My Own Annie Wilkes Experience......

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swiftdog2.0

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Also, religious zealots can be their own special kind of crazy. The fact that it was a "bible study" he abducted you for raises a whole other set of red flags for me. Please watch yourself and if he tries to contact you again call the authorities right away!
 

FlakeNoir

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I'm a bit ignorant on U.S law, but isn't this an actual abduction? He put hands on him, he took his phone and drove him somewhere that he didn't want to be... all of this was against Cody's wishes. How far can the law go with this? Can they arrest, based on this?
 

swiftdog2.0

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I'm a bit ignorant on U.S law, but isn't this an actual abduction? He put hands on him, he took his phone and drove him somewhere that he didn't want to be... all of this was against Cody's wishes. How far can the law go with this? Can they arrest, based on this?

It sounds like an abduction or unlawful imprisonment. I'd be interested to hear what the authorities had to say to the OP.
 

FlakeNoir

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It sounds like an abduction or unlawful imprisonment. I'd be interested to hear what the authorities had to say to the OP.
That guy needs to be taken off the street at any rate... there is nothing that he did that could be classed as normal behaviour and quite a lot of it seemed like criminal behaviour to me. So scary...
 

TheRedQueen

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I just really hope the cops in his town are better than the ones here. I have a friend who was in a very similar situation to Achtungbaby, only my friend was almost beaten to death by the end of it. It's a miracle that he survived. And the cops did nothing but laugh, because my friend and his assailant just happened to have been at a gay bar earlier in the night. The cops didn't even care to find out if these two knew each other or anything. They just made their assumptions, and laughed their way down the street.
I pray that is not the case with Cody.

Please keep us posted dear, and let us know how they're treating you.
 

FlakeNoir

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I just really hope the cops in his town are better than the ones here. I have a friend who was in a very similar situation to Achtungbaby, only my friend was almost beaten to death by the end of it. It's a miracle that he survived. And the cops did nothing but laugh, because my friend and his assailant just happened to have been at a gay bar earlier in the night. The cops didn't even care to find out if these two knew each other or anything. They just made their assumptions, and laughed their way down the street.
I pray that is not the case with Cody.

Please keep us posted dear, and let us know how they're treating you.
Very uncool... :( I'm sorry that happened to your friend.
 

ghost19

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I'm a bit ignorant on U.S law, but isn't this an actual abduction? He put hands on him, he took his phone and drove him somewhere that he didn't want to be... all of this was against Cody's wishes. How far can the law go with this? Can they arrest, based on this?
Depends on what state. If you go with someone willingly, hard to prove kidnapping/abduction unless said person has a gun, knife, some sort of weapon on you. It definitely fits the parameters for harassment, at least here where I reside. Lesser charge, but definitely do-able in this case. Never get into a vehicle with someone who is trying to abduct you. Yell, scream, kick, claw, whatever. In these kind of cases, you have a much, much better chance of said person getting cold feet and taking off if you're yelling and screaming. Once you're in the vehicle? The chances start declining by the hour of you ever being seen alive again. Good to hear you're OK sir, watch your six. I'm curious, did he say anything to you on the way back to your car? What was his demeanor like?
 

FlakeNoir

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Depends on what state. If you go with someone willingly, hard to prove kidnapping/abduction unless said person has a gun, knife, some sort of weapon on you. It definitely fits the parameters for harassment, at least here where I reside. Lesser charge, but definitely do-able in this case. Never get into a vehicle with someone who is trying to abduct you. Yell, scream, kick, claw, whatever. In these kind of cases, you have a much, much better chance of said person getting cold feet and taking off if you're yelling and screaming. Once you're in the vehicle? The chances start declining by the hour of you ever being seen alive again. Good to hear you're OK sir, watch your six. I'm curious, did he say anything to you on the way back to your car? What was his demeanor like?
Thanks for the info' Ghost.

This is so hard, I can just imagine the situation whereby your first reaction is not to yell and scream, because we're brought up to be good and compliant with people--even strangers.. so I can understand Cody's predicament, also I know what cancer and cancer treatment drugs... and the fatigue does to a person, so even having your head together on a normal day, is a big ask.

But I think with all of the wonderful advice from everyone, Cody will be much better protected... and especially if this creep comes around again, he'll be ready for that.

I wish there was something to be done about this guy though, because he's probably just going to do it to someone else now, too.
 

ghost19

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Thanks for the info' Ghost.

This is so hard, I can just imagine the situation whereby your first reaction is not to yell and scream, because we're brought up to be good and compliant with people--even strangers.. so I can understand Cody's predicament, also I know what cancer and cancer treatment drugs... and the fatigue does to a person, so even having your head together on a normal day, is a big ask.

But I think with all of the wonderful advice from everyone, Cody will be much better protected... and especially if this creep comes around again, he'll be ready for that.

I wish there was something to be done about this guy though, because he's probably just going to do it to someone else now, too.
Definitely, that is just a creepy thing to happen to someone. Glad he's ok.

