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The horn of Eld (Spoiler Alert)

Discussion in 'The Dark Tower VII: The Dark Tower' started by Jon Prior, Mar 17, 2014.

  1. Moderator

    Moderator Ms. Mod Administrator

    Welcome to the Board!
     
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  2. Spideyman

    Spideyman Uber Member

    Hi and welcome.
     
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  3. Slevin

    Slevin New Member

    Thank You! :)
     
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  4. GNTLGNT

    GNTLGNT The idiot is IN

    ....Hiya Seveneleven!!!!......:D
     
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  5. Auryn

    Auryn New Member

    Hi guys, i'm new here and just started re-reading the series. I am interested in interpretations of the ending of the DT and the significance of the Horn of Eld. You've all provided a lot of interesting insights and i'd like to add my two cents.

    I think that Roland is supposed to blow the horn at the tower. He is meant to do this.

    The reason is found in Robert Browning's “Childe Roland to the Dark Tower Came” which was King's inspiration for the series. In this poem, Roland blows his 'slug-horn' after acknowledging his lost peers (see below). In The Dark Tower, SK's Roland hears a horn after acknowledging his lost friends...but I think that's a missed cue, a missed line in our hero's quest. I think HE is supposed to blow the horn just like his counterpart in the poem:

    I think the horn is a puzzle piece that is missing from the scene--the other part of our hero's excalibur along with his guns. In the last chapter, the Dark Tower compels and calls Roland to come to it, and not Roland specifically--it calls the entire line of Eld of which he is the last. That horn was passed down from Arthur Eld and fits the scene.

    See this foreshadowing quote from The Gunslinger:
    As for what it will do when he blows it at the tower? Who knows, maybe it would help him defeat the Crimson King without the aid of Patrick's drawing. At the tower, Roland doesn't use Patrick's gift right away because of pride and 'he had wanted to kill the Crimson King, not merely send him into some null zone' which in the end is what he does. Maybe the horn does finally help Roland kill the Crimson King, perhaps Roland has done his penance and earned this final weapon in the next round which is why the book ends this way.

    As for liking or not liking the ending or the last few books or wishing they were written some other way, I think those are futile thoughts. Mr. King wrote the books and they are written. They are complete. It always sounds funny to me when readers criticize the way a book ended, it's like they are saying they wish the sky was a different color or the earth was a different shape.
     
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  6. Tery

    Tery I want to look at life In the available light Moderator

    Welcome to the MB Auryn :)

    That's great insight. I agree with you, too. I'm sure many others will also chime in.
     
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  7. GNTLGNT

    GNTLGNT The idiot is IN

    ...Hi Auryn...
     
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  8. Spideyman

    Spideyman Uber Member

    Hi and welcome Auryn
     
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  9. Nickj85

    Nickj85 New Member

    In the first book he is on the road alone. Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't remember many mentions of his old "happy" life in the Gunslinger. The tower is his only draw. There is no way he could have let Jake go so easily later in the series. He grows to love again, even in the end he wont force Patrick to grab a rose. He finishes with great regret.. I felt he didn't even want to see the top of the tower. However since Ka is what it is perhaps the horn will let him do it again "the right way".
    Apologize for obvious grammar mistakes.
     
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  10. FlakeNoir

    FlakeNoir Beta Tester Moderator

    Welcome to the site Nickj85. :smile:
     
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  11. GNTLGNT

    GNTLGNT The idiot is IN

    ....what she said!.....
     
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  12. Spideyman

    Spideyman Uber Member

    Hi and welcome.
     
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  13. metallicalex777

    metallicalex777 New Member

    New to the forums here! Found this place via Google search and seemed to be a great corralling of shared likes/dislikes/theories of the Horn of Eld and a few other things. I've read through the series three times, and have done audiobook a full run through once. I'm on the second time through the audiobook and about half way through Drawing of the Three.

    Regarding the Horn of Eld. I've come to the conclusion that anyone that blows the Horn of Eld out of a call for reinforcements simply dies.

    "The Song of Roland" - French Poem that Stephen King has some inspiration from: There is a battle in the poem that shows some similarities to the battle we read/hear about with the Battle of Jericho Hill. In the poem, Roalnd dies when he calls for more reinforcements, from the struggle/effort/hard work of blowing the Horn of Eld.

    Cuthbert Allgood: Died at the top of Jericho Hill, blowing the Horn of Eld.

    Roland Deschain: We know at the end of the book that he wakes up in a fog of confusion (I take that as his memory being stripped away after running through the tower). Knowing that the movie is coming out next week, and we know the Horn of Eld has been seen in screenshots from the movie sets (if any of you have chosen to go down that path) as well as Stephen King tweeting a picture of the Horn of Eld, leads me to believe that through the movies we may actually see Roland Deschain DIE once he reaches the tower and blows the Horn of Eld once he reaches it.

    Historically, I am most likely WRONG as hell but thought it was a neat tid-bit comparing the poem, Cuthbert, and knowledge of Roland in the coming movie all having their hands (and fate) on the Horn of Eld.
     
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  14. GNTLGNT

    GNTLGNT The idiot is IN

    ...glad you've joined us, and that is intriguing.......me?.....I just didn't delve that deep into that portion of the cosmology of King's Universe.....just liked the fact that old long, tall and ugly had another "shot" at it.....
     
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  15. Tiny

    Tiny RECEIVED:Annoying Questions award

    after the battle of Jericho hill or whatever, Roland had a DUTY to pick up the horn and save it,
    he neglected this duty,
    it wasn't that the horn is some kind of "tailsmen" IMO.
    it simply represents one of his very few failures in his duty AS A GUNSLINGER
     
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  16. metallicalex777

    metallicalex777 New Member

    Thank you! Long days and pleasant nights, unless you prefer to chew on that devil grass and hang around the bars of Tull to pass your time.
     
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  17. Dana Jean

    Dana Jean Dirty Pirate Hooker Moderator

    welcome Met!
     
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  18. metallicalex777

    metallicalex777 New Member

    Much appreciated!
     
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  19. GNTLGNT

    GNTLGNT The idiot is IN

    ....I will avoid Tull, unless I get a quick drink and move on....local legend has it that there is a Gunslinger that deals in lead.....
     
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  20. L13 Fanboy

    L13 Fanboy New Member

    Finished the Dark Tower today, first time poster, etc, etc :0:

    I enjoyed the ending, if for no other reason than I get to come online and read everyone else's thoughts/theories! I have nothing else to add to the countless ideas except which one I believe: as an eternal optimist I like to think that armed with Arthur Eld's horn this will be Roland's last journey to the Tower, where he will finally ends his quest and find peace/redemption/release. The main thing I thought upon finishing was how King eluded so many times to the struggles and challenges of being a writer, indeed he even tells you at the end that the story is in the journey, and he only puts an ending into his tales as that is the custom... only this time he doesn't! At the end of Volume 7 we are sent straight back to the beginning of Volume 1. The story is the thousands of pages of the journey, not the ending.

    Now if you'll excuse me I'm headed over to the thread that recommends which novels to read next! Long days and pleasant nights.
     

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