybe he gets too close to the truth, maybe, since IT should still be hibernating it uses certain people from Derry(Butch Bowers or Al Marsh possibly)as minions to keep it safe while IT slumbers. Officer Nell could be a main character, he grew up in Derry and I bet has some stories to tell. Just a thought.
I always considered Mike Hanlon to be one of SK best characters and always felt bad for mike. It got me thinking that even though they have all forgotton, maybe years later a young kid is doing a paper on the flood of 85 and decides to do some interviews. He would obviously need to go to the library and when he does the new head librarian tells him Mike Hanlon's address. Mike ends up remembering some things as the boy asks his questions and begins to have strange visions and nightmares.
what do you think. Could either be a Short Story, novella or book
what do you think. Could either be a Short Story, novella or book
My feeble shot at glory -
IT values self preservation and is very very powerful. The kids almost beat him in 1958 - so he has 30 years to plan something, and time is on his side... unless a bunch of 70 year olds are going to raid the sewer.
He can project fear onto the kids, because scared kids are tasty kids. But I don't believe he can only be scary ... it's a choice.
He can got to the mattresses, skip or delay a hunting cycle and project onto the kids their victory. I doubt he's going to drop dead of hunger if he doesn't eat ...he may have some nuts squirreled away for winter.
Anyway ... long and short is we know the turtle seemed dead or MIA when the kids came back..think there is a story there (if it hasn't been told). I don't think it would be too difficult for him to fake the whole spider battle in a convincing way. Kids go away thinking they won; Pennywise survives and is likely very cranky from hunger, and a Snickers isn't going to cut it.
Of coarse, modern fears being what they are... cant really picture Pennywise trolling chat rooms for kids, pretending to be a mean girl or faking an embarrassing youtube video...
IT values self preservation and is very very powerful. The kids almost beat him in 1958 - so he has 30 years to plan something, and time is on his side... unless a bunch of 70 year olds are going to raid the sewer.
He can project fear onto the kids, because scared kids are tasty kids. But I don't believe he can only be scary ... it's a choice.
He can got to the mattresses, skip or delay a hunting cycle and project onto the kids their victory. I doubt he's going to drop dead of hunger if he doesn't eat ...he may have some nuts squirreled away for winter.
Anyway ... long and short is we know the turtle seemed dead or MIA when the kids came back..think there is a story there (if it hasn't been told). I don't think it would be too difficult for him to fake the whole spider battle in a convincing way. Kids go away thinking they won; Pennywise survives and is likely very cranky from hunger, and a Snickers isn't going to cut it.
Of coarse, modern fears being what they are... cant really picture Pennywise trolling chat rooms for kids, pretending to be a mean girl or faking an embarrassing youtube video...
I still stand by that IT does not need a sequel. The story is so perfectly contained. A sequel to IT is liable to feel very Doctor Sleep-ish - which isn't good to me imo. The Shining was another King book with a high focus on character and very contained. I feel the sequel took some of that away.
Books like The Stand and Salem's Lot are I think could carry sequels to some degree.
Anyway, not my place to point it out or suggest such things to Mr. King. 2010s have produced some of his best novels.
My IT sequel pitch:
Pennywise was indeed killed by the Losers in the 80s, but due to the immense power the creature has, IT left a psychic imprint on Derry and the area surrounding. So, IT had kind of a fail safe, get me? This explains why the clown's presence is still felt throughout the region and explains references in other books post -IT's death.
Anyway, Pennywise's psychic ghost somehow manages to somehow influence someone or some people living in 2010s period. This person - group is lead to a 'rabbit hole' by IT in which they can travel back to 1957.
This person - group serves to take out the Losers before they ever figure out the Ritual of Chud and other weaknesses the clown has.
I imagine Jake Epping from 11/22/63 would also have to chase the bad people through the 'rabbit hole' as well.
Books like The Stand and Salem's Lot are I think could carry sequels to some degree.
Anyway, not my place to point it out or suggest such things to Mr. King. 2010s have produced some of his best novels.
My IT sequel pitch:
Pennywise was indeed killed by the Losers in the 80s, but due to the immense power the creature has, IT left a psychic imprint on Derry and the area surrounding. So, IT had kind of a fail safe, get me? This explains why the clown's presence is still felt throughout the region and explains references in other books post -IT's death.
Anyway, Pennywise's psychic ghost somehow manages to somehow influence someone or some people living in 2010s period. This person - group is lead to a 'rabbit hole' by IT in which they can travel back to 1957.
This person - group serves to take out the Losers before they ever figure out the Ritual of Chud and other weaknesses the clown has.
I imagine Jake Epping from 11/22/63 would also have to chase the bad people through the 'rabbit hole' as well.
Is Pennywise hooked into Skynet? Because it sounds like The Terminator...
Eh, I'm sure the plot archetype existed before Terminator. The plot of going back in time to kill who stops you. Terminator is just probably most popular example.
Robert Gray
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I've said it before, and I'll say it again... to revive Pennywise after this final battle with the Losers would invalidate everything they did. It would make a liar of the the voice of the Other which spoke to Bill. One does not make a liar out of God. Nobody loves this book more than I. Naturally, I want the story to go on. But that part of us that wants a sequel is just a "Hungry Ghost" and would never be satisfied anyway. No perfect ending (and we already have one) would be enough. It is best to leave the table full but wanting more. It is best to retire a story at its height, Calvin & Hobbs style.
