I might be swimming against the tide, but...

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Grandpa

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Yeah, it depends on one's environment.

Growing up, my mom would demand apologies for slights imagined and real, large and small, and it gave her a measure of moral superiority for the occasion. To this youngster, "I'm sorry" was code for "Here's what you want, Mom."

But I got used to saying, "I'm sorry," or, "I apologize," and it just became part of my verbal reflexes, something I said, oh, every 10 minutes or so, not even thinking about it. It was a conditioned statement. Then one time, a stalwart colleague said, "Stop apologizing so much. It's not necessary. Besides, people want performance over apology." It was a bit of an epiphany. It was one of those life-changing moments, in its own small way. I focused more on doing things right. If you have a clear conscience, apologies aren't quite as prevalent.

"My bad" grated on me at first, because from an English standpoint, you're nouning an adjective. ;) But I grasped it pretty quickly as a fair equivalent of "I'm sorry," i.e., "I take responsibility."

"No problem" is something I might say if someone feels they're inconveniencing me, except I would probably expand it to, "It's not a problem," and try to be cultured and cool about it. If I'm holding a door open or passing a croissant across the table and get told "Thank you," my reflex response is "You're welcome" or "Certainly." (I don't know the value of "Certainly." I just think it sounds nice.)
 

Alexandra M

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...lessee, I'm a white boy in rural Ohio who likes people of all colors, creeds, national origins and lifestyles, opera is a bunch hooey, most "hot" painters these days look like they graduated from the "elephant with a brush in his trunk" school, I love guns, I live gas guzzling hoggish Jeeps-and maybe shockingly to some-I don't give a rat's hind end if ya'll think I'm nuttier than a seven year old fruitcake....I know there are a certain few here that would holler in joy if I disappeared and you ya know what?-I'm gonna sleep just fine....ooo yeah, chocolate chip cookies AREN'T the bestest ever....

Please don't disappear....
 

Alexandra M

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I often wonder what teenagers would think of a Miss Manners, or etiquette class of the 1950's. How or why did that generations manners/ respect get misplaced?

I think good manners, respect for your elders, etc. are taught at home. It is not up to the school system to each them. We dump a lot on our educators in Canada; more each year. They are their
to educate our children and grandchildren not to make up for our shortcomings. I think some parents/guardians just don't take the time to teach their children or perhaps they were never taught or
the obvious; they just don't care.
 

Alexandra M

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I never got into Friends. I know so many people who say that's their favorite show, but I just never jumped on that bandwagon.
A couple of members mentioned it, but I hate Facebook. Hate it. Unfortunately, my friends use it a lot so sometimes it's the only way to communicate with them *sigh*

I watched Friends once, for about 10 minutes. Never did like Jennifer A. Not big on comedies except for Big Bang Theory.
 

Alexandra M

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I seriously think that some people can never say sorry. What is up with so many people saying "my bad". This does not mean the same to me as I am sorry.
I agree it's very annoying. Erks me when you say thank you to someone and they reply 'no worries'. WTH is that all about? They are either lazy or have never been taught proper manners.
 

Spideyman

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I think good manners, respect for your elders, etc. are taught at home. It is not up to the school system to each them. We dump a lot on our educators in Canada; more each year. They are their
to educate our children and grandchildren not to make up for our shortcomings. I think some parents/guardians just don't take the time to teach their children or perhaps they were never taught or
the obvious; they just don't care.
Was not putting the job of teaching manners and respect upon the school system. Back in the '50's there were classes offered to the general public- parents included- to teach proper manners/ etiquette. Parents/ grandparents of that era had and taught the respect and manners to there children.
Agree it should be taught, or at least exampled in the home. My question is what happened to those patents who were respectful to elders, used good manners and etiquette in their passing it down to their children/
 

Dana Jean

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Was not putting the job of teaching manners and respect upon the school system. Back in the '50's there were classes offered to the general public- parents included- to teach proper manners/ etiquette. Parents/ grandparents of that era had and taught the respect and manners to there children.
Agree it should be taught, or at least exampled in the home. My question is what happened to those patents who were respectful to elders, used good manners and etiquette in their passing it down to their children/
from your neck of the woods, spidey, kids are taught in school to answer with a yes ma'am, yes sir -- no ma'am no sir. My sister was a teacher (just retired) and it was a big no-no to answer with a yes or no without the others attached.
 

hossenpepper

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No, I've enjoyed it. Except for the Friends and Seinfeld bashing....:mad:;)
I am with you OoO. Seinfeld was genius. It was the look inside the neurotic NYC mind. So many classic things that have entered the zeitgeist from that show. Friends also was hilarious. Maybe some find "New York" humor too pretentious? I don't say that insultingly, as I've heard the same thing said about some British humor and sitcoms. To each their own on that stuff. I can find joy n things without others' approval and I suspect the same goes for them. :)