Ray Rice Cut By Ravens - Domestic Violence.

  • This message board permanently closed on June 30th, 2020 at 4PM EDT and is no longer accepting new members.

Neesy

#1 fan (Annie Wilkes cousin) 1st cousin Mom's side
May 24, 2012
61,289
239,271
Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada
May all be well or on the mend.

After the video was released.

WARNING! Extremely disturbing!!!!!


Did the NFL have this video when they gave him the two game suspension? (Why not? If TMZ can get the video why not the NFL?)

Domestic violence is a huge problem. Maybe this will throw some light on this issue.

Thoughts, please.

Peace.
1709508-1_62_scooby_doo.jpg


Ray Rice Rut Ry Ravens? ruh roh
 

Lepplady

Chillin' since 2006
Nov 30, 2006
12,498
65,639
Red Stick
The NFL has a long and varied history of helping players cover up crimes. There are millions of dollars involved. So I'm glad to see that not only the team, but the entire franchise is beginning to address these sorts of issues instead of sweeping them under the rug. It might be because the video went public and there was nowhere to hide from it, and had no choice, but I hope it's just a start in a positive direction.
 

FlakeNoir

Original Kiwi© SKMB®
Moderator
Apr 11, 2006
44,082
175,641
New Zealand
As for this Rice couple, her smacking him, whether he provoked her or not, was wrong. But in no way, shape, or form, do I think she deserved being knocked out. She did NOT deserve to get hit.

But then she married him. So when he does it again....
People don't always have a choice, it's never as easy/straight forward as it seems to be.
 

Sigmund

Waiting in Uber.
Jan 3, 2010
13,979
44,046
In your mirror.
People don't always have a choice, it's never as easy/straight forward as it seems to be.

Yes, Ma'am.

There are many, many things to consider. ( A virtual gamut.)

She loves this man and they have a baby daughter. And I'm sure she hopes things will change for the better. (Love and hope are strong emotions. Difficult to let them go.)

Peace.
 

Lepplady

Chillin' since 2006
Nov 30, 2006
12,498
65,639
Red Stick
Wait. She MARRIED him? After he cold-cocked her? And had a baby with him?
I'm sorry but I have to say it. That's not love and hope. That's stupidity. The first time he put his hands on her, that's on him. Every/any subsequent time, that's on her. You can't hit somebody who's not there.
 

Sigmund

Waiting in Uber.
Jan 3, 2010
13,979
44,046
In your mirror.
That can only happen if she's still with him. If she's got any sense, she's far away, well-hidden and seeking damages.

No, Ma'am.

If I understand it correctly, they are living together with their child.

After this new revelation, the video and being suspended from the NFL, I fear things will be even worse. I hope there will not be a tragedy.

Peace.
 

Lepplady

Chillin' since 2006
Nov 30, 2006
12,498
65,639
Red Stick
That kid's going to see this video someday. How will mom explain that? Dad's got no excuses, but mom might have to answer a few questions about why she'd stay with a guy that beat her.
I know, I know. Battered woman syndrome and all that. It takes time and courage to get out. I just hope she puts it together and gets away from him before somebody ends up dead.
 

Sigmund

Waiting in Uber.
Jan 3, 2010
13,979
44,046
In your mirror.
And fear.

Yes!!!! FEAR.

The abuser usually will say "If you ever try to leave me, I will find you and kill you!".

(I'm going to post something I might have posted before.
In my postgraduate program we had an Ethics class. According to the textbook and our professor, a counselor has the ETHICAL DUTY to advise people who are victims of domestic violence (DV) that their life is in danger and *strongly* advise they leave. I had a HUGE problem with this. Next day in class, I approached the professor and asked him about the ViCAP report on domestic abuse. According to ViCap, DV victims are more likely to be murdered by their attacker when they flee or attempt to flee.
So, If I'm ethically bound to advise DV clients to leave their abuser...am I not also ethically bound to tell them about the threat ? He took note about my question/concern but he never got back to me. Bummer.)

