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Doc Creed

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It was a freaking tiger!! I loved that Carol was not able to fool the king..However, where does this leav Carol?
I enjoyed the lighter tone and laugh out loud moments with Carol, too. I don't read the comics but
I figured out his backstory on my own before it was revealed (at least the initial things he divulged to Carol). I'm anxious to get back to the group, though. It appears next episode is going to be a Darryl episode. I wonder if Dwight is going to end up redeeming himself and helping Darryl?
 

mjs9153

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I enjoyed the lighter tone and laugh out loud moments with Carol, too. I don't read the comics but
I figured out his backstory on my own before it was revealed (at least the initial things he divulged to Carol). I'm anxious to get back to the group, though. It appears next episode is going to be a Darryl episode. I wonder if Dwight is going to end up redeeming himself and helping Darryl?
 

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There were a lot of people dressed as Negan for Halloween.

Sure they weren't just bikers? :D

Re: the last ep
Apart from what was quite possibly some of the worst (but probably still expensive) CGI I've seen since the mid-90s, especially when it's possible to work with trained tigers or do a double shoot then overlay (or whatever the technical terms are) like in the old days, I quite liked this one. Why you wouldn't get Morgan to teach everyone aikido is a bit beyond me, but never mind. The bit I liked best was when Carol started doing her bright-eyed 'Oh my!' routine again then immediately went straight to 'You're ****ting me, right?' - although I said at the time that Ezekiel didn't seem to be going for it. Turned out he did, or so he said, but...nah, she kind of overplayed the Suzie Homemaker thing. Someone like that would never have survived for so long if it were genuine.
If there's a gripe it's that the producers have shown their hand too early in the season. It's pretty clear that, at some point, Hilltop, The Kingdom and Alexandria (and maybe others) are going to group together to match Negan's numbers. It'll clear the decks but in another way it'll be another 'Here's a Big Bad! Bigger and Badder than anything else! Oh, hang on...yeah, done by season's end. Not so tough after all', and tbh that gets a bit tiring, not to mention limiting, as I said or at least hinted at before.
 

DiO'Bolic

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Odd...

TWD didn’t follow up with the Whack-a-Glenn trauma to the group, or the non-hero sendoff letdown of Abraham. And a likable new character (the show jumped the shark tiger with that one) that is not part of Rick’s group... when does that ever happen?
 

mjs9153

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Odd...

TWD didn’t follow up with the Whack-a-Glenn trauma to the group, or the non-hero sendoff letdown of Abraham. And a likable new character (the show jumped the shark tiger with that one) that is not part of Rick’s group... when does that ever happen?
whack a glenn..haha,I had to laugh at that.. ;)
 

skimom2

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Sure they weren't just bikers? :D

Re: the last ep
Apart from what was quite possibly some of the worst (but probably still expensive) CGI I've seen since the mid-90s, especially when it's possible to work with trained tigers or do a double shoot then overlay (or whatever the technical terms are) like in the old days, I quite liked this one. Why you wouldn't get Morgan to teach everyone aikido is a bit beyond me, but never mind. The bit I liked best was when Carol started doing her bright-eyed 'Oh my!' routine again then immediately went straight to 'You're ****ting me, right?' - although I said at the time that Ezekiel didn't seem to be going for it. Turned out he did, or so he said, but...nah, she kind of overplayed the Suzie Homemaker thing. Someone like that would never have survived for so long if it were genuine.
If there's a gripe it's that the producers have shown their hand too early in the season. It's pretty clear that, at some point, Hilltop, The Kingdom and Alexandria (and maybe others) are going to group together to match Negan's numbers. It'll clear the decks but in another way it'll be another 'Here's a Big Bad! Bigger and Badder than anything else! Oh, hang on...yeah, done by season's end. Not so tough after all', and tbh that gets a bit tiring, not to mention limiting, as I said or at least hinted at before.

YES! I'm tired of Carol. NO ONE would buy that, especially with her claiming to have been living rough ("We've been eating possum!" or whatever stupid thing she said). Let her die if she wants to so badly.

Daryl is the same. He's long outlived his usefulness/story arc. The only thing left for him to do, as they 'redeemed' his character already, is to go bad/join the Saviours, then go 'good ' again with a grand gesture before he dies. Bah. Not worth the work and trouble. Kill him, too.

Not sure if they're going to follow the comic arc, but I can see this arc lasting at least 2 seasons. The next 'baddies' are a different kind of scary than Negan--not sure how they'll go over on TV, but the writers DID lay the groundwork for them in the third season, in the episode "Clear" (the Morgan episode).
 

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YES! I'm tired of Carol. NO ONE would buy that, especially with her claiming to have been living rough ("We've been eating possum!" or whatever stupid thing she said). Let her die if she wants to so badly.

