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Dana Jean

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That breaks my heart.
I'm not understanding why they had to put it down. Okay, so the herd wouldn't accept it. Have they not heard of bottle feeding? I know a ton of kids in 4H who bottle fed calves. If they couldn't release it back into the wild, it could have gone to a sanctuary, many are set up for wild animals. Hell! They bottle feed baby rhinos and elephants! But we're too lazy to bottle feed this bison?
 

Spideyman

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I'm not understanding why they had to put it down. Okay, so the herd wouldn't accept it. Have they not heard of bottle feeding? I know a ton of kids in 4H who bottle fed calves. If they couldn't release it back into the wild, it could have gone to a sanctuary, many are set up for wild animals. Hell! They bottle feed baby rhinos and elephants! But we're too lazy to bottle feed this bison?
Absolute agreement. I couldn't post more cause I would have ranted beyond what you said. That wasn't handle right at all.
 

Neesy

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I'm not understanding why they had to put it down. Okay, so the herd wouldn't accept it. Have they not heard of bottle feeding? I know a ton of kids in 4H who bottle fed calves. If they couldn't release it back into the wild, it could have gone to a sanctuary, many are set up for wild animals. Hell! They bottle feed baby rhinos and elephants! But we're too lazy to bottle feed this bison?

Absolute agreement. I couldn't post more cause I would have ranted beyond what you said. That wasn't handle right at all.
Ranchers : Manitoba Bison Association

Well - I guess it could have gone to a ranch...

But then I realized they raise these bison so that they end up on a dinner plate at a fancy restaurant :confusion::facepalm_smiley:
 

Spideyman

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Ranchers : Manitoba Bison Association

Well - I guess it could have gone to a ranch...

But then I realized they raise these bison so that they end up on a dinner plate at a fancy restaurant :confusion::facepalm_smiley:


From ABC news
A bison calf recently had to be euthanized at Yellowstone National Parkafter visitors put it in the back of their car, according to park officials.

Now, many are asking, "Why?"

"There are multiple reasons," Charissa Reid, who works for the park's public affairs office, told ABC News today. "First, we want people to understand that our rangers really made a heroic effort to return the calf to the wild. No one ever becomes a park ranger because they want to kill animals. What happened was really unfortunate."

Park rangers spent over two days trying to get the bison calf to return to a herd, but it just kept getting rejected, Reid said. She added that the calf "wouldn't eat" and kept returning to the roadway and seemed to "be very imprinted on cars and people."

"Rangers had to make the tough decision because we didn't want it to get hit or cause an accident that could harm itself or other people," she said.

Reid also explained why the baby bison couldn't just be sent to a wildlife sanctuary or zoo.



"You have to understand that we're not in the business of animal rescue," she said. "It's also illegal to transport wild bison outside the park without having them tested and monitored for brucellosis."

Brucellosis is a disease that causes abortions, infertility and lowered milk production in bison, according to the U.S. Department of Agriculture's Animal and Plant Health Inspection Service (APHIS).

"The park just doesn't have the facility or capacity to quarantine, test and monitor the calf," Reid said, adding that the process also takes months.

"It was just a very inhumane situation," she said. "The calf was either going to starve to death, get sick, get hit or cause an accident, so we had to make the difficult decision to put it down."

Reid also said that wildlife in national parks being euthanized is an "extremely rare occurrence."

"There might be an occasion where a deer or elk gets fatally injured, and a ranger might shoot the animal to end its pain," she said, "but we do not do this lightly or frequently."

In contrast, incidents of illegal visitor interactions with wildlife have become more common in the past few years, Reid said.

"It could be that we've had more people coming than ever or the advent of the cell phone and people wanting to get that picture," she said. "But regardless, visitors need to realize it's important to follow the rules for their safety and the animals' safety."

Reid added, "You should stay at least 25 yards away from any animal and at least 100 yards away from wolves or bears."

Sorry, but there had to be a a better way, and if not in place needs to be now. There will always be tourists who do not obey the rules/ how many more innocent critters need to die??? Tender subject, cry pardon.
 

Neesy

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From ABC news
A bison calf recently had to be euthanized at Yellowstone National Parkafter visitors put it in the back of their car, according to park officials.

Now, many are asking, "Why?"

"There are multiple reasons," Charissa Reid, who works for the park's public affairs office, told ABC News today. "First, we want people to understand that our rangers really made a heroic effort to return the calf to the wild. No one ever becomes a park ranger because they want to kill animals. What happened was really unfortunate."