Thus, I won't pitch a sequel. A new story in Derry that has nothing to do with the clown, at least not directly is always possible. We have kind of had that intersection already. It is my belief that Derry has one big thinny under it. That is the pinhole through which the Deadlights crept and were able to manifest an avatar that was Pennywise. Who knows, perhaps it was the arrival of It that created the thinny in the first place. Derry is always going to be different, but the tyranny of the Pennywise is over there. I've always felt there was more to the story of the Derry Iron Works. Some part of me says that the Losers who defeated It were not the first instruments of the Other. Some part of me says there were other children (and perhaps a few adults) who stood against It. I've always been drawn to the idea of writing some fan fiction, i.e. to tell that story, albeit one that ends very badly. I never have for several reasons:
1. I'm not sure fan fiction is all that flattering to authors.
2. It just feels wrong without permission.
3. I still harbor some suspicion that King himself may one day tell us what happened during that cycle.
That brings us full circle to this topic. No sequel, but perhaps an expansion (as short story, a novella, or a novel) on incidents alluded to in the book. I don't have an adverse reaction to that idea at all.
Thus, I won't pitch a sequel. A new story in Derry that has nothing to do with the clown, at least not directly is always possible. We have kind of had that intersection already. It is my belief that Derry has one big thinny under it. That is the pinhole through which the Deadlights crept and were able to manifest an avatar that was Pennywise. Who knows, perhaps it was the arrival of It that created the thinny in the first place. Derry is always going to be different, but the tyranny of the Pennywise is over there.
I've always felt there was more to the story of the Derry Iron Works. Some part of me says that the Losers who defeated It were not the first instruments of the Other. Some part of me says there were other children (and perhaps a few adults) who stood against It. I've always been drawn to the idea of writing some fan fiction, i.e. to tell that story, albeit one that ends very badly. I never have for several reasons:1. I'm not sure fan fiction is all that flattering to authors.
2. It just feels wrong without permission.
3. I still harbor some suspicion that King himself may one day tell us what happened during that cycle.
That brings us full circle to this topic. No sequel, but perhaps an expansion (as short story, a novella, or a novel) on incidents alluded to in the book. I don't have an adverse reaction to that idea at all.
A sequel would be very nice, but the problem is, there are no loose ends left, nothing from which the new story would start. It is dead, the Losers forgot all about each other (except Ben and Beverly of course), two of them died, Derry's better part is collapsed, and even if Ben DID miss one of It's hatchlings, it could not survive all by itself without its mommy for too long. The ONLY possible firm grip could be the fact that It was pregnant when the Losers fought it the first time, and It laid eggs and they already hatched well before the adult Losers came back. And...well...that is mighty few to think about a sequel. Even if we could, it'd take about 4-5 cycles for the "small" It to grow to a size and learn how It could hunt people.
A spinoff however, would be a fine idea. Stories of other kids, perhaps adults, who have witnessed It, learned about it, but decided to flee the city eventually. Most of the time, It was acting off-screen. A very nice "campaign" could be written 'bout these side stories, y'know...
A spinoff however, would be a fine idea. Stories of other kids, perhaps adults, who have witnessed It, learned about it, but decided to flee the city eventually. Most of the time, It was acting off-screen. A very nice "campaign" could be written 'bout these side stories, y'know...
What if thirty yars after the events in Derry the murders start again? What if It didn't die? What if It can't really be destroyed? What if It is immortal? If in order for Light toexist there needs to be Darkness. If for the existense of the universe (the Macroverse) It is essential. What if the Losers merely killed It's earth form? If It weakened, waited, healed, gathered strength, strength to return and avenge the Losers, Derry and mankind? What if in the catacombs beneath Derry the Dead Lights burn again? If the sygil on the small wooden door reappears? Bill, Mike, Bevery, Ritchie and Ben are old now, some of them may even be dead, besides the have forgotten what they lived through. But a new Losers Club forms, a special group of children who once again face It. It, who doesn't just want a few children this time around. It wants Derry. Or maybe even more...
(Apologies if this has already been pitched)
This is for television. We call it "Stranger Things" and cast a bunch of 12-13 year olds who fight a monster from another dimension. Much like "It" draws on late 50's/early 60's nostalgia, this time we make it all about the 80's. Just to put a finer point on it, we cast Winona Ryder as the crazy Mom.
We air it on Netflix and I'm sure it'll be a hit.
This is for television. We call it "Stranger Things" and cast a bunch of 12-13 year olds who fight a monster from another dimension. Much like "It" draws on late 50's/early 60's nostalgia, this time we make it all about the 80's. Just to put a finer point on it, we cast Winona Ryder as the crazy Mom.
We air it on Netflix and I'm sure it'll be a hit.
I would like to see a portion of where it takes place when the town first began. And maybe a future set where the creature travels. Not dimensional travel, maybe. But more of going all about the Stephen King Maine.
Good to be here, looking forward to insight and guidance of all things Stephen King. Especially Pennywise content.