Daryl is the same. He's long outlived his usefulness/story arc. The only thing left for him to do, as they 'redeemed' his character already, is to go bad/join the Saviours, then go 'good ' again with a grand gesture before he dies. Bah. Not worth the work and trouble. Kill him, too.

Not sure if they're going to follow the comic arc, but I can see this arc lasting at least 2 seasons. The next 'baddies' are a different kind of scary than Negan--not sure how they'll go over on TV, but the writers DID lay the groundwork for them in the third season, in the episode "Clear" (the Morgan episode).

Re: Daryl
I've not said so here before, but I had the thought that the obvious thing to do would be to have Rick and the gang decide to try to rescue Daryl, actually find a way into Negan's compound - wherever it is - and then find that Daryl's actually joined up and become a Saviour. It'd mean the writers get to kick the 'What about Daryl?' can down the road - though I wouldn't really expect him to be bluffing it or 'go good' again - and potentially off another series regular, perhaps even by having Daryl do the deed (Negan handing over Lucille and telling him to make his own choice). If it was handled a certain way, DD could even decide the proper price would be for Rick to lose a hand instead...or into the bargain.
Either way it'd make him unredeemable, and then a fitting end could come via Michonne's sword. Anything else probably wouldn't do justice to how key the character once was, and having him flip jackets back to 'good' would just be tiresome...unless it was made very clear that he was actually Negan's spy in the camp, with the proper price to pay for that once he was rumbled.

As for Carol, they've done what I hope they wouldn't and flipped her too far the other way now. She was one of the better, more interesting characters but they're losing that (and wasting Melissa McBride in the process). But then they're wasting other people, too: Lennie James, for one. You still get the feeling that there's more to Morgan than they've allowed us to see, but what it is and how it can be brought out now, I don't know. He'll probably end up being killed off instead. And I think they've completely forgotten about Gabriel.
 

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YES! I'm tired of Carol. NO ONE would buy that, especially with her claiming to have been living rough ("We've been eating possum!" or whatever stupid thing she said). Let her die if she wants to so badly.

Daryl is the same. He's long outlived his usefulness/story arc. The only thing left for him to do, as they 'redeemed' his character already, is to go bad/join the Saviours, then go 'good ' again with a grand gesture before he dies. Bah. Not worth the work and trouble. Kill him, too.

Not sure if they're going to follow the comic arc, but I can see this arc lasting at least 2 seasons. The next 'baddies' are a different kind of scary than Negan--not sure how they'll go over on TV, but the writers DID lay the groundwork for them in the third season, in the episode "Clear" (the Morgan episode).
Agree,
Daryl can just go and I've been ready for it for a number of years. I still think Carol is the most interesting character, until this season. I'm not liking the direction her character is taking in these first couple episodes. Haven't we been through crisis of character with her before, yawn.
And as someone mention above, they have jumped the shark with this tiger sh*t. Do I understand what Ezek is doing for these people? sure. What he is trying to be for these people? yes. But not easily on board just yet.

I did like the fact that they were feeding the pigs walker meat. What will be the outcome of doing that? Will that group of people get sick and die? Some walker disease? Or perhaps immunity to bites because they eat it? I'm curious about that.
 

mjs9153

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Agree,
Daryl can just go and I've been ready for it for a number of years. I still think Carol is the most interesting character, until this season. I'm not liking the direction her character is taking in these first couple episodes. Haven't we been through crisis of character with her before, yawn.
And as someone mention above, they have jumped the shark with this tiger sh*t. Do I understand what Ezek is doing for these people? sure. What he is trying to be for these people? yes. But not easily on board just yet.

I did like the fact that they were feeding the pigs walker meat. What will be the outcome of doing that? Will that group of people get sick and die? Some walker disease? Or perhaps immunity to bites because they eat it? I'm curious about that.
If I recall correctly from the episode where they went to the CDC center in Atlanta,
the doc there told Rick they were all already infected,that is,as carriers at least..and who knows,maybe that dead infection can suddenly pop up as being live and kill everyone left..you never know with infectious diseases..
 
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If I recall correctly from the episode where they went to the CDC center
in Atlanta,the doc there told Rick they were all already infected,that is,as carriers at least..and who knows,maybe that dead infection can suddenly pop up as being live and kill everyone left..you never know with infectious diseases.
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Yes, he did, so maybe
actually eating the meat, that might mutate something already inside to have an "active infection."
 

mjs9153

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Yes, he did, so maybe
actually eating the meat, that might mutate something already inside to have an "active infection."
It is so odd to think of a
a hog eating meat,but I guess they do,as an omnivore..one other that I read once,is that hippos in Africa may actually eat meat too,you tend to think of them as purely veggie eaters,but I guess there have been documented cases of them eating meat..I also know of at least one case,where an elephant ate it's handler..she came up missing,and they found pieces of her clothing and jewelry later in the elephant's dung..