Park rangers spent over two days trying to get the bison calf to return to a herd, but it just kept getting rejected, Reid said. She added that the calf "wouldn't eat" and kept returning to the roadway and seemed to "be very imprinted on cars and people."

"Rangers had to make the tough decision because we didn't want it to get hit or cause an accident that could harm itself or other people," she said.

Reid also explained why the baby bison couldn't just be sent to a wildlife sanctuary or zoo.



"You have to understand that we're not in the business of animal rescue," she said. "It's also illegal to transport wild bison outside the park without having them tested and monitored for brucellosis."

Brucellosis is a disease that causes abortions, infertility and lowered milk production in bison, according to the U.S. Department of Agriculture's Animal and Plant Health Inspection Service (APHIS).

"The park just doesn't have the facility or capacity to quarantine, test and monitor the calf," Reid said, adding that the process also takes months.

"It was just a very inhumane situation," she said. "The calf was either going to starve to death, get sick, get hit or cause an accident, so we had to make the difficult decision to put it down."

Reid also said that wildlife in national parks being euthanized is an "extremely rare occurrence."

"There might be an occasion where a deer or elk gets fatally injured, and a ranger might shoot the animal to end its pain," she said, "but we do not do this lightly or frequently."

In contrast, incidents of illegal visitor interactions with wildlife have become more common in the past few years, Reid said.

"It could be that we've had more people coming than ever or the advent of the cell phone and people wanting to get that picture," she said. "But regardless, visitors need to realize it's important to follow the rules for their safety and the animals' safety."

Reid added, "You should stay at least 25 yards away from any animal and at least 100 yards away from wolves or bears."

Sorry, but there had to be a a better way, and if not in place needs to be now. There will always be tourists who do not obey the rules/ how many more innocent critters need to die??? Tender subject, cry pardon.
Thanks - makes sense now.
 

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Thanks for posting that, Spidey.

I wish people would take in the notion that National Parks are established to preserve the natural state for generations to come to appreciate and enjoy. It's not an interactive game. It's not a petting zoo. Take only photographs. Leave only footprints. Stay on the roads and trails. If you abuse it, then the experiences for generations to follow are lessened. Stop touching things. You don't belong. You're there on a pass.
 

Spideyman

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Thanks for posting that, Spidey.

I wish people would take in the notion that National Parks are established to preserve the natural state for generations to come to appreciate and enjoy. It's not an interactive game. It's not a petting zoo. Take only photographs. Leave only footprints. Stay on the roads and trails. If you abuse it, then the experiences for generations to follow are lessened. Stop touching things. You don't belong. You're there on a pass.
Thank you kind sir. That is spot on!
 

Tery

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Thanks for posting that, Spidey.

I wish people would take in the notion that National Parks are established to preserve the natural state for generations to come to appreciate and enjoy. It's not an interactive game. It's not a petting zoo. Take only photographs. Leave only footprints. Stay on the roads and trails. If you abuse it, then the experiences for generations to follow are lessened. Stop touching things. You don't belong. You're there on a pass.

:clap:
 

fljoe0

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The Olympics in Brazil is really turning out to be a potential disaster. I feel bad for the athletes who have no control over the shady way the locations for these games are picked and are stuck with competing in bad conditions. The condition of the water in Guanabara Bay where several events will be held is appalling. When Rio de Janeiro was awarded the Olympics, there was a promise to clean this up before the games were to take place. Here is where we are with a couple of months to go:


 

fljoe0

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I read this article in Mother Jones on private prisons. A reporter went undercover for 4 months as a prison guard at one of these private facilities. It's an interesting read but very long. It's amazing how easily he was hired but I guess with what they were paying, they'd take anyone. He didn't lie on his application and even gave his real name. I'm sure they are doing a little better on their background checks after hiring a reporter. ;-D

My Four Months as a Private Prison Guard: A Mother Jones Investigation | Mother Jones
 

GNTLGNT

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I read this article in Mother Jones on private prisons. A reporter went undercover for 4 months as a prison guard at one of these private facilities. It's an interesting read but very long. It's amazing how easily he was hired but I guess with what they were paying, they'd take anyone. He didn't lie on his application and even gave his real name. I'm sure they are doing a little better on their background checks after hiring a reporter. ;-D

My Four Months as a Private Prison Guard: A Mother Jones Investigation | Mother Jones
...that's one of the issues with corporation owned Institutions, they pay nothing-so take anybody wanting a job....training is poor to non-existent, therefore security is compromised and safety is absent...this is a definite case of "you get what you pay for".....