Peace.
 

Dana Jean

Dirty Pirate Hooker, The Return
Moderator
Apr 11, 2006
53,634
236,697
The High Seas
Yes!!!! FEAR.

The abuser usually will say "If you ever try to leave me, I will find you and kill you!".

(I'm going to post something I might have posted before.
In my postgraduate program we had an Ethics class. According to the textbook and our professor, a counselor has the ETHICAL DUTY to advise people who are victims of domestic violence (DV) that their life is in danger and *strongly* advise they leave. I had a HUGE problem with this. Next day in class, I approached the professor and asked him about the ViCAP report on domestic abuse. According to ViCap, DV victims are more likely to be murdered by their attacker when they flee or attempt to flee.
So, If I'm ethically bound to advise DV clients to leave their abuser...am I not also ethically bound to tell them about the threat ? He took note about my question/concern but he never got back to me. Bummer.)

Peace.
Yes, I have heard that the most dangerous time for someone being abused is when they try to leave. Very dangerous.
 

Scratch

In the flesh.
Sep 1, 2014
829
4,475
62
A guy I had been friends with since boyscouts went ballistic when his wife (my cousin) finally left him. It was always true that they were a volitile mix but when it really was over he pulled out the super crazy. Once when I stepped between them he pulled a knife on me and I had to talk him out of using it. I can't say she didn't goad him but I think I understand why. She refused to be beat down into meekness (that may explain Rices wifes actions). The breakup really is the most dangerous time. The woman is so inured to violence sometimes that she resignes herself to whatever happens and nobody can be there to protect them all the time. Some may not think it right but I gave her a gun. She is now married to a great guy but it was touch and go for quite a while and it ruined a twenty year friendship with her ex and me.

I'm that sort who won't hit a woman back and I think that is the correct approach. If she was abused in her previous relationship then the only thing that works is to not hit back. Don't even hold them down to show you could overpower them. It works... after a time. OOOOOoooOOo you get a busted lip or black eye. So? Hell, you are a man and had worse. I guess I just don't understand the guys who complain because love will conquer in that situation. I know. The other way around it won't. Any guy who will hit a woman will get worse over time. I don't know, maybe if the guy is Barney Fife and the woman tosses kaybers at Celtic fest.

I won't be surprised to hear Rice has killed her sometime in the future.
 

Out of Order

Sign of the Times
Feb 9, 2011
29,007
162,154
New Hampster
Heard on the news this morning that TMZ (the folks with the video) are saying that this video was available for all parties to watch since the assault. How does Rice not get thrown in jail first of all? And how does the NFL give him a meager two game suspension and not suspend him indefinitely right off the bat? You can't tell me they didn't see it and it is damn "funny" that they only suspended him after the video went viral. The NFL has some major explaining to do. As do the legal authorities who it is said had access to the video as well.
 

fljoe0

Cantre Member
Apr 5, 2008
15,859
71,642
62
120 miles S of the Pancake/Waffle line
...he deserves all he's gotten-plus should have been locked up on a felony, regardless of whether she dropped the charges...the Cult of Celebrity does not imply a free pass on brutality...

The fact that the DA had a video of the incident really makes me wonder why a felony battery charge was not filed.
 

Moderator

Ms. Mod
Administrator
Jul 10, 2006
52,243
157,324
Maine
Wait. She MARRIED him? After he cold-cocked her? And had a baby with him?
I'm sorry but I have to say it. That's not love and hope. That's stupidity. The first time he put his hands on her, that's on him. Every/any subsequent time, that's on her. You can't hit somebody who's not there.
No, Ma'am.

If I understand it correctly, they are living together with their child.

After this new revelation, the video and being suspended from the NFL, I fear things will be even worse. I hope there will not be a tragedy.

Peace.
They were married on March 31st of this year, the day after he was indicted by a grand jury. According to the report I found, they'd had the wedding planned for a couple weeks. As his wife, she could claim spousal privilege and not have to testify against him.