We had a case one time where a girl got off work very late at a fast food restaurant, walked out to her car, there's a dude crouched down behind the vehicle, comes up behind her when she opens her door, tells her he has a gun. She happened to have some kind of drink in her hand, threw it into his face without even thinking she said later. That extra 2 seconds that he paused to consider what had just happened to him she used to dive into her car and lock the door. He tried to smash the window but she didn't wait, started her car and drove up to the front of the restaurant where her co-workers were still working. The dude took off on foot but was caught later on that night. Could have ended badly for her.

Another weird story without a happy ending. A young lady walked out to her car late one night, she worked at a local department store. She had a personalized front license plate that had her name on it, we'll call her "Katie". Katie is walking up to her car when a guy walks over to her with a big smile on his face, "Hey Katie, how you doing? I haven't seen you in years." Instead of continuing to unlock her car, Katie being a nice person stops, says hi to the guy and tries to figure out who he is. She actually takes a step away from her vehicle which is what this creep was waiting for. He punches her in the mouth, knocking her out cold. You can imagine the rest. She's alive but that critical few seconds is all some scumbag needed to take advantage of someone's curiosity and kindness. Watch your six ladies and gentlemen, always be aware of your surroundings. Stay safe.
 

Dana Jean

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Definitely, that is just a creepy thing to happen to someone. Glad he's ok.

We had a case one time where a girl got off work very late at a fast food restaurant, walked out to her car, there's a dude crouched down behind the vehicle, comes up behind her when she opens her door, tells her he has a gun. She happened to have some kind of drink in her hand, threw it into his face without even thinking she said later. That extra 2 seconds that he paused to consider what had just happened to him she used to dive into her car and lock the door. He tried to smash the window but she didn't wait, started her car and drove up to the front of the restaurant where her co-workers were still working. The dude took off on foot but was caught later on that night. Could have ended badly for her.

Another weird story without a happy ending. A young lady walked out to her car late one night, she worked at a local department store. She had a personalized front license plate that had her name on it, we'll call her "Katie". Katie is walking up to her car when a guy walks over to her with a big smile on his face, "Hey Katie, how you doing? I haven't seen you in years." Instead of continuing to unlock her car, Katie being a nice person stops, says hi to the guy and tries to figure out who he is. She actually takes a step away from her vehicle which is what this creep was waiting for. He punches her in the mouth, knocking her out cold. You can imagine the rest. She's alive but that critical few seconds is all some scumbag needed to take advantage of someone's curiosity and kindness. Watch your six ladies and gentlemen, always be aware of your surroundings. Stay safe.
And read Gavin deBecker's book, Gift of Fear.
 

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A guy added me on Facebook. 20 or 21 years old. I thought he looked familiar and he messaged me and started talking. I knew him because he works at the local CFA and went to a church I visited a few times with friends. We started texting and he would ask me over and over when we were gonna hang out. I always had stuff going on. Every day he'd ask like 6 times. He was like "you're so cute! Let's hang" etc. I got bad vibes from him. Super pushy. He texted me at 5:30 this evening and said "I'm here at your work in the parking lot." And I said "what? Why? How did you even know where I work?" And he said "I wanna see you." So I said "Leave. Right now. I don't wanna see you." And I went out to the parking lot and he was there in his car. Tried getting in my car and he grabbed me and was like "let's go to the park!!! :)" and I said "let go of me," and he pulled me into his car. (I have meds I'm supposed to take at 6 to help me with feeling so exhausted, but they were in my car and I had no way of getting them). I tried texting my mom but he grabbed my phone. We went to the park and some of his friends were there and I tried making the best of it. I didn't know what would happen if I didn't. So.... I was there for like an hour and they were doing a bible study, of all things. I eventually said if he ever wants to meet me again he was to take me to my car right then. He did, and now here I am at home. This is 100% true. Nothing made up. I can barely believe it myself........ But it happened.

He told me he just wanted to meet me because he liked what I posted on FB, and he'd been reading my blog and also followed my Instagram. He said he was a "fan" of me and was so desperate to meet me.

Let this be a word of warning-- be wary of what you post on social media. Always. Be wary of who follows you.

Sorry if this isn't very coherent or well-written, just very shaken up.


Listen to Uncle Muskie, bub. A lot of cats here would probably tell you what I'm about to say is wrong, and hell, it is, kinda. But put in certain situations, a fella has no other recourse but to get mean. Don't be letting some church creep take you places you don't wanna go. You think some weirdo is gonna yank ol Muskie into his frickin car? Meds or no meds, that's nose punchin time. Violence is never the answer? Depends on the 'question', I'd wot. If the question is whether or not I'm gonna wind rotting in some psycho's crawlspace, then the answer is eye-gouging, head bashing, nose breaking wild dog. Grrr.

Sorry, but this kinda junk gets my feathers ruffled. Im just thinkin what I'D do in such a situation. Maybe I'll get overpowered and killed. I mean, I'm no big bruiser, but doggone, I'll get mean when I need to, and I'll take a piece of the coont with me. Be careful out there